49ERS vs COWBOYS Pregame Thread - 2023 Season Week 5 | Page 45

Oct 7, 2023 at 4:12 PM

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Originally posted by tankle104:
Can't wait for tomorrow night! Brock is gonna choke slam the cowboys D! It's going to be an awesome game.

i feel like the defense isn't happy with their performance and is eager to have a statement game, on prime time. It's going to be awesome.

brock is also eager to show the cowboys that he's better than last time they saw him and to make a statement on prime time. It's going to be epic.

jerry and dak crying after the game. McCarthy with that scared of look of "am I gonna get fired?". Majestic

Their O line was good when healthy how long ago? Tyron Smith and Zack Martin are both over 32 both have been dinged up this year. Smith only played 4 games last year. Maybe they were saving themselves due for this match up, but maybe this could be their last battle.

[ Edited by mitpdub on Oct 7, 2023 at 4:12 PM ]

Oct 7, 2023 at 4:23 PM

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Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Can't wait for tomorrow night! Brock is gonna choke slam the cowboys D! It's going to be an awesome game.

i feel like the defense isn't happy with their performance and is eager to have a statement game, on prime time. It's going to be awesome.

brock is also eager to show the cowboys that he's better than last time they saw him and to make a statement on prime time. It's going to be epic.

jerry and dak crying after the game. McCarthy with that scared of look of "am I gonna get fired?". Majestic

Their O line was good when healthy how long ago? Tyron Smith and Zack Martin are both over 32 both have been dinged up this year. Smith only played 4 games last year. Maybe they were saving themselves due for this match up, but maybe this could be their last battle.

I think Martin is still good but he is banged up. I feel like smith hasn't been himself in a long time, he's had a ton of injuries. They've invested some higher round picks in the o line but fortunately hasn't really panned out.

they way over drafted an o line man a year or two ago. He wasn't expected to go in the first or nearly that high, something like that.

Oct 7, 2023 at 4:41 PM

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Just ran into Frank Gore and Shanahan, both very nice
Go Niners

Oct 7, 2023 at 4:45 PM

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Last years playoff game is on NFL network now. Brock is much better now and Kyle was very conservative in the 4th quarter with his rookie QB.

Other things that stood out : Goulds easy fgs, Lenoir giving up over 100yrds to Lamb, Ebukam being relentless opposite Bosa, CMC hurt with his calf, but most glaring is Dak looked bad in the 4th. Bad passes and near picks.

[ Edited by mitpdub on Oct 7, 2023 at 4:45 PM ]

Oct 7, 2023 at 4:47 PM

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Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
Just ran into Frank Gore and Shanahan, both very nice
Go Niners

Did you excuse yourself? Probably not a good idea to injure coach before the big game

Oct 7, 2023 at 4:51 PM

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Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by dj43:
It's in the trenches. It's always in the trenches!

Dallas is going to challenge the middle of the Niner run D with the best pair of run-blocking Guards (Tyler Smith #1 and Zach Martin #4) in the league, and a Center that is roughly the equivalent of Brendel when he was playing well last season. Hargrave, AA, and Kinlaw will be tested big time. They should hold up but it will be a 60-minute battle worth watching.

Likewise, on defense, Dallas brings the best pair of pass-rushing EDs in the league, Lawrence and Parsons. Hankins is enough of a load inside to keep double-teams off the EDs. Banks, Burford, and Brendel will have their hands full protecting their own turf to help outside. None of those three are above "replacement" grade when it comes to pass blocking. McKivitz will need help from TEs which will take away one potential quick outlet pass for Purdy.

In the end, Dallas has an edge in the trenches on both sides of the ball. Kyle and Wilks will have to use scheme to counter.

They had those "advantages" the last 2 years as well. The Dallas OL has been elite for a while. Strange they haven't done much....almost as if the QB is more important....

LOL. Dallas' OL hasn't been elite in ages. And the greatest OL in history can't do anything for Dak's psyche in big games. It's 'almost' like you need both.

Oct 7, 2023 at 4:52 PM

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Originally posted by mitpdub:
Last years playoff game is on NFL network now. Brock is much better now and Kyle was very conservative in the 4th quarter with his rookie QB.

Other things that stood out : Goulds easy fgs, Lenoir giving up over 100yrds to Lamb, Ebukam being relentless opposite Bosa, CMC hurt with his calf, but most glaring is Dak looked bad in the 4th. Bad passes and near picks.

45% pressure rate. We struggled to run too IIRC...which lead to the pressure rate (more predictable). Is that right?

Oct 7, 2023 at 4:56 PM

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Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by mitpdub:
Last years playoff game is on NFL network now. Brock is much better now and Kyle was very conservative in the 4th quarter with his rookie QB.

