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49ERS vs RAVENS Pregame Thread - 2023 Season Week 16

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49ERS vs RAVENS Pregame Thread - 2023 Season Week 16

Dec 21, 2023 at 8:52 AM
  • thl408
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by tankle104:

for the folks who know a lot more about how this will impact the ravens than I do, any takes on how this gives us an advantage?


Nice! Get ready for an even heavier dose of 21. That second tweet really stands out and plays into the hands of why the 49ers love 21 personnel, its versitility. If they want to treat CMC like a RB, which they should (3 LBs), then throw the ball. When the 49ers have some success throwing, perhaps BAL puts in a third CB instead of a third LB, then run the ball. Amazing that BAL's defense has only faced five snaps against 21 personnel all season. Their scout team has to learn a new offense this week.

That seems unconscionable. 5 snaps? All year? And we're in Week 16?

I swear there's going to be a shift back to fullbacks being used in offenses. The league flows back and forth regarding offense/defense philosophy. For awhile now, the emphasis has been on getting rangy LBs that can cover, and prioritizing the slot CB, making the SAM LB some dude that barely gets snaps. Nowadays the nickel CB is more of a starter than the SAM LB. I predict that at some point in the next five years, it's going to swing back towards more running between the tackles, with a fullback, and less 3WRs so often. And if teams don't want a fullback, then a second TE.
Dec 21, 2023 at 9:02 AM
SF 31-17. this team is not f**king around
Dec 21, 2023 at 9:09 AM
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by titan:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I wouldn't mind seeing the Niners win a tight game. Maybe a TD drive in the 4th quarter or a game winning FG. We haven't had either of those this year. It's fun for us fans to watch blowouts but in the playoffs it could help if they had experience winning a close game. They haven't done that this year.

If Moody kicks a FG to win, Brock would definitely be out of the MVP race. 😂

Not if he played a good game.

They don't give a rats a$$ the haters just want Purdy to fail. They'll thrown in Josh Allen next week if Lamar has a bad game.
Dec 21, 2023 at 9:22 AM
Smash them, trash them, embarrass them, smother them, fry them, eat them.

Lfg haha
Dec 21, 2023 at 9:31 AM
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Originally posted by Montana:
Smash them, trash them, embarrass them, smother them, fry them, eat them.

Lfg haha

Dec 21, 2023 at 9:35 AM
Originally posted by YACBros85:
I wonder how much pre snap motion the ravens defense has faced this season?

I imagine a majority of that came against the rams. It seemed to be successful.
Dec 21, 2023 at 9:37 AM
Originally posted by Chance:
Well yeah, but it doesn't matter about who those teams are now VS a decade ago or two decades ago (certainly the Ravens have fielded many teams since 2000) The difference is that we're the most different team than we've been since the mid 90s. We're no longer the team that's going to grind a close contest with every team we play, a team who's success is predicated on defense/running the ball/controlling the clock. Now we're the guys who have an explosive offense at our disposal, who can drop 40 on the best defenses, that can win games when our own defense struggles. We have t had an offense like this since Steve Young was our QB, so while this may be a close contest, don't be shocked if we drop 40 on these guys and wipe the mat with them. We got a roster full of really bad dudes and a MVP at QB.

This is how I feel. We aren't the same team where we HAVE to play mistake free ball have a chance at beating good teams. I always wished we never have to play like that cause mistakes always happen like that in this time of the year and playoffs and we never had good enough qb to overcome it.

this offense is so good that if the OTHER TEAM makes a mistake, it's ridiculously hard for them to keep up with us.
Dec 21, 2023 at 9:40 AM
Originally posted by thl408:
I swear there's going to be a shift back to fullbacks being used in offenses. The league flows back and forth regarding offense/defense philosophy. For awhile now, the emphasis has been on getting rangy LBs that can cover, and prioritizing the slot CB, making the SAM LB some dude that barely gets snaps. Nowadays the nickel CB is more of a starter than the SAM LB. I predict that at some point in the next five years, it's going to swing back towards more running between the tackles, with a fullback, and less 3WRs so often. And if teams don't want a fullback, then a second TE.

