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SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS vs BALTIMORE RAVENS - 2023 Season Game 15
SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS vs BALTIMORE RAVENS - 2023 Season Game 15
Dec 26, 2023 at 11:51 AM
- bud49
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Michah Parson talking about Brock. Well i got news for him and cowboys if the Rams get in they can beat both the Cowboys and the Eagles no matter where it is played And then Brock won't have to worry about neither of them.
Dec 26, 2023 at 11:52 AM
- maximusdecimus
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Sucks that so much of our success rests with a 35 year old OL'man.
If Trent goes out for any extended amount of time stick a fork in our SB dreams.
If Trent goes out for any extended amount of time stick a fork in our SB dreams.
Dec 26, 2023 at 11:53 AM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Hawaii49er:
Very unlike Purdy on the first Int. Maybe his fault on the screen pass as well, that's debatable.
I knew missing 3rd and Jauan was going to be huge. We didn't look the same on offense.
Give Ravens credit, they flew across the country and absolutely demolished us. They were the hungrier team. We looked slow (except our WR's and Kittle) and once we were getting punched in the mouth, we turned into Glass Joe. Missed tackles and penalties killed us. We aren't built to come back from behind with our O-LIne. This was a tough loss. Only one game but we went into this as one of the teams to beat but the Ravens made us look like pretenders.
The biggest issue I see with this team and its been going on for awhile. If teams can get a sizable lead then their defenses pin their ears back and go after this OL hard and inevitably the OL ends up collapsing.
Yup. Feeling rushed, pressured, feeling the need to play hero ball, throwing to clearly covered receivers, into the defense arms, pulling your QB, etc. all stems from the same thing...not trusting what's in front of you/the QB.
Ultimately it's still up to Brock to make better decisions but this is what happens to every QB when things in front of them fall apart (or they think it will). MVP or not.
Not every negative play is because of spotty line play but the correlation is easy to see...with any QB, no matter how mobile they are or how much you feel a QB should transcend.
Dec 26, 2023 at 11:54 AM
- Silky
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We'll be fine. F-I-N-E as Aaron Rodgers once said
Dec 26, 2023 at 11:54 AM
- maximusdecimus
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How the hell are we gonna get to the super bowl with that worse than patch work offensive line? Seems like a lot of people are choosing to ignore just how F'ed our O line is.
Dec 26, 2023 at 11:55 AM
- Kolohe
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Originally posted by Silky:
I have a feeling McDaniels and the Dolphins will avenge us. I just think we were tired, banged up, and had a poor game plan against the Ravens. I still don't think they're that good. Like they're good but that was a fluke. Dolphins will move the ball on them
I mean it doesn't do them any good since the 9ers are in different conferences.
Dec 26, 2023 at 11:56 AM
- bud49
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Look at this way. The Ravens got 5TO's and still only beat this team by 14 points. We beat the Eagles and the Cowboys by a lot more than that and did not have near the TO margin the Ravens had on us.
Dec 26, 2023 at 11:56 AM
- HONEYBADGER
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Originally posted by Silky:
I have a feeling McDaniels and the Dolphins will avenge us. I just think we were tired, banged up, and had a poor game plan against the Ravens. I still don't think they're that good. Like they're good but that was a fluke. Dolphins will move the ball on them
Dolphins Oline is superior to ours
They also have the best deep ball receiver in the league.
I give them a better chance against the Ravens that we had
Dec 26, 2023 at 11:59 AM
- Heroism
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As a football fan who genuinely enjoys good football in addition to being a 49ers' fan, it was refreshing to see another organization that puts a premium on LB play. You could feel the speed and tenacity of their LBs on the field against the Niners. They were all over the place rallying to tackles and stopping our guys in their tracks. I was the biggest Roquan aka baby P-Willy fan coming out of the draft, so I'm glad to see to balling on a real team. The other dude Queen is a baller as well.
