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Nov 30, 2023 at 8:23 PM

Eddie_D
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Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
Despite all my researching and hypothesizing, I still can't ascertain whether a Dallas or Seattle loss is better for SF.

In terms of division, of course, Seattle. But depending on how things shake out in the subsequent games, it feels impossible to know which is more advantageous for our beloved Niners.

Seattle loss.

They are in our division. No need to research. The level of importance is division and then work your way up.

the level of importance is seeding. The higher the seed the better.

if on any given Sunday any team can beat any team then we want to minimize the amount of Sunday/Saturday we play.

[ Edited by Eddie_D on Nov 30, 2023 at 8:26 PM ]

Nov 30, 2023 at 10:14 PM

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49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by Eddie_D:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
Despite all my researching and hypothesizing, I still can't ascertain whether a Dallas or Seattle loss is better for SF.

In terms of division, of course, Seattle. But depending on how things shake out in the subsequent games, it feels impossible to know which is more advantageous for our beloved Niners.

Seattle loss.

They are in our division. No need to research. The level of importance is division and then work your way up.

the level of importance is seeding. The higher the seed the better.

if on any given Sunday any team can beat any team then we want to minimize the amount of Sunday/Saturday we play.

We needed a seattle win

Dec 1, 2023 at 12:37 AM

#48

Young2Owens
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Eddie_D:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
Despite all my researching and hypothesizing, I still can't ascertain whether a Dallas or Seattle loss is better for SF.

In terms of division, of course, Seattle. But depending on how things shake out in the subsequent games, it feels impossible to know which is more advantageous for our beloved Niners.

Seattle loss.

They are in our division. No need to research. The level of importance is division and then work your way up.

the level of importance is seeding. The higher the seed the better.

if on any given Sunday any team can beat any team then we want to minimize the amount of Sunday/Saturday we play.
We needed a seattle win

How so? Even if Dallas wins their division, they're more than likely not going to have a better record than us, and we hold the head to head tie breaker.

Dec 1, 2023 at 1:44 AM

#49

All22
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Originally posted by Young2Owens:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Eddie_D:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
Despite all my researching and hypothesizing, I still can't ascertain whether a Dallas or Seattle loss is better for SF.

In terms of division, of course, Seattle. But depending on how things shake out in the subsequent games, it feels impossible to know which is more advantageous for our beloved Niners.

Seattle loss.

They are in our division. No need to research. The level of importance is division and then work your way up.

the level of importance is seeding. The higher the seed the better.

if on any given Sunday any team can beat any team then we want to minimize the amount of Sunday/Saturday we play.
We needed a seattle win

How so? Even if Dallas wins their division, they're more than likely not going to have a better record than us, and we hold the head to head tie breaker.

Would love for Dallas to win the division and deflate the cocky Eagles fans.

The Eagles are 9th in DVOA and they think they're the best because MVS can't catch and they scraped by a Bills team that was kinda good 2 years ago but wont even make the playoffs this year.

[ Edited by All22 on Dec 1, 2023 at 1:49 AM ]

Dec 1, 2023 at 1:46 AM

#50

JaggedJ
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Beat Eagles, Beat Hawks - that will essentially clinch the division. Everything after that is a bonus.

Dec 1, 2023 at 4:17 AM

#51

DrEll
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1) BYE - Dallas(home) - Philly(home)

2) Minn(home) - Detroit(home) - Philly(away)

I don't know. I know we all want to win as many games as possible and grab that number 1 seed with the bye, but that road to Super Bowl LVIII sure looks a lot easier as the number 2 seed. Wouldn't you rather have Philly and Dallas beat each other up, rather than hope that we can beat both ?

Dec 1, 2023 at 4:32 AM

#52

hubbyt
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Originally posted by DrEll:
1) BYE - Dallas(home) - Philly(home)

2) Minn(home) - Detroit(home) - Philly(away)

I don't know. I know we all want to win as many games as possible and grab that number 1 seed with the bye, but that road to Super Bowl LVIII sure looks a lot easier as the number 2 seed. Wouldn't you rather have Philly and Dallas beat each other up, rather than hope that we can beat both ?

Definitely pros to both scenarios. I just badly want to beat PHI this Sunday and then I would be fine with however the seeding shakes out. Would suck to lose again to PHI this weekend and then have to go back there a 3rd time with no reason to be confident.

Dec 1, 2023 at 4:41 AM

#53

SlipAndSlideBosa
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Originally posted by DrEll:
1) BYE - Dallas(home) - Philly(home)

2) Minn(home) - Detroit(home) - Philly(away)

I don't know. I know we all want to win as many games as possible and grab that number 1 seed with the bye, but that road to Super Bowl LVIII sure looks a lot easier as the number 2 seed. Wouldn't you rather have Philly and Dallas beat each other up, rather than hope that we can beat both ?

2 would be preferrable if we don't have to go to Philly, and we can use the Rams game as our Bye.