I feel like it shifts like that because after a majority of teams build their team for X - the best way to beat them is to build your team for Y. So a majority of teams are at a disadvantage when trying to cover you, personnel wise.
Dec 21, 2023 at 9:41 AM
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Chance:
Well yeah, but it doesn't matter about who those teams are now VS a decade ago or two decades ago (certainly the Ravens have fielded many teams since 2000) The difference is that we're the most different team than we've been since the mid 90s. We're no longer the team that's going to grind a close contest with every team we play, a team who's success is predicated on defense/running the ball/controlling the clock. Now we're the guys who have an explosive offense at our disposal, who can drop 40 on the best defenses, that can win games when our own defense struggles. We have t had an offense like this since Steve Young was our QB, so while this may be a close contest, don't be shocked if we drop 40 on these guys and wipe the mat with them. We got a roster full of really bad dudes and a MVP at QB.

This is how I feel. We aren't the same team where we HAVE to play mistake free ball have a chance at beating good teams. I always wished we never have to play like that cause mistakes always happen like that in this time of the year and playoffs and we never had good enough qb to overcome it.

this offense is so good that if the OTHER TEAM makes a mistake, it's ridiculously hard for them to keep up with us.

Yep, Philly had 0 turnovers and we still put up 42 in their house.
Dec 21, 2023 at 9:44 AM
Wow, please keep talking!


love a pissed off 49ers squad
Dec 21, 2023 at 9:47 AM
gonna be straight up, the only thing that worries me is lamar's ability to run the rock as if he's raheem mostert killing em with angles, it's really fun to watch him play

niners defense is going to have their hands completely full on sunday, they BETTER fix their tackling.
Dec 21, 2023 at 9:50 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Wow, please keep talking!


love a pissed off 49ers squad

Pretty sure this is missing a lot more context but he is overrated. Their CBs are opportunistic but sloppy. They can be beat.

Roquan is every bit as good as Warner and Kyle Hamilton might be the best safety in football. Those two really make that defense elite.
Dec 21, 2023 at 9:52 AM
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Wow, please keep talking!


love a pissed off 49ers squad

Pretty sure this is missing a lot more context but he is overrated. Their CBs are opportunistic but sloppy. They can be beat.

Roquan is every bit as good as Warner and Kyle Hamilton might be the best safety in football. Those two really make that defense elite.

Well he was just joking around with that comment, but might as well use it for any time of motivation.
Dec 21, 2023 at 9:53 AM
  • thl408
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by thl408:
I swear there's going to be a shift back to fullbacks being used in offenses. The league flows back and forth regarding offense/defense philosophy. For awhile now, the emphasis has been on getting rangy LBs that can cover, and prioritizing the slot CB, making the SAM LB some dude that barely gets snaps. Nowadays the nickel CB is more of a starter than the SAM LB. I predict that at some point in the next five years, it's going to swing back towards more running between the tackles, with a fullback, and less 3WRs so often. And if teams don't want a fullback, then a second TE.

I feel like it shifts like that because after a majority of teams build their team for X - the best way to beat them is to build your team for Y. So a majority of teams are at a disadvantage when trying to cover you, personnel wise.

I think offenses shift first then defense reacts. We can take it back to when the WCO started to spread in the early 1990s. Defenses started to play more Cover2 to put five underneath zone defenders to combat the WCO short passing. Offenses started to really pound the rock with a RB (early 2000s had many productive RBs). Defenses started to put 8 in the box (Seattle Cover3 in 2010s). Offenses started to hit the areas behind the LBs with crossers (Kyle's outside zone scheme). Defenses go Quarters (two safeties back) to take way the intermediate crossers. Kyle adjusts by running more between the tackles. And here we are.

If the 49ers win a SB while using so much 21, let's see whether other teams try to replicate that. Of course, it's still about talent and being able to coach it.
Dec 21, 2023 at 9:59 AM
Originally posted by Montana:
Smash them, trash them, embarrass them, smother them, fry them, eat them.

Lfg haha
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