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49ERS at JAGUARS Pregame Thread - 2023 Season Week 10
49ERS at JAGUARS Pregame Thread - 2023 Season Week 10
Nov 1, 2023 at 8:30 AM
- Kolohe
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If the 49ers defense became the defense we all saw vs Dallas, I could give two s**ts if Purdy became a dink-n-dunker the rest of the season. Just stop with those lame ass 4th qrt picks.
Nov 1, 2023 at 8:32 AM
- Fanaticofnfl
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The defense hasn't helped but if Brock is going to take that next step and become an elite QB he has to be able to make big plays in crunch time. Not just when they're leading and everything is going smoothly. Driving down the field to get into FG range is relatively easy in the NFL these days with the rues that make it easier for the passing game. Four or five short completions and you're in FG range. Getting into the end zone is entirely different. The defense tightens up the closer you get. There's a reason Kyle is 0-37 when trailing by 8 or more in the 4th. I suspect most treams are on the short end of that stat. Maybe not that bad but the chances of winning go way down when trailing in the 4th by 2 scores or more. It takes a true elite QB and a big team effort to come back in those situations.
Id be surprised if anyone outside of KC has more than 5 wins in that same time period. Most teams probably have 1-3.
I think I saw somewhere that the average winning percentage in that situation is like .100. So obviously 0-37 is bad but 4-33 would be considered above average. I don't think 4 additional regular season wins over the course of 6.5 seasons changes the narrative much for Kyle unless one of those wins is the Super Bowl against KC (which was basically lost when they went up 11 at the last minute anyway) or the NFC Championship in Philly (which was basically lost before halftime anyway).
[ Edited by Fanaticofnfl on Nov 1, 2023 at 8:32 AM ]
Nov 1, 2023 at 8:52 AM
- 4T-9ers
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I've never liked bye weeks because you have to wait so long to see your team play but in this case, the bye week is so badly needed. Not only to rest our injured players, esp. Purdy but also a chance for the team to regroup, refocus and recharge.
Nov 1, 2023 at 9:01 AM
- 9ers4eva
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I think I saw somewhere that the average winning percentage in that situation is like .100. So obviously 0-37 is bad but 4-33 would be considered above average. I don't think 4 additional regular season wins over the course of 6.5 seasons changes the narrative much for Kyle unless one of those wins is the Super Bowl against KC (which was basically lost when they went up 11 at the last minute anyway) or the NFC Championship in Philly (which was basically lost before halftime anyway).
Right. So that stat is really an indictment of the QB play more than anything.
Gotta get the QB play to the level where those games are won. Still think Brock can get there it's just a process.
Nov 1, 2023 at 9:21 AM
- 9erson3
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I think I saw somewhere that the average winning percentage in that situation is like .100. So obviously 0-37 is bad but 4-33 would be considered above average. I don't think 4 additional regular season wins over the course of 6.5 seasons changes the narrative much for Kyle unless one of those wins is the Super Bowl against KC (which was basically lost when they went up 11 at the last minute anyway) or the NFC Championship in Philly (which was basically lost before halftime anyway).
Right. So that stat is really an indictment of the QB play more than anything.
Gotta get the QB play to the level where those games are won. Still think Brock can get there it's just a process.
I sort of disagree and we have seen enough of Kyle to know how he rolls. It would be cool if we could just drop back and pass more often especially in the 4th when time is ticking away but Kyle likes to run run and try the pass when the run is gaining low yards. We have a more talented QB now, yes we do and a host of guys who could get screen passes to but Kyle will continue to always go with run first when time is starting to become a small issue and sometimes a big issue. He is an old dog that is locked into ways and that is cool too as there has been success but that losing stat in the 4th quarter is a tall tale sign and I still think we need to open it up. Drop back and let him go.
[ Edited by 9erson3 on Nov 1, 2023 at 9:22 AM ]
Nov 1, 2023 at 11:32 AM
- Cisco0623
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I hope we can keep Trevor under 80% completion rate.
Nov 1, 2023 at 11:34 AM
- SanDiego49er
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Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I hope we can keep Trevor under 80% completion rate.
Nov 1, 2023 at 3:09 PM
- Montana
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Feeling like a long bye already lol...no great highlights to watch from the last 3 games.
Nov 1, 2023 at 3:10 PM
- DonnieDarko
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Originally posted by Montana:
Feeling like a long bye already lol...no great highlights to watch from the last 3 games.
I haven't watched any niner content since we blew out the cowboys lol
Nov 1, 2023 at 3:14 PM
- leakyfausett
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Jags allowing 2.4 sacks per game.
Nov 1, 2023 at 3:55 PM
- titan
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Must win. Let's Go Niners!!!
Nov 1, 2023 at 3:59 PM
- D0PEMAN
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Originally posted by titan:
Must win. Let's Go Niners!!!
as close as it gets to a must win
all things considered, niners losing this game will speak volumes about them having no solutions for their problems, which is why I think wilks will be fired if he doesnt get the defense back on track
[ Edited by D0PEMAN on Nov 1, 2023 at 4:00 PM ]
Nov 1, 2023 at 4:17 PM
- Sickaa
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I hope we can keep Trevor under 80% completion rate.
I'm expecting Trevor to look like the best QB In league going against wilks defense
Nov 1, 2023 at 4:20 PM
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
I haven't watched any niner content since we blew out the cowboys lol
Wise decision
Nov 1, 2023 at 4:23 PM
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Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
I haven't watched any niner content since we blew out the cowboys lol
Wise decision
i have extra TV, you need one?