Dec 1, 2023 at 5:00 AM

#54

DrEll
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Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by DrEll:
1) BYE - Dallas(home) - Philly(home)

2) Minn(home) - Detroit(home) - Philly(away)

I don't know. I know we all want to win as many games as possible and grab that number 1 seed with the bye, but that road to Super Bowl LVIII sure looks a lot easier as the number 2 seed. Wouldn't you rather have Philly and Dallas beat each other up, rather than hope that we can beat both ?

2 would be preferrable if we don't have to go to Philly, and we can use the Rams game as our Bye.

If Dallas beats Philadelphia in the Divisional, they have to come to Levi's for NFCC game. No matter how you look at it, scenario 2 just seems like an easier path to the ultimate goal…

Dec 1, 2023 at 7:33 AM

#55

Cg9erSF
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Originally posted by JaggedJ:
Beat Eagles, Beat Hawks - that will essentially clinch the division. Everything after that is a bonus.

Dec 1, 2023 at 8:06 AM

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CatchMaster80
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Seattle was already 2 games behind the Niners (3 in the division losses). It would have been better for Dallas to lose but they can still help the Niners with a win over the Eagles.

Dec 1, 2023 at 8:31 AM

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49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by Young2Owens:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Eddie_D:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
Despite all my researching and hypothesizing, I still can't ascertain whether a Dallas or Seattle loss is better for SF.

In terms of division, of course, Seattle. But depending on how things shake out in the subsequent games, it feels impossible to know which is more advantageous for our beloved Niners.

Seattle loss.

They are in our division. No need to research. The level of importance is division and then work your way up.

the level of importance is seeding. The higher the seed the better.

if on any given Sunday any team can beat any team then we want to minimize the amount of Sunday/Saturday we play.
We needed a seattle win

How so? Even if Dallas wins their division, they're more than likely not going to have a better record than us, and we hold the head to head tie breaker.

seattle aint winning the div

But for me It's more of Dallas being on the verge of losing two in a row as they play philly next. Need some desperation and hopefully pull out a win vs Philly. With the dallas win now, that game doesn't matter anymore

I am hopeful they would help us land the #1 if we can win this weekend

Dec 1, 2023 at 8:39 AM

#58

hello49
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uh?Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Young2Owens:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Eddie_D:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
Despite all my researching and hypothesizing, I still can't ascertain whether a Dallas or Seattle loss is better for SF.

In terms of division, of course, Seattle. But depending on how things shake out in the subsequent games, it feels impossible to know which is more advantageous for our beloved Niners.

Seattle loss.

They are in our division. No need to research. The level of importance is division and then work your way up.

the level of importance is seeding. The higher the seed the better.

if on any given Sunday any team can beat any team then we want to minimize the amount of Sunday/Saturday we play.
We needed a seattle win

How so? Even if Dallas wins their division, they're more than likely not going to have a better record than us, and we hold the head to head tie breaker.
seattle aint winning the div

But for me It's more of Dallas being on the verge of losing two in a row as they play philly next. Need some desperation and hopefully pull out a win vs Philly. With the dallas win now, that game doesn't matter anymore

I am hopeful they would help us land the #1 if we can win this weekend

huh? Dallas has all the motivation to beat Philly, especially since Dallas won last night. Because if we beat Philly, then Dallas will only be 1 game behind Philly in their division when they play them in Dallas the following week.

Dec 1, 2023 at 8:43 AM

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SlipAndSlideBosa
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Originally posted by hello49:

uh?Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Young2Owens:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Eddie_D:

Originally posted by NinerPrideinNJ:
Despite all my researching and hypothesizing, I still can't ascertain whether a Dallas or Seattle loss is better for SF.

In terms of division, of course, Seattle. But depending on how things shake out in the subsequent games, it feels impossible to know which is more advantageous for our beloved Niners.

Seattle loss.

They are in our division. No need to research. The level of importance is division and then work your way up.

the level of importance is seeding. The higher the seed the better.

if on any given Sunday any team can beat any team then we want to minimize the amount of Sunday/Saturday we play.
We needed a seattle win

How so? Even if Dallas wins their division, they're more than likely not going to have a better record than us, and we hold the head to head tie breaker.
seattle aint winning the div

But for me It's more of Dallas being on the verge of losing two in a row as they play philly next. Need some desperation and hopefully pull out a win vs Philly. With the dallas win now, that game doesn't matter anymore

I am hopeful they would help us land the #1 if we can win this weekend

huh? Dallas has all the motivation to beat Philly, especially since Dallas won last night. Because if we beat Philly, then Dallas will only be 1 game behind Philly in their division when they play them in Dallas the following week.

How does the Tiebreaker work for Dallas and Philly in the case we and Dallas beat PHI and then they both win the rest of their games?

Dec 1, 2023 at 8:57 AM

#60

9ers4eva
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Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
How does the Tiebreaker work for Dallas and Philly in the case we and Dallas beat PHI and then they both win the rest of their games?

Philly would win the division based on better conference record.