49ERS at BROWNS Pregame Thread - 2023 Season Week 6

Can't wait to go 6-0 and hear all week how the Vikings will be a "trap game"

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Can't wait to go 6-0 and hear all week how the Vikings will be a "trap game"

The only trap in Minnesota will be that damn playing surface.

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Can't wait to go 6-0 and hear all week how the Vikings will be a "trap game"

Expect this against every mid to trash opponent we face. Nothing about this team's current culture says they aren't completely focused on who they are facing that week. If they didn't sleep on Arizona with Dallas coming up right behind them, then I'm not sure why anyone is worried about them having a letdown vs weaker teams. This team looks completely 🔒 and focused. You basically have to play perfectly to beat them right now. These mid teams aren't capable of playing mistake free. This is one of the reasons they are mid.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Can't wait to go 6-0 and hear all week how the Vikings will be a "trap game"

The only trap in Minnesota will be that damn playing surface.

I'll be at the Minny game! Can't wait

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Can't wait to go 6-0 and hear all week how the Vikings will be a "trap game"

The only trap in Minnesota will be that damn playing surface.

This X 1000. Hopefully we blow the doors off them early enough to sit guys down. Watching Kelce and Jefferson go down to non-contact injuries up there terrifies me, and I'm really hoping we can make it into the bye week healthy.

Yea if they lose it won't be b/c they weren't focused on the opponent. Just the other team was better that day. Cleveland will be the best defense they have faced this year. so another good talent and test. Especially for the o line b.c they have 2 good pass rushers off the edge. Not sure what is about Jim Schwartz but he's 7-1 versus KS offenses. I'm smelling a low scoring contest. Niners 17-3

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
I don't think weather will be an issue... at all.

https://www.wunderground.com/forecast/us/oh/cleveland/41.50,-81.70

So far it looks like the weather the first half of the game should be good, enough time for us to run up the score and get Brock 4 touchdowns and just run it in the rain in the second half.

the weather forecast has changed so much all week. At least we are closer to Sunday so I'm sure it's more accurate but we will have to see on Sunday.

i just don't want rain - that's all I can see stopping up from continuing our streak of 30! And I selfishly want to see Brock get more touchdowns. Lol I love it when a 49ers qb has great stats.

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:

Originally posted by ritz126:
Apparently a (not so) fun fact

KS against Jim Schwartz is 0-8 and has not scored more than 20 points

Holy s*** that's insane, and a little scary, haha.

Let's track Kyle since 2008 (first year as OC):

2008-2009: Texans
2010-2013: Redskins
2014: Browns
2015-2016: Falcons
2017-Present: Niners

Let's track Schwartz (as DC):

2008: Titans
2009-2013 (as head coach): Lions
2014 : Bills
2016-2020: Eagles
2021-2022: Titans (Senior defensive assistant)
2023: Browns

2008 Texans vs. Titans: Texans scored 12 and 13 points in two outings, one a blowout loss and one win 13-12
2010-2013: Redskins vs Lions....Lions beat Redskins twice 37-25 in 2010, and 27-20 in 2013
2014: Browns vs Bills (Bills won 26-10)
2016: Falcons vs. Eagles (Eagles won 24-15)
2017-2020: 49ers vs. Eagles (Niners sucked in 2017, heavily injured in 2020 in the game they played with Mullens and that weird pick)
2021: Titans 20, 49ers 17 (does this game count if he's not DC?)

Many of these games above, Kyle's team wasn't special. I wouldn't hold any of those Texans games against Kyle. 2010 Redskins had Rex Grossman, John Beck scrubs. 2013 Redskins had RG3 coming off the injury who wasn't all that great that season (I was there when the Niners smashed them at FedEx). 2014 Browns Kyle did a good job of, but the Bills were likely better.

I look at the above and the only game that stands out right away is the 2016 Falcons vs Eagles, since that was the Super Bowl year for the Falcons. That game was played November 13th, week 10, in Philly. After that game, the Falcons only lost one more game (29-28) the rest of the way to Alex Smith KC Chiefs at home, where the offensive onslaught surged with point totals of 38, 42, 41, 33, 38 , before postseason of 36, 44, and 28 points in a little over 3Q in the Super Bowl.

So it's safe to say Schwartz has only really faced off Kyle head on one time where the two teams were on equal footing or maybe Kyle's was better. That 15 points were the lowest scored the entire season by the Falcons (they managed 24 point in Seattle, when playing up there was still a thing).

But it's good stuff to note, and if for some reason the Browns limit the Niners this weekend, it will be good film for Kyle to review and others to attempt to copy. However, as good as Schwartz could be, we've all seen a defense wilt when the offense cannot put up a damn drive (see week 2, 2013, 49ers at Seahawks)....

Originally posted by lamontb:
Yea if they lose it won't be b/c they weren't focused on the opponent. Just the other team was better that day. Cleveland will be the best defense they have faced this year. so another good talent and test. Especially for the o line b.c they have 2 good pass rushers off the edge. Not sure what is about Jim Schwartz but he's 7-1 versus KS offenses. I'm smelling a low scoring contest. Niners 17-3

JTsBig was able to add some context to why Kyle's offense hasn't done well versus Schwartz's defense (quoted above). Things have changed from when Kyle's offense (run game) was predominantly outside zone - it no longer is. Wide9 front was designed to rush the passer and contain outside zone. Between Kyle expanding his run game to being much more than outside zone, and him having much better offensive talent, Kyle should find more offensive success on Sunday.

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Can't wait to go 6-0 and hear all week how the Vikings will be a "trap game"

that doesn't meet, the criteria
you think Shanny will allow the team to sleep on Kirk Cousins?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Can't wait to go 6-0 and hear all week how the Vikings will be a "trap game"

that doesn't meet, the criteria
you think Shanny will allow the team to sleep on Kirk Cousins?

Lol that's also a Monday night game.. imagine our team not stomping out the bum ass Vikings without Jefferson in prime time…

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Can't wait to go 6-0 and hear all week how the Vikings will be a "trap game"

that doesn't meet, the criteria
you think Shanny will allow the team to sleep on Kirk Cousins?

Lol that's also a Monday night game.. imagine our team not stomping out the bum ass Vikings without Jefferson in prime time…

Shanny v Cousins on MNF, I like that

Win 24-16, no turnovers, and get out of there without any injuries, potential rain.

Originally posted by 49ersking:
Win 24-16, no turnovers, and get out of there without any injuries, potential rain.

8 field goals by Moody? Damn!

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by 49ersking:
Win 24-16, no turnovers, and get out of there without any injuries, potential rain.

8 field goals by Moody? Damn!

Browns #1 in passing defense, #1 in rushing defense. We can only go by the stats, even if it's only 5 games.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 91til:
I'm in a desperate spot in fantasy football with my RBs. Would you guys play Jerome Ford (Browns starter) hoping he gets a random TD or do we feel good enough about our advantage that I should play Jordan Mason for some garbage time points?

You have no problem with playing Ford and hoping he scores against the 49ers?

And THIS is why I no longer play fantasy football.