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I'd bring back Jon F and draft replacements on the interior for Banks and Burford. One because they may not pay in free agency, and the latter because he sucks.

Also Jon likely would only do another one year deal.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Feb 28, 2024 at 11:09 AM ]
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Too early for this, Burford needs time to develop, and the 49ers aren't cutting Moody after 1yr, he'll get a 2nd yr IMO.

Burford is a backup. They need to upgrade.

Edit: saw you posted this in November

Yup.

Williams - elite but aging and can't make it through a full season without missing time. Need young talent badly to learn from TW right now.
Banks - above to average starter on his final year

Brendel, Burford & McKivitz - excellent backups

Feliciano - excellent ROI (above to average starter with C experience)

They've got work to do.

Don't see Brendel as a backup, he's the C for 2024, hope they draft someone, then see what happens in 2025. Keep Feliciano, hope Banks gets even better, Trent is playing his deal out IMO

In terms of overall talent, he'd be an ideal backup with a young C taking over next year. Maybe earlier if he's really talented and smart. C is crucial to this system.

This is Banks last year. I hope he becomes a consistent stud but do you really expect the FO to pay $12M+ to a LG no matter how good he is? Gotta think ahead...

Feliciano would be a quality 1-year resign but we need a young long term RG solution with real upside. And of course T, is scary right now with TW's age and McKivitz.
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Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by thl408:
1. Find a WILL LB (Greenlaw may miss all of 2024)
2. Find two solid run stoppers at DT (2i)
3. Improve RT
4. Improve at right CB
5. Extend Aiyuk and Lenoir.

The results of this past season certainly speak to that need.

In your opinion, how much of the drop-off in run defense is due to talent and how much was Wilks?

I think it was more personnel. 2022's run defense was good and I think Hasaan Ridgeway contributed to that. Even though he was a part time player and was lost in week 12(?) due to injury, he played well against the run. The loss of Ridgeway, Samson Ebukam, and Hufanga in 2023 all contributed to a downgrade in run defense. Also, Hargrave is not known as a run stopper and was given lots of snaps since he was a big free agent acquisition. Him playing a lot contributed to the downtick in 2023's run defense. Jimmy Ward was also a strong run defender at slot CB. Demo is good but didn't play slot CB until midseason-ish.

Wilks is not without blame. There were runs where the lack of run fit discipline from the ILBs showed. Perhaps they (Warner/Greenlaw) were trying to compensate and hunt for plays that were not there to be made. But overall, I'd say it was a personnel issue when comparing 2022 to 2023's run defense.
Not 3 years, he has 2 void years. 8 mill the first and 2 mill the second in dead money. If he plays out this year at his 28 mill cap hit This could be essentially his last season. They could cut him with no penalty until the following season with the 2 void years.
Originally posted by NCommand:
In terms of overall talent, he'd be an ideal backup with a young C taking over next year. Maybe earlier if he's really talented and smart. C is crucial to this system.

This is Banks last year. I hope he becomes a consistent stud but do you really expect the FO to pay $12M+ to a LG no matter how good he is? Gotta think ahead...

Feliciano would be a quality 1-year resign but we need a young long term RG solution with real upside. And of course T, is scary right now with TW's age and McKivitz.

I agree that center should be upgraded, but I don't expect it to happen. Shanahan has never had a rookie center in his career, so I don't expect that position to get younger. That said, they should draft an IOL who is primarily a center but can also play at guard. That way they can upgrade the RG spot while also having the OL's future center in the building.
[ Edited by Heroism on Feb 28, 2024 at 1:00 PM ]
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I'd bring back Jon F and draft replacements on the interior for Banks and Burford. One because they may not pay in free agency, and the latter because he sucks.

Also Jon likely would only do another one year deal.

Feliciano has to be brought back. His versatility as a backup is huge.
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Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by NCommand:
In terms of overall talent, he'd be an ideal backup with a young C taking over next year. Maybe earlier if he's really talented and smart. C is crucial to this system.

This is Banks last year. I hope he becomes a consistent stud but do you really expect the FO to pay $12M+ to a LG no matter how good he is? Gotta think ahead...

Feliciano would be a quality 1-year resign but we need a young long term RG solution with real upside. And of course T, is scary right now with TW's age and McKivitz.

