2024 Top Team Needs & Ideal Future Plans

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:
RG and PK too.

Too early for this, Burford needs time to develop, and the 49ers aren't cutting Moody after 1yr, he'll get a 2nd yr IMO.

Burford has been playing for a full 1.5 years and is rated as one of the very worst G's in football and he's regressed with more snaps...not gotten better. It's costing us now.

Sadly true about Moody. Should have gone with an UDFA like everyone else.

So 1.5 years, kid needs to develop more, can't call someone a bust or get rid of him after 1.5 yrs, but oh right it's this god damn fanbase that b***hes about everything. As for Moody, he'll turn it around IMO.

Bro. He's ranked 75 out of 76 G's in just pass protection alone. At some point, Brock and his safety need to be more considered over a RG needing developmental reps. You also said this 24th ranked OL is good enough to win a Superbowl and that Brock can transcend it. Sorry, but you're wrong on that topic. You need to stop playing so much Madden with the rest of these guys in the OL thread. Haha.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:
RG and PK too.

Too early for this, Burford needs time to develop, and the 49ers aren't cutting Moody after 1yr, he'll get a 2nd yr IMO.

Burford has been playing for a full 1.5 years and is rated as one of the very worst G's in football and he's regressed with more snaps...not gotten better. It's costing us now.

Sadly true about Moody. Should have gone with an UDFA like everyone else.

This has been a major frustration for me. He continues to be inconsistent holding his blocks. I know it's only year 2 but at this point the team definitely needs to get another guy to push him. I wonder if Jesse Davis makes an appearance at some point. Of course we've got Ilm Manning too. I'd love to see Manning get exclusive reps at center.

I have been looking at OL prospects and man.. while tackles look OK in terms of depth in the '24 class, IOL is REALLY ROUGH. It's a real crapshoot there -- almost every single one needs a lot of work. Teams are gonna be banking hard on potential and whoever gets lucky essentially with the guys who realize it will be in good shape.

That's discouraging on both points. I would have loved Ezra Cleveland. If he wanted to play RT, so be it. Hell, pick up Collins. We just need to infuse some talent into this group if we're going to have any shot of actually winning a Superbowl.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:
RG and PK too.

Too early for this, Burford needs time to develop, and the 49ers aren't cutting Moody after 1yr, he'll get a 2nd yr IMO.

Burford has been playing for a full 1.5 years and is rated as one of the very worst G's in football and he's regressed with more snaps...not gotten better. It's costing us now.

Sadly true about Moody. Should have gone with an UDFA like everyone else.

So 1.5 years, kid needs to develop more, can't call someone a bust or get rid of him after 1.5 yrs, but oh right it's this god damn fanbase that b***hes about everything. As for Moody, he'll turn it around IMO.

Bro. He's ranked 75 out of 76 G's in just pass protection alone. At some point, Brock and his safety need to be more considered over a RG needing developmental reps. You also said this 24th ranked OL is good enough to win a Superbowl and that Brock can transcend it. Sorry, but you're wrong on that topic. You need to stop playing so much Madden with the rest of these guys in the OL thread. Haha.

I know where he's ranked, I'm not happy, but hopeful he can turn it around, he was playing good the first 5 weeks, now everyone sucks the last 3 weeks, so I'm willing to give him a chance to clean things up. I hardly play Madden, waste of money, then again been waiting for the Trade Deadline update to start my franchise mode lol

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:
RG and PK too.

Too early for this, Burford needs time to develop, and the 49ers aren't cutting Moody after 1yr, he'll get a 2nd yr IMO.

Burford has been playing for a full 1.5 years and is rated as one of the very worst G's in football and he's regressed with more snaps...not gotten better. It's costing us now.

Sadly true about Moody. Should have gone with an UDFA like everyone else.

This has been a major frustration for me. He continues to be inconsistent holding his blocks. I know it's only year 2 but at this point the team definitely needs to get another guy to push him. I wonder if Jesse Davis makes an appearance at some point. Of course we've got Ilm Manning too. I'd love to see Manning get exclusive reps at center.

I have been looking at OL prospects and man.. while tackles look OK in terms of depth in the '24 class, IOL is REALLY ROUGH. It's a real crapshoot there -- almost every single one needs a lot of work. Teams are gonna be banking hard on potential and whoever gets lucky essentially with the guys who realize it will be in good shape.

That's discouraging on both points. I would have loved Ezra Cleveland. If he wanted to play RT, so be it. Hell, pick up Collins. We just need to infuse some talent into this group if we're going to have any shot of actually winning a Superbowl.

