Fire Steve Wilks now!

Originally posted by swayze:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by swayze:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I suspect he is getting scapegoated cuz ppl feel a need for heads to roll,
he's the most convenient target for ppls ire

As far as getting "scapegoated," players play fast when they understand their assignments and are confident that they all understand those mesh points and can trust their teammates. What I see are players--players who for the last several years have been fast, "all gas no brakes"--suddenly tentative about their responsibilities. They don't play as fast as they used to, and offensive playcallers have seen that and are exploiting it.

Who altered those assignments and responsibilities? Who introduced doubt and uncertainty into this world class defense?

playing fast what are you talking about, just have to tackle Joe B
the play was there to be made, make the play, nothing to do with fast, just to do with tackle the ballcarrier, in this case a more or less pocket passer QB

So you think what, they didn't *want* to tackle him? They didn't *want* to make the play?

Or they just all regressed, simultaneously, for reasons that have nothing to do with coaching

I think they effed up the execution. It was a good play, just can't allow the QB out of the grasp, twice.

No one needs to be fired, cuz of that play. Just need to get the QB to ground next time.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
No one is getting scapegoated. He has been awful

so has the O
17 points a game, and a rash of turnovers in this losing streak

yet it's KS, who has built up massive equity over the years with the club and fans, and he's not remotely on any hot seat
Wilks has no such equity,

to clarify I'm not saying KS should be on the hot seat, I just disagree with fire Wilks as the solution, players decide games for the most part, we have good players, they have to play better, can't fail to tackle Joe Burrow like he's Beast Mode.

That's how it works guys with proven track records have longer leashes Wilks has no such track record.

If coaching is irrelevant for the most part almost anyone should be capable of doing it even Wilks yet defenses he's associated with fail time and time again.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Tim Ryan is on KNBR right now and he's talking about the advantages of having the DC on the sidelines. He feels that being able to talk to the players about what's going on and getting direct feedback really helps and makes it easier for them to make adjustments.

We were talking about that here two weeks ago.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
That's how it works guys with proven track records have longer leashes Wilks has no such track record.

If coaching is irrelevant for the most part almost anyone should be capable of doing it even Wilks yet defenses he's associated with fail time and time again.

I think Wilks has a pretty darn good track record, he's been coaching a long time, was hired as HC, and named interim HC. Two dif orgs, named this guy the leader of the entire team. I was pretty impressed how well a CAR team that got burnt to the ground selling off players, competed to end last season.

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
3 straight games looking like trash and it's safe to say he has no solution. Niners supposed to be in a "Super Bowl window" and now we may not even make the playoffs. Something MUST change!

Bruh I called this on the first preseason game that we should be worried and I was laughed out of the webzone this dude has taken a BMW defense and turned it into a BMX bike I am sending Steve Wilkes my bill for YouTube TV

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I think Wilks has a pretty darn good track record, he's been coaching a long time, was hired as HC, and named interim HC. Two dif orgs, named this guy the leader of the entire team. I was pretty impressed how well a CAR team that got burnt to the ground selling off players, competed to end last season.

Lol

Arizona fired him after one season, dumped the rookie QB they drafted and moved on to Kingsbury and Kyler.

Same with Carolina.

If Wilks was a good coach, they wouldn't have moved on.

He sucks.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
That's how it works guys with proven track records have longer leashes Wilks has no such track record.

If coaching is irrelevant for the most part almost anyone should be capable of doing it even Wilks yet defenses he's associated with fail time and time again.

I think Wilks has a pretty darn good track record, he's been coaching a long time, was hired as HC, and named interim HC. Two dif orgs, named this guy the leader of the entire team. I was pretty impressed how well a CAR team that got burnt to the ground selling off players, competed to end last season.

I think Wilkes is a guy who players respect want to play for, but he's not a guy with a great defensive scheme. Getting him on the sideline might be the best first step in ameliorating the problem. These guys like him, so having him down there might help. Maybe someone upstairs to help scheme better, I don't know.