Other things that stood out : Goulds easy fgs, Lenoir giving up over 100yrds to Lamb, Ebukam being relentless opposite Bosa, CMC hurt with his calf, but most glaring is Dak looked bad in the 4th. Bad passes and near picks.

45% pressure rate. We struggled to run too IIRC...which lead to the pressure rate (more predictable). Is that right?

AAs crappy tackle at the end missed an easy safety. Dre dropped an int and Eli should have kneeled. All these errors that helped the Cowboys sustain this game. I'm hoping we have a better killer instinct.

Oct 7, 2023 at 5:11 PM

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Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by dj43:
It's in the trenches. It's always in the trenches!

Dallas is going to challenge the middle of the Niner run D with the best pair of run-blocking Guards (Tyler Smith #1 and Zach Martin #4) in the league, and a Center that is roughly the equivalent of Brendel when he was playing well last season. Hargrave, AA, and Kinlaw will be tested big time. They should hold up but it will be a 60-minute battle worth watching.

Likewise, on defense, Dallas brings the best pair of pass-rushing EDs in the league, Lawrence and Parsons. Hankins is enough of a load inside to keep double-teams off the EDs. Banks, Burford, and Brendel will have their hands full protecting their own turf to help outside. None of those three are above "replacement" grade when it comes to pass blocking. McKivitz will need help from TEs which will take away one potential quick outlet pass for Purdy.

In the end, Dallas has an edge in the trenches on both sides of the ball. Kyle and Wilks will have to use scheme to counter.

They had those "advantages" the last 2 years as well. The Dallas OL has been elite for a while. Strange they haven't done much....almost as if the QB is more important....

One more vote for Mr. Relevant MVP.

Oct 7, 2023 at 5:14 PM

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Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by mitpdub:
Last years playoff game is on NFL network now. Brock is much better now and Kyle was very conservative in the 4th quarter with his rookie QB.

Other things that stood out : Goulds easy fgs, Lenoir giving up over 100yrds to Lamb, Ebukam being relentless opposite Bosa, CMC hurt with his calf, but most glaring is Dak looked bad in the 4th. Bad passes and near picks.

45% pressure rate. We struggled to run too IIRC...which lead to the pressure rate (more predictable). Is that right?

AAs crappy tackle at the end missed an easy safety. Dre dropped an int and Eli should have kneeled. All these errors that helped the Cowboys sustain this game. I'm hoping we have a better killer instinct.

Oh yeah!

Oct 7, 2023 at 5:17 PM

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It's Game Day Eve!!!

I celebrated by buying a 9ers jacket for the cooler months lol.

The hoodie I had, got all messed up in the wash, so I needed some kind of replacement lol.

Oct 7, 2023 at 5:30 PM

#672

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Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by dj43:
It's in the trenches. It's always in the trenches!

Dallas is going to challenge the middle of the Niner run D with the best pair of run-blocking Guards (Tyler Smith #1 and Zach Martin #4) in the league, and a Center that is roughly the equivalent of Brendel when he was playing well last season. Hargrave, AA, and Kinlaw will be tested big time. They should hold up but it will be a 60-minute battle worth watching.

Likewise, on defense, Dallas brings the best pair of pass-rushing EDs in the league, Lawrence and Parsons. Hankins is enough of a load inside to keep double-teams off the EDs. Banks, Burford, and Brendel will have their hands full protecting their own turf to help outside. None of those three are above "replacement" grade when it comes to pass blocking. McKivitz will need help from TEs which will take away one potential quick outlet pass for Purdy.

In the end, Dallas has an edge in the trenches on both sides of the ball. Kyle and Wilks will have to use scheme to counter.

They had those "advantages" the last 2 years as well. The Dallas OL has been elite for a while. Strange they haven't done much....almost as if the QB is more important....

LOL. Dallas' OL hasn't been elite in ages. And the greatest OL in history can't do anything for Dak's psyche in big games. It's 'almost' like you need both.

Ok. I thought OL is so important that everything else doesn't matter. Whichever team that have the best OL wins the Superbowl no matter what I guess is just a myth.

Oct 7, 2023 at 5:33 PM

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Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by dj43:
It's in the trenches. It's always in the trenches!

Dallas is going to challenge the middle of the Niner run D with the best pair of run-blocking Guards (Tyler Smith #1 and Zach Martin #4) in the league, and a Center that is roughly the equivalent of Brendel when he was playing well last season. Hargrave, AA, and Kinlaw will be tested big time. They should hold up but it will be a 60-minute battle worth watching.

Likewise, on defense, Dallas brings the best pair of pass-rushing EDs in the league, Lawrence and Parsons. Hankins is enough of a load inside to keep double-teams off the EDs. Banks, Burford, and Brendel will have their hands full protecting their own turf to help outside. None of those three are above "replacement" grade when it comes to pass blocking. McKivitz will need help from TEs which will take away one potential quick outlet pass for Purdy.