Ezra's not that great, I watch every Vikings game, due to my late Dad being a Vikes fan, they wanted him gone, fans, and they wanted Risner in there.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:
RG and PK too.

Too early for this, Burford needs time to develop, and the 49ers aren't cutting Moody after 1yr, he'll get a 2nd yr IMO.

Burford has been playing for a full 1.5 years and is rated as one of the very worst G's in football and he's regressed with more snaps...not gotten better. It's costing us now.

Sadly true about Moody. Should have gone with an UDFA like everyone else.

So 1.5 years, kid needs to develop more, can't call someone a bust or get rid of him after 1.5 yrs, but oh right it's this god damn fanbase that b***hes about everything. As for Moody, he'll turn it around IMO.

Bro. He's ranked 75 out of 76 G's in just pass protection alone. At some point, Brock and his safety need to be more considered over a RG needing developmental reps. You also said this 24th ranked OL is good enough to win a Superbowl and that Brock can transcend it. Sorry, but you're wrong on that topic. You need to stop playing so much Madden with the rest of these guys in the OL thread. Haha.

Lol you really are insufferable

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:
RG and PK too.

Too early for this, Burford needs time to develop, and the 49ers aren't cutting Moody after 1yr, he'll get a 2nd yr IMO.

Burford has been playing for a full 1.5 years and is rated as one of the very worst G's in football and he's regressed with more snaps...not gotten better. It's costing us now.

Sadly true about Moody. Should have gone with an UDFA like everyone else.

So 1.5 years, kid needs to develop more, can't call someone a bust or get rid of him after 1.5 yrs, but oh right it's this god damn fanbase that b***hes about everything. As for Moody, he'll turn it around IMO.

Bro. He's ranked 75 out of 76 G's in just pass protection alone. At some point, Brock and his safety need to be more considered over a RG needing developmental reps. You also said this 24th ranked OL is good enough to win a Superbowl and that Brock can transcend it. Sorry, but you're wrong on that topic. You need to stop playing so much Madden with the rest of these guys in the OL thread. Haha.

Lol you really are insufferable

He really loves his PFF rankings, which I refuse to acknowledge as truth, s**t makes no sense.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:
RG and PK too.

Too early for this, Burford needs time to develop, and the 49ers aren't cutting Moody after 1yr, he'll get a 2nd yr IMO.

Burford has been playing for a full 1.5 years and is rated as one of the very worst G's in football and he's regressed with more snaps...not gotten better. It's costing us now.

Sadly true about Moody. Should have gone with an UDFA like everyone else.

So 1.5 years, kid needs to develop more, can't call someone a bust or get rid of him after 1.5 yrs, but oh right it's this god damn fanbase that b***hes about everything. As for Moody, he'll turn it around IMO.

Bro. He's ranked 75 out of 76 G's in just pass protection alone. At some point, Brock and his safety need to be more considered over a RG needing developmental reps. You also said this 24th ranked OL is good enough to win a Superbowl and that Brock can transcend it. Sorry, but you're wrong on that topic. You need to stop playing so much Madden with the rest of these guys in the OL thread. Haha.

Lol you really are insufferable

Nobody cares what you think. Block me fool.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:
RG and PK too.

Too early for this, Burford needs time to develop, and the 49ers aren't cutting Moody after 1yr, he'll get a 2nd yr IMO.

Burford has been playing for a full 1.5 years and is rated as one of the very worst G's in football and he's regressed with more snaps...not gotten better. It's costing us now.

Sadly true about Moody. Should have gone with an UDFA like everyone else.

So 1.5 years, kid needs to develop more, can't call someone a bust or get rid of him after 1.5 yrs, but oh right it's this god damn fanbase that b***hes about everything. As for Moody, he'll turn it around IMO.

Bro. He's ranked 75 out of 76 G's in just pass protection alone. At some point, Brock and his safety need to be more considered over a RG needing developmental reps. You also said this 24th ranked OL is good enough to win a Superbowl and that Brock can transcend it. Sorry, but you're wrong on that topic. You need to stop playing so much Madden with the rest of these guys in the OL thread. Haha.

Lol you really are insufferable

He really loves his PFF rankings, which I refuse to acknowledge as truth, s**t makes no sense.

PFF (wannabes) and TrenchWarfare (actual SME's). When they're both in the same ballpark, you can trust it a bit more as it relates to the lot.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:
RG and PK too.

Too early for this, Burford needs time to develop, and the 49ers aren't cutting Moody after 1yr, he'll get a 2nd yr IMO.