Originally posted by linkboy:
Lol

Arizona fired him after one season, dumped the rookie QB they drafted and moved on to Kingsbury and Kyler.

Same with Carolina.

If Wilks was a good coach, they wouldn't have moved on.

He sucks.

huge upgrade

(that was sarcasm)

Originally posted by Chance:
I think Wilkes is a guy who players respect want to play for, but he's not a guy with a great defensive scheme. Getting him on the sideline might be the best first step in ameliorating the problem. These guys like him, so having him down there might help. Maybe someone upstairs to help scheme better, I don't know.

He's in the booth because he wants to be separated from the emotion on the field.

There are a couple of other changes to look out for in the Steve Wilks era. For the first time under Shanahan, San Francisco's defensive coordinator plans to be up in the booth during game days, a move he said allows him to separate himself from some of the emotion on the field and allows for a better vantage point to call plays.

Originally posted by linkboy:

Originally posted by Chance:
I think Wilkes is a guy who players respect want to play for, but he's not a guy with a great defensive scheme. Getting him on the sideline might be the best first step in ameliorating the problem. These guys like him, so having him down there might help. Maybe someone upstairs to help scheme better, I don't know.

He's in the booth because he wants to be separated from the emotion on the field.

There are a couple of other changes to look out for in the Steve Wilks era. For the first time under Shanahan, San Francisco's defensive coordinator plans to be up in the booth during game days, a move he said allows him to separate himself from some of the emotion on the field and allows for a better vantage point to call plays.

so he doesnt want to be emotionally involved, that explains a lot

Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:
If we want to save our season, Lynch needs to swallow his pride and realize he hired a terrible D coordinator. They keep saying they're fully behind him, which is dumb as hell. The guy needs to be shown the door now! Promote a position coach, hire any ok D coordinator out there, s**t whatever you have to do to replace this moron.

Shanahan made the final decision on Wilks, not Lynch.

Shanahan may have a huge ego but he also realizes his ego is tied to wins. We can rest assured that, given the comments KS made about the blitz call last week, during this bye Shanahan and Wilks will be having a serious conversation about how to turn things around. I have no idea how that might go, however, given what Wilks has said about needing to be separated from the emotions of the field, I don't see him keeping his job while staying upstairs. Something has to change. Having Wilks on the sideline sounds like a Band-Aid on a major wound unless it comes with a scheme change.

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:

Originally posted by linkboy:

Originally posted by Chance:
I think Wilkes is a guy who players respect want to play for, but he's not a guy with a great defensive scheme. Getting him on the sideline might be the best first step in ameliorating the problem. These guys like him, so having him down there might help. Maybe someone upstairs to help scheme better, I don't know.

He's in the booth because he wants to be separated from the emotion on the field.

There are a couple of other changes to look out for in the Steve Wilks era. For the first time under Shanahan, San Francisco's defensive coordinator plans to be up in the booth during game days, a move he said allows him to separate himself from some of the emotion on the field and allows for a better vantage point to call plays.

so he doesnt want to be emotionally involved, that explains a lot

As a leader, that's part of the job.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
As a leader, that's part of the job.

Especially as a defensive coach.

Defense is predicated on emotion. This applies to both coaching and players. If you're soft on defense, you're not going to have success.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
No one is getting scapegoated. He has been awful

so has the O
17 points a game, and a rash of turnovers in this losing streak

yet it's KS, who has built up massive equity over the years with the club and fans, and he's not remotely on any hot seat
Wilks has no such equity,

to clarify I'm not saying KS should be on the hot seat, I just disagree with fire Wilks as the solution, players decide games for the most part, we have good players, they have to play better, can't fail to tackle Joe Burrow like he's Beast Mode.

The fact that everything Phoenix called out after the hire about his shortcomings as a defensive guy have played out to a tee speaks volumes

Let's move the conversation over to the main Wilks thread. Though this theme is the hot topic, it is too hard to keep up with two threads.