They were designed to stop this offense. Fortunately for the Niners, very few teams build their defense from the middle out
They were designed to stop this offense. Fortunately for the Niners, very few teams build their defense from the middle out
[ Edited by Heroism on Dec 26, 2023 at 12:00 PM ]
Dec 26, 2023 at 11:59 AM
- YACBros85
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Hawaii49er:
Very unlike Purdy on the first Int. Maybe his fault on the screen pass as well, that's debatable.
I knew missing 3rd and Jauan was going to be huge. We didn't look the same on offense.
Give Ravens credit, they flew across the country and absolutely demolished us. They were the hungrier team. We looked slow (except our WR's and Kittle) and once we were getting punched in the mouth, we turned into Glass Joe. Missed tackles and penalties killed us. We aren't built to come back from behind with our O-LIne. This was a tough loss. Only one game but we went into this as one of the teams to beat but the Ravens made us look like pretenders.
The biggest issue I see with this team and its been going on for awhile. If teams can get a sizable lead then their defenses pin their ears back and go after this OL hard and inevitably the OL ends up collapsing.
Yup. Feeling rushed, pressured, feeling the need to play hero ball, throwing to clearly covered receivers, into the defense arms, pulling your QB, etc. all stems from the same thing...not trusting what's in front of you/the QB.
Ultimately it's still up to Brock to make better decisions but this is what happens to every QB when things in front of them fall apart (or they think it will). MVP or not.
Not every negative play is because of spotty line play but the correlation is easy to see...with any QB, no matter how mobile they are or how much you feel a QB should transcend.
I don't think it was so much the pressure that the O line was giving up. Brock has dealt with that plenty and has come out the other end clean as a whistle. The real issue imo was the ravens coverage. They were so sticky in coverage that they were getting piggy back rides from our receivers before the ball arrived.
I know this is one example but I witnessed this throughout most of the game.
[ Edited by YACBros85 on Dec 26, 2023 at 11:59 AM ]
Dec 26, 2023 at 12:01 PM
- mcwoot
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
I don't think it was so much the pressure that the O line was giving up. Brock has dealt with that plenty and has come out the other end clean as a whistle. The real issue imo was the ravens coverage. They were so sticky in coverage that they were getting piggy back rides from our receivers before the ball arrived.
I know this is one example but I witnessed this throughout most of the game.
Did these guys not attend the Wilks School of Ten Yard Cushion?
Dec 26, 2023 at 12:01 PM
- 49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Hawaii49er:
Very unlike Purdy on the first Int. Maybe his fault on the screen pass as well, that's debatable.
I knew missing 3rd and Jauan was going to be huge. We didn't look the same on offense.
Give Ravens credit, they flew across the country and absolutely demolished us. They were the hungrier team. We looked slow (except our WR's and Kittle) and once we were getting punched in the mouth, we turned into Glass Joe. Missed tackles and penalties killed us. We aren't built to come back from behind with our O-LIne. This was a tough loss. Only one game but we went into this as one of the teams to beat but the Ravens made us look like pretenders.
The biggest issue I see with this team and its been going on for awhile. If teams can get a sizable lead then their defenses pin their ears back and go after this OL hard and inevitably the OL ends up collapsing.
Yup. Feeling rushed, pressured, feeling the need to play hero ball, throwing to clearly covered receivers, into the defense arms, pulling your QB, etc. all stems from the same thing...not trusting what's in front of you/the QB.
Ultimately it's still up to Brock to make better decisions but this is what happens to every QB when things in front of them fall apart (or they think it will). MVP or not.
Not every negative play is because of spotty line play but the correlation is easy to see...with any QB, no matter how mobile they are or how much you feel a QB should transcend.
I don't think it was so much the pressure that the O line was giving up. Brock has dealt with that plenty and has come out the other end clean as a whistle. The real issue imo was the ravens coverage. They were so sticky in coverage that they were getting piggy back rides from our receivers before the ball arrived.
I know this is one example but I witnessed this throughout most of the game.