Burford has been playing for a full 1.5 years and is rated as one of the very worst G's in football and he's regressed with more snaps...not gotten better. It's costing us now.

Sadly true about Moody. Should have gone with an UDFA like everyone else.

So 1.5 years, kid needs to develop more, can't call someone a bust or get rid of him after 1.5 yrs, but oh right it's this god damn fanbase that b***hes about everything. As for Moody, he'll turn it around IMO.

Bro. He's ranked 75 out of 76 G's in just pass protection alone. At some point, Brock and his safety need to be more considered over a RG needing developmental reps. You also said this 24th ranked OL is good enough to win a Superbowl and that Brock can transcend it. Sorry, but you're wrong on that topic. You need to stop playing so much Madden with the rest of these guys in the OL thread. Haha.

I know where he's ranked, I'm not happy, but hopeful he can turn it around, he was playing good the first 5 weeks, now everyone sucks the last 3 weeks, so I'm willing to give him a chance to clean things up. I hardly play Madden, waste of money, then again been waiting for the Trade Deadline update to start my franchise mode lol

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:
RG and PK too.

Too early for this, Burford needs time to develop, and the 49ers aren't cutting Moody after 1yr, he'll get a 2nd yr IMO.

Burford has been playing for a full 1.5 years and is rated as one of the very worst G's in football and he's regressed with more snaps...not gotten better. It's costing us now.

Sadly true about Moody. Should have gone with an UDFA like everyone else.

This has been a major frustration for me. He continues to be inconsistent holding his blocks. I know it's only year 2 but at this point the team definitely needs to get another guy to push him. I wonder if Jesse Davis makes an appearance at some point. Of course we've got Ilm Manning too. I'd love to see Manning get exclusive reps at center.

I have been looking at OL prospects and man.. while tackles look OK in terms of depth in the '24 class, IOL is REALLY ROUGH. It's a real crapshoot there -- almost every single one needs a lot of work. Teams are gonna be banking hard on potential and whoever gets lucky essentially with the guys who realize it will be in good shape.

That's discouraging on both points. I would have loved Ezra Cleveland. If he wanted to play RT, so be it. Hell, pick up Collins. We just need to infuse some talent into this group if we're going to have any shot of actually winning a Superbowl.

Ezra's not that great, I watch every Vikings game, due to my late Dad being a Vikes fan, they wanted him gone, fans, and they wanted Risner in there.

Risner? Haha. Where's Hoov and NY on this one now.

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I know where he's ranked, I'm not happy, but hopeful he can turn it around, he was playing good the first 5 weeks, now everyone sucks the last 3 weeks, so I'm willing to give him a chance to clean things up. I hardly play Madden, waste of money, then again been waiting for the Trade Deadline update to start my franchise mode lol

Basically, you could score a 75 out of 76. The thing is he never was good...like much of this OL, it's simply masked by scheme of a <2.5s passing game and exposed when it's not. Like the secondary when opposing QB's do the same and the DL can't get home in time.

LOL at Madden.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I know where he's ranked, I'm not happy, but hopeful he can turn it around, he was playing good the first 5 weeks, now everyone sucks the last 3 weeks, so I'm willing to give him a chance to clean things up. I hardly play Madden, waste of money, then again been waiting for the Trade Deadline update to start my franchise mode lol

Basically, you could score a 75 out of 76. The thing is he never was good...like much of this OL, it's simply masked by scheme of a <2.5s passing game and exposed when it's not. Like the secondary when opposing QB's do the same and the DL can't get home in time.

LOL at Madden.

Agreed as we have said before this line will hold us back the ratings you shared back up the eye test. If we keep doing this crap with not addressing the o line we will not win number 6 in my lifetime. I remember when we drafted 2 lineman in the first round (best draft). Iupati and I can't remember the other. I was stoked and it turned into a great o line.

It's not Madden and Kyle's ego thinks he can scheme around this piss poor line. We need DBs and O line help yet we go after Chase. Chase will be a great addition but the ball will be out too fast in the slot to matter.

I hope the next regime is able to win one but I doubt I'll see number 6. Pisses me off,,,,this was our year with a couple of tweeks. Rinse and repeat over and over.

Frustrating when you work with Seacocks fans.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:
RG and PK too.

Too early for this, Burford needs time to develop, and the 49ers aren't cutting Moody after 1yr, he'll get a 2nd yr IMO.

Burford has been playing for a full 1.5 years and is rated as one of the very worst G's in football and he's regressed with more snaps...not gotten better. It's costing us now.