In the end, Dallas has an edge in the trenches on both sides of the ball. Kyle and Wilks will have to use scheme to counter.

They had those "advantages" the last 2 years as well. The Dallas OL has been elite for a while. Strange they haven't done much....almost as if the QB is more important....

LOL. Dallas' OL hasn't been elite in ages. And the greatest OL in history can't do anything for Dak's psyche in big games. It's 'almost' like you need both.
Ok. I thought OL is so important that everything else doesn't matter. Whichever team that have the best OL wins the Superbowl no matter what I guess is just a myth.

LOL. You sound like All, Hoov and 9ers4eva. Haha.

No, the Superbowl winners had BOTH the QB + OL playing at elite levels (and won the Superbowl).

You need both.

Capiche?

Detroit is 1 of 2 teams in the tier 1 OL. Do you think they'll win a Superbowl with Goff?

You need both.

[ Edited by NCommand on Oct 7, 2023 at 5:34 PM ]

Oct 7, 2023 at 5:40 PM

#674

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Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by dj43:
It's in the trenches. It's always in the trenches!

Dallas is going to challenge the middle of the Niner run D with the best pair of run-blocking Guards (Tyler Smith #1 and Zach Martin #4) in the league, and a Center that is roughly the equivalent of Brendel when he was playing well last season. Hargrave, AA, and Kinlaw will be tested big time. They should hold up but it will be a 60-minute battle worth watching.

Likewise, on defense, Dallas brings the best pair of pass-rushing EDs in the league, Lawrence and Parsons. Hankins is enough of a load inside to keep double-teams off the EDs. Banks, Burford, and Brendel will have their hands full protecting their own turf to help outside. None of those three are above "replacement" grade when it comes to pass blocking. McKivitz will need help from TEs which will take away one potential quick outlet pass for Purdy.

In the end, Dallas has an edge in the trenches on both sides of the ball. Kyle and Wilks will have to use scheme to counter.

They had those "advantages" the last 2 years as well. The Dallas OL has been elite for a while. Strange they haven't done much....almost as if the QB is more important....

LOL. Dallas' OL hasn't been elite in ages. And the greatest OL in history can't do anything for Dak's psyche in big games. It's 'almost' like you need both.
Ok. I thought OL is so important that everything else doesn't matter. Whichever team that have the best OL wins the Superbowl no matter what I guess is just a myth.

LOL. You sound like All, Hoov and 9ers4eva. Haha.

No, the Superbowl winners had BOTH the QB + OL playing at elite levels (and won the Superbowl).

You need both.

Capiche?

Detroit is 1 of 2 teams in the tier 1 OL. Do you think they'll win a Superbowl with Goff?

You need both.

If you are the Niner GM, would you trade Bosa, CMC, Warner, and Aiyuk for 4 star linemen? Do you think that would give us a better chance to win the Superbowl?

Oct 7, 2023 at 6:00 PM

#675

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Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by frenchmov:

Originally posted by dj43:
It's in the trenches. It's always in the trenches!

Dallas is going to challenge the middle of the Niner run D with the best pair of run-blocking Guards (Tyler Smith #1 and Zach Martin #4) in the league, and a Center that is roughly the equivalent of Brendel when he was playing well last season. Hargrave, AA, and Kinlaw will be tested big time. They should hold up but it will be a 60-minute battle worth watching.

Likewise, on defense, Dallas brings the best pair of pass-rushing EDs in the league, Lawrence and Parsons. Hankins is enough of a load inside to keep double-teams off the EDs. Banks, Burford, and Brendel will have their hands full protecting their own turf to help outside. None of those three are above "replacement" grade when it comes to pass blocking. McKivitz will need help from TEs which will take away one potential quick outlet pass for Purdy.

In the end, Dallas has an edge in the trenches on both sides of the ball. Kyle and Wilks will have to use scheme to counter.

They had those "advantages" the last 2 years as well. The Dallas OL has been elite for a while. Strange they haven't done much....almost as if the QB is more important....

LOL. Dallas' OL hasn't been elite in ages. And the greatest OL in history can't do anything for Dak's psyche in big games. It's 'almost' like you need both.
Ok. I thought OL is so important that everything else doesn't matter. Whichever team that have the best OL wins the Superbowl no matter what I guess is just a myth.

LOL. You sound like All, Hoov and 9ers4eva. Haha.

No, the Superbowl winners had BOTH the QB + OL playing at elite levels (and won the Superbowl).

You need both.

Capiche?

Detroit is 1 of 2 teams in the tier 1 OL. Do you think they'll win a Superbowl with Goff?

You need both.

If you are the Niner GM, would you trade Bosa, CMC, Warner, and Aiyuk for 4 star linemen? Do you think that would give us a better chance to win the Superbowl?

If I was the GM, I had 7 years to upgrade the OL while keeping all those guys as well.