I agree that center should be upgraded, but I don't expect it to happen. Shanahan has never had a rookie center in his career, so I don't expect that position to get younger. That said, they should draft an IOL who is primarily a center but can also play at guard. That way they can upgrade the RG spot while also having the OL's future center in the building.

The Saints made interior OL a priority during the Brees years. Short pocket passers hate pressure up the middle and the Saints made sure Brees was comfortable stepping up in the pocket.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by NCommand:
In terms of overall talent, he'd be an ideal backup with a young C taking over next year. Maybe earlier if he's really talented and smart. C is crucial to this system.

This is Banks last year. I hope he becomes a consistent stud but do you really expect the FO to pay $12M+ to a LG no matter how good he is? Gotta think ahead...

Feliciano would be a quality 1-year resign but we need a young long term RG solution with real upside. And of course T, is scary right now with TW's age and McKivitz.

I agree that center should be upgraded, but I don't expect it to happen. Shanahan has never had a rookie center in his career, so I don't expect that position to get younger. That said, they should draft an IOL who is primarily a center but can also play at guard. That way they can upgrade the RG spot while also having the OL's future center in the building.

The Saints made interior OL a priority during the Brees years. Short pocket passers hate pressure up the middle and the Saints made sure Brees was comfortable stepping up in the pocket.

Hopefully they have seen the light now.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by NCommand:
In terms of overall talent, he'd be an ideal backup with a young C taking over next year. Maybe earlier if he's really talented and smart. C is crucial to this system.

This is Banks last year. I hope he becomes a consistent stud but do you really expect the FO to pay $12M to a LG no matter how good he is? Gotta think ahead...

Feliciano would be a quality 1-year resign but we need a young long term RG solution with real upside. And of course T, is scary right now with TW's age and McKivitz.

I agree that center should be upgraded, but I don't expect it to happen. Shanahan has never had a rookie center in his career, so I don't expect that position to get younger. That said, they should draft an IOL who is primarily a center but can also play at guard. That way they can upgrade the RG spot while also having the OL's future center in the building.

The Saints made interior OL a priority during the Brees years. Short pocket passers hate pressure up the middle and the Saints made sure Brees was comfortable stepping up in the pocket.

Hopefully they have seen the light now.

Protect Purdy!! (Need to spend atleast 2 of the top 3 draft picks)

CB

DE and LB

we need to develop n use Gray, Bell, Latu, Kalia Davis, Drake Jackson
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by NCommand:
In terms of overall talent, he'd be an ideal backup with a young C taking over next year. Maybe earlier if he's really talented and smart. C is crucial to this system.

This is Banks last year. I hope he becomes a consistent stud but do you really expect the FO to pay $12M to a LG no matter how good he is? Gotta think ahead...

Feliciano would be a quality 1-year resign but we need a young long term RG solution with real upside. And of course T, is scary right now with TW's age and McKivitz.

I agree that center should be upgraded, but I don't expect it to happen. Shanahan has never had a rookie center in his career, so I don't expect that position to get younger. That said, they should draft an IOL who is primarily a center but can also play at guard. That way they can upgrade the RG spot while also having the OL's future center in the building.

The Saints made interior OL a priority during the Brees years. Short pocket passers hate pressure up the middle and the Saints made sure Brees was comfortable stepping up in the pocket.

Hopefully they have seen the light now.


LMAO. Perfect.
Why are we getting a 3rd round comp pick for Jimmy G ?
[ Edited by mitpdub on Mar 4, 2024 at 5:29 PM ]
We need to mention how big of a need edge rusher is. We currently have one legit guy on the roster that can rush the passer. And then we wonder why the d line isn't dominate.
Originally posted by mitpdub:
Why are we getting a 3rd round comp pick for Jimmy G ?

Cause the Hargrave signing cancels out the McGlinchey loss in free agency.
I'm intrigued by the idea of adding Graham Glasgow from Detroit for the right price of course, Brendel has a #2m injury gtd on April 1, Glasgow can play C & G, so we could bring Feliciano back or keep Brendel if we lose JF.

Need an EDGE opposite Bosa, not sure the FA class, but need a speed rusher, pray Beal & Jackson improve.
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