49ERS at EAGLES Pregame Thread - 2023 Season Week 13

Why are we debating BA and Brown? Brown is better at this stage in their careers. BA hasn't had a chance to be a true #1 anywhere. They also have different skillsets. It may be more appropriate to compare Brown to Jefferson or Deebo. At least what Deebo does for our offense (not statistics wise).

Originally posted by Silky:
Why are we debating BA and Brown? Brown is better at this stage in their careers. BA hasn't had a chance to be a true #1 anywhere. They also have different skillsets. It may be more appropriate to compare Brown to Jefferson or Deebo. At least what Deebo does for our offense (not statistics wise).

BA is our #1, has been for a while now
referring to target share, and receivers

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by hubbyt:
Im actually not trying to convince you. Once people make up their mind about something thats usually it. But i guess I will give it a try.

WR A:
346 catches, 5,541 yds, 42 tds

WR B:
239 catches, 3,470 yds, 23 tds

Who are you taking? I love BA and I hope he eats PHI alive. Brown does have 1 extra season but you cant possibly not see the difference here in production. You think he did all of that by not being able to separate?

Brown has an elite frame, and I think that helped him enter the league, and dominate, sooner
you can kinda just throw the ball up to him and you put the D in a tough spot
most WRs and BA is one, need a year or two to learn the craft of the position. but I don't say because BA took longer to develop, he's any less of a WR today, you are looking more at career production, I am talking about who is better now

Brown is elite in the redzone, downfield, and has a big frame. I'd rather have a team of BAs tho, from a QB perspective, you want open receivers, BA is better at getting open right now. I may be biased tho

it's a good convo

I'm biased too lol but its not like AJ Brown is some old man on the downside of his career. In 5 years Aiyuk still wont catch him in production. Barring injury im pretty certain of that. Right now today AJ Brown is an all pro WR and we hope that Aiyuk can get there one day. Brown is that right now in the present

Originally posted by hubbyt:
I'm biased too lol but its not like AJ Brown is some old man on the downside of his career. In 5 years Aiyuk still wont catch him in production. Barring injury im pretty certain of that. Right now today AJ Brown is an all pro WR and we hope that Aiyuk cant get there one day. Brown is that right now in the present

You're on a 49ers fan message board, lol.

Last season, even if Brock was healthy, it seemed like the Eagles were a better team, would have won regardless. No one knows for sure.

This season, the teams seem more similar and that makes it a close game.
Eagles have the better OLINE, QB (+ experience), better WRs(2) than the 49ers.
They also make better in-game adjustments, proven week after week, come from behind wins are exactly that.

The 49ers so far don't have any great comeback wins lately, and the ones they lost, adjustments were very minimal.
Bottom line: the only way 49ers win is by starting fast, scoring early, and go past 30 points in 2-3 quarters.
Tough game, Eagles are a very good team.

Originally posted by hubbyt:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by hubbyt:
Which is why I referenced Browns years with the Titans. They were just as run heavy with a worse QB and overall worse offense yet Brown produced.

produced what exactly, he was 63-869-5 his last year in TEN
you are saying he's better than BA, I disagree, it's a matter of preference,
you have yet to convince me, If I want a contested catch or broken tackle I'll take AJ, if I want someone I can feed the ball in the pass game, and separation, I'll take BA.
I like separation, I like guys who can cook their matchup, and give the QB nice layup throws, BA is better at that

Im actually not trying to convince you. Once people make up their mind about something thats usually it. But i guess I will give it a try.

WR A:
346 catches, 5,541 yds, 42 tds

WR B:
239 catches, 3,470 yds, 23 tds

Who are you taking? I love BA and I hope he eats PHI alive. Brown does have 1 extra season but you cant possibly not see the difference here in production. You think he did all of that by not being able to separate?

Brown beats BA in TD% and YPR but not by much. BA beats Brown in first down % and reception % but not by much. BA also has a lower drop %.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by hubbyt:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by hubbyt:
Which is why I referenced Browns years with the Titans. They were just as run heavy with a worse QB and overall worse offense yet Brown produced.

produced what exactly, he was 63-869-5 his last year in TEN
you are saying he's better than BA, I disagree, it's a matter of preference,
you have yet to convince me, If I want a contested catch or broken tackle I'll take AJ, if I want someone I can feed the ball in the pass game, and separation, I'll take BA.
I like separation, I like guys who can cook their matchup, and give the QB nice layup throws, BA is better at that

Im actually not trying to convince you. Once people make up their mind about something thats usually it. But i guess I will give it a try.

WR A:
346 catches, 5,541 yds, 42 tds

WR B:
239 catches, 3,470 yds, 23 tds

Who are you taking? I love BA and I hope he eats PHI alive. Brown does have 1 extra season but you cant possibly not see the difference here in production. You think he did all of that by not being able to separate?

Brown beats BA in TD% and YPR but not by much. BA beats Brown in first down % and reception % but not by much. BA also has a lower drop %.

BA is our dude, Brown is the enemy. End of story.

As evenly as the teams are matched, I believe the three day body recovery advantage, on top of the back-to-back games wherein Philly had to dig deep to comeback will be a big deal late in the game… on top of overall roster health.

In other words… no excuses. This game is set up for a W.

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
As evenly as the teams are matched, I believe the three day body recovery advantage, on top of the back-to-back games wherein Philly had to dig deep to comeback will be a big deal late in the game… on top of overall roster health.

In other words… no excuses. This game is set up for a W.

Same logic here.

Tortoise vs the Hare game to me. Kyle runs runs runs up scores early and Philly just keeps grinding along with their tush push.

Regarding the tushy pushy, can we line up in a similar formation? Say we stack Warner over Hargrave and AA and have Greenlaw and someone else push Warner? Or is that highly illegal and dangerous? Or too risky

Originally posted by Silky:
Regarding the tushy pushy, can we line up in a similar formation? Say we stack Warner over Hargrave and AA and have Greenlaw and someone else push Warner? Or is that highly illegal and dangerous? Or too risky

You can do that if you want. It won't help at all because the offense controls where ball goes so you'd have to get lucky that you're pushing back right where they are.

It's highly unlikely to be stopped if they just need a yard. Isn't s**t you can do about it It is what it is

how tf is this NOT a prime time game.

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
As evenly as the teams are matched, I believe the three day body recovery advantage, on top of the back-to-back games wherein Philly had to dig deep to comeback will be a big deal late in the game… on top of overall roster health.

In other words… no excuses. This game is set up for a W.

Phillys starters have played a ton of snaps the last three weeks. I think 90+ Snaps for their defensive guys against the bills and 80+ for their defensive starters against the chiefs. Lol

i think the rest is going to be a major factor.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Just when it seemed like the #49ers were getting perfectly healthy, they end up having one of their key starters pop up on the injury report. 👇🏽 https://t.co/6pYIJQ9dDn

— Jose Sanchez III (@JSanchezFN) November 30, 2023

He has to play. All hands on deck. This is the Eagles game.