It's good coverage, if your head is turned and playing the ball in air, they tend not to penalize that
you don't want that ball thrown, I believe this was one of the INTs, he's about to tip it to 14 if I am not mistaken.
Dec 26, 2023 at 12:03 PM
- YACBros85
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Hawaii49er:
Very unlike Purdy on the first Int. Maybe his fault on the screen pass as well, that's debatable.
I knew missing 3rd and Jauan was going to be huge. We didn't look the same on offense.
Give Ravens credit, they flew across the country and absolutely demolished us. They were the hungrier team. We looked slow (except our WR's and Kittle) and once we were getting punched in the mouth, we turned into Glass Joe. Missed tackles and penalties killed us. We aren't built to come back from behind with our O-LIne. This was a tough loss. Only one game but we went into this as one of the teams to beat but the Ravens made us look like pretenders.
The biggest issue I see with this team and its been going on for awhile. If teams can get a sizable lead then their defenses pin their ears back and go after this OL hard and inevitably the OL ends up collapsing.
Yup. Feeling rushed, pressured, feeling the need to play hero ball, throwing to clearly covered receivers, into the defense arms, pulling your QB, etc. all stems from the same thing...not trusting what's in front of you/the QB.
Ultimately it's still up to Brock to make better decisions but this is what happens to every QB when things in front of them fall apart (or they think it will). MVP or not.
Not every negative play is because of spotty line play but the correlation is easy to see...with any QB, no matter how mobile they are or how much you feel a QB should transcend.
I don't think it was so much the pressure that the O line was giving up. Brock has dealt with that plenty and has come out the other end clean as a whistle. The real issue imo was the ravens coverage. They were so sticky in coverage that they were getting piggy back rides from our receivers before the ball arrived.
I know this is one example but I witnessed this throughout most of the game.
It's good coverage, if your head is turned and playing the ball in air, they tend not to penalize that
you don't want that ball thrown, I believe this was one of the INTs, he's about to tip it to 14 if I am not mistaken.
Even if you are draped on top of the guys back?
Dec 26, 2023 at 12:04 PM
- YACBros85
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I am also not trying to exempt Brock from any blame.
Dec 26, 2023 at 12:05 PM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Hawaii49er:
Very unlike Purdy on the first Int. Maybe his fault on the screen pass as well, that's debatable.
I knew missing 3rd and Jauan was going to be huge. We didn't look the same on offense.
Give Ravens credit, they flew across the country and absolutely demolished us. They were the hungrier team. We looked slow (except our WR's and Kittle) and once we were getting punched in the mouth, we turned into Glass Joe. Missed tackles and penalties killed us. We aren't built to come back from behind with our O-LIne. This was a tough loss. Only one game but we went into this as one of the teams to beat but the Ravens made us look like pretenders.
The biggest issue I see with this team and its been going on for awhile. If teams can get a sizable lead then their defenses pin their ears back and go after this OL hard and inevitably the OL ends up collapsing.
Yup. Feeling rushed, pressured, feeling the need to play hero ball, throwing to clearly covered receivers, into the defense arms, pulling your QB, etc. all stems from the same thing...not trusting what's in front of you/the QB.
Ultimately it's still up to Brock to make better decisions but this is what happens to every QB when things in front of them fall apart (or they think it will). MVP or not.
Not every negative play is because of spotty line play but the correlation is easy to see...with any QB, no matter how mobile they are or how much you feel a QB should transcend.
I don't think it was so much the pressure that the O line was giving up. Brock has dealt with that plenty and has come out the other end clean as a whistle. The real issue imo was the ravens coverage. They were so sticky in coverage that they were getting piggy back rides from our receivers before the ball arrived.
I know this is one example but I witnessed this throughout most of the game.
I agree it wasn't every time. He seemed to put extra pressure on himself to make a play too and threw a number of passes like this with receivers completely covered up...to Kittle numerous times, Juice, etc. He pressed for sure, IMHO. He's going to see the check downs were open all day though IIRC.