Sadly true about Moody. Should have gone with an UDFA like everyone else.

So 1.5 years, kid needs to develop more, can't call someone a bust or get rid of him after 1.5 yrs, but oh right it's this god damn fanbase that b***hes about everything. As for Moody, he'll turn it around IMO.

Bro. He's ranked 75 out of 76 G's in just pass protection alone. At some point, Brock and his safety need to be more considered over a RG needing developmental reps. You also said this 24th ranked OL is good enough to win a Superbowl and that Brock can transcend it. Sorry, but you're wrong on that topic. You need to stop playing so much Madden with the rest of these guys in the OL thread. Haha.

Lol you really are insufferable

Nobody cares what you think. Block me fool.

Good one.. and I did block you and you kept responding to every one of my posts

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:
RG and PK too.

Too early for this, Burford needs time to develop, and the 49ers aren't cutting Moody after 1yr, he'll get a 2nd yr IMO.

Burford has been playing for a full 1.5 years and is rated as one of the very worst G's in football and he's regressed with more snaps...not gotten better. It's costing us now.

Sadly true about Moody. Should have gone with an UDFA like everyone else.

So 1.5 years, kid needs to develop more, can't call someone a bust or get rid of him after 1.5 yrs, but oh right it's this god damn fanbase that b***hes about everything. As for Moody, he'll turn it around IMO.

Bro. He's ranked 75 out of 76 G's in just pass protection alone. At some point, Brock and his safety need to be more considered over a RG needing developmental reps. You also said this 24th ranked OL is good enough to win a Superbowl and that Brock can transcend it. Sorry, but you're wrong on that topic. You need to stop playing so much Madden with the rest of these guys in the OL thread. Haha.

Lol you really are insufferable

He really loves his PFF rankings, which I refuse to acknowledge as truth, s**t makes no sense.

He likes whatever he thinks makes him look right, that's what this all boils down to

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:

Originally posted by NCommand:
RG and PK too.

Too early for this, Burford needs time to develop, and the 49ers aren't cutting Moody after 1yr, he'll get a 2nd yr IMO.

Burford has been playing for a full 1.5 years and is rated as one of the very worst G's in football and he's regressed with more snaps...not gotten better. It's costing us now.

Sadly true about Moody. Should have gone with an UDFA like everyone else.

So 1.5 years, kid needs to develop more, can't call someone a bust or get rid of him after 1.5 yrs, but oh right it's this god damn fanbase that b***hes about everything. As for Moody, he'll turn it around IMO.

Bro. He's ranked 75 out of 76 G's in just pass protection alone. At some point, Brock and his safety need to be more considered over a RG needing developmental reps. You also said this 24th ranked OL is good enough to win a Superbowl and that Brock can transcend it. Sorry, but you're wrong on that topic. You need to stop playing so much Madden with the rest of these guys in the OL thread. Haha.

Lol you really are insufferable

Nobody cares what you think. Block me fool.

Good one.. and I did block you and you kept responding to every one of my posts

More lies as always. Nobody responds to you other than All and 9ers4eva.

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I know where he's ranked, I'm not happy, but hopeful he can turn it around, he was playing good the first 5 weeks, now everyone sucks the last 3 weeks, so I'm willing to give him a chance to clean things up. I hardly play Madden, waste of money, then again been waiting for the Trade Deadline update to start my franchise mode lol

Basically, you could score a 75 out of 76. The thing is he never was good...like much of this OL, it's simply masked by scheme of a <2.5s passing game and exposed when it's not. Like the secondary when opposing QB's do the same and the DL can't get home in time.

LOL at Madden.

Agreed as we have said before this line will hold us back the ratings you shared back up the eye test. If we keep doing this crap with not addressing the o line we will not win number 6 in my lifetime. I remember when we drafted 2 lineman in the first round (best draft). Iupati and I can't remember the other. I was stoked and it turned into a great o line.

It's not Madden and Kyle's ego thinks he can scheme around this piss poor line. We need DBs and O line help yet we go after Chase. Chase will be a great addition but the ball will be out too fast in the slot to matter.

I hope the next regime is able to win one but I doubt I'll see number 6. Pisses me off,,,,this was our year with a couple of tweeks. Rinse and repeat over and over.

Frustrating when you work with Seacocks fans.

I feel your pain on both aspects. Born and raised up in that s**thole. Ha

Originally posted by NCommand:
More lies as always. Nobody responds to you other than All and 9ers4eva.

Lol such a child