49ERS vs Packers Pregame Thread - 2023 Season Divisional Round

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by DrEll:
No it wasn't. The Cowboys beat them in the NFCC game the following week. What happened to us is exactly what happened to Dallas last week. You had a young team coming into town that no took serious and they surprised us.

if the Niners had played the game right we would have won and probably go on to win the SB that year.

Yea they went on to beat us in every matchup for the next two seasons as well. We may have 'taken them lightly' but they were still a better team. They dominated both lines of scrimmage in every one of those matchups… which was something they couldn't do against Dallas, especially in Dallas. They had the better QB, better running backs, OL, DL, secondary, and coaching staff.

This is a pointless argument in the context of the current situation, but that 95 game was not a fluke victory.

I've always felt like those 96+ teams were shells of their former selves. They might of had a lot of regular season wins but got slapped up in the playoffs.

In hindsight, we no longer had elite coaching (all the best coaches had been poached and Mariiucci was nothing special, one dimensional offense (for the most part), and an aging over the top defense.

they still won a lot of games but didn't really come close to winning any Super Bowls.

Also had a weak NFC-W (old version) that weren't much competition, apart from the Panthers for a couple seasons, and falsely inflated our record…Rams, Saints and Falcons were complete trash and a guaranteed 6 wins

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Patton:
What do you make of this?

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8pB7aBb/

From the stats I saw, Jordan Love hasn't been great against zone coverage this season. He looked good against zone coverage in the DAL game but DAL tried to run a scheme they don't nomally run. Dude also cherry picked games that Brock threw INT's in.

Agree, but his take on our run defense seems right.

AA missing five games had a big impact on those stats

That's true.

That's right.

We are going to see our defense at their best now that AA is back. So many fans undervalue him. He will gobble up multiple o lineman, get constant pressure from the interior, great run blocking, and clear up the gaps for the linebackers to make actual plays and not get stuck on blocks.

Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:
Also had a weak NFC-W (old version) that weren't much competition, apart from the Panthers for a couple seasons, and falsely inflated our record…Rams, Saints and Falcons were complete trash and a guaranteed 6 wins

That's right. Those matchups were basically the reverse of what we've seen in the Harb/Kyle era where the Packers were rolling through a weak division and ended up running into more well rounded and physically dominant teams.

Originally posted by tankle104:
We are going to see our defense at their best now that AA is back. So many fans undervalue him. He will gobble up multiple o lineman, get constant pressure from the interior, great run blocking, and clear up the gaps for the linebackers to make actual plays and not get stuck on blocks.

I have hope that our defense will be very good tomorrow being fresh, but our run D has been pretty suspect all season including when AA was in the lineup. From an EPA/play perspective it's actually been better in the time AA was out I believe.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
We are going to see our defense at their best now that AA is back. So many fans undervalue him. He will gobble up multiple o lineman, get constant pressure from the interior, great run blocking, and clear up the gaps for the linebackers to make actual plays and not get stuck on blocks.

I have hope that our defense will be very good tomorrow being fresh, but our run D has been pretty suspect all season including when AA was in the lineup. From an EPA/play perspective it's actually been better in the time AA was out I believe.

Our pass rush wasn't nearly as impactful without him (specifically from the interior). I look more so at what we did after the bye until he was out with injury, because that's when I think wilks really figured out how to run the defense. The first half of the season was solid D but a lot of hit and miss calls.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
He was in the SB last season, and playoffs 3 straight. He's 25. He doesn't qualify?

Meh you could have said that about Goff when he was in LA as well.

overall his play is based more off a gimmicky offense and just chucking it deep hoping AJ/smith catch it.

it will come down to who's calling the plays in Philly going forward.

Goff's not bad, but Hurts is better imo.

Hurts is still the same guy who was benched for Tua at Bama. Still struggling with processing and reading defenses, holds the ball too long, panics and goes into hero ball mode, which he isn't great at. If they do away with that butt shove play, his value decreases even further. The fact that the Eagles paid him a quarter of a billion dollars is hilarious to me. It doesn't hit them hard for a couple of years, but they are stuck with him because his dead money cap hit is significant. He's more of a great athlete playing quarterback than a great quarterback who is athletic. If they don't get the right OC and some kind of quarterback whisperer, he is toast.

Wow! Rumors that Andy Reid may retire after this year. Crazy

Originally posted by tankle104:
Wow! Rumors that Andy Reid may retire after this year. Crazy

Great, time for the NFL to rig him a ring

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
it may be semantics ... My point/post is that they are going to bait Purdy on this same defensive play calling.

and i hope savage's aggressiveness leaves things open down field if Purdy can recognize it

Bait what?? that's my point of this whole little debate.

savage didn't bait Dak into throwing it there….that WR was never suppose to be the read and wasn't open… If he threw it to the correct read, like he's suppose to, it's a first down and more all day. They ran a fire zone blitz and he's an underneath defender while the blitz came. He didn't bait s**t, he ran to his spot as a defender and Dak threw him the ball.

it was 100% on Dak and being horrible at processing/reading a defensive play call that wasn't that difficult.

The only thing that Savage did was not drop the ball or trip over his own feet on the way to the endzone.

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Wow! Rumors that Andy Reid may retire after this year. Crazy

Great, time for the NFL to rig him a ring

They aren't beating Buffalo. Lol

ill ride with my off season prediction of bills vs 49ers until it's not possible. I'm super curious how mahommes does in his first road playoff game. I figure he will play well, per usual, but not having that KC home field advantage is big.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
it may be semantics ... My point/post is that they are going to bait Purdy on this same defensive play calling.

and i hope savage's aggressiveness leaves things open down field if Purdy can recognize it

Bait what?? that's my point of this whole little debate.

savage didn't bait Dak into throwing it there….that WR was never suppose to be the read and wasn't open… If he threw it to the correct read, like he's suppose to, it's a first down and more all day. They ran a fire zone blitz and he's an underneath defender while the blitz came. He didn't bait s**t, he ran to his spot as a defender and Dak threw him the ball.

it was 100% on Dak and being horrible at processing/reading a defensive play call that wasn't that difficult.

The only thing that Savage did was not drop the ball or trip over his own feet on the way to the endzone.

For real. GB's defense is 2nd to last in the league with 7 INT's. People acting like dude is a ballhawk or something.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
it may be semantics ... My point/post is that they are going to bait Purdy on this same defensive play calling.

and i hope savage's aggressiveness leaves things open down field if Purdy can recognize it

Bait what?? that's my point of this whole little debate.

savage didn't bait Dak into throwing it there….that WR was never suppose to be the read and wasn't open… If he threw it to the correct read, like he's suppose to, it's a first down and more all day. They ran a fire zone blitz and he's an underneath defender while the blitz came. He didn't bait s**t, he ran to his spot as a defender and Dak threw him the ball.

it was 100% on Dak and being horrible at processing/reading a defensive play call that wasn't that difficult.

The only thing that Savage did was not drop the ball or trip over his own feet on the way to the endzone.

For real. GB's defense is 2nd to last in the league with 7 INT's. People acting like dude is a ballhawk or something.

Who's saying that lol

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
it may be semantics ... My point/post is that they are going to bait Purdy on this same defensive play calling.

and i hope savage's aggressiveness leaves things open down field if Purdy can recognize it

Bait what?? that's my point of this whole little debate.

savage didn't bait Dak into throwing it there….that WR was never suppose to be the read and wasn't open… If he threw it to the correct read, like he's suppose to, it's a first down and more all day. They ran a fire zone blitz and he's an underneath defender while the blitz came. He didn't bait s**t, he ran to his spot as a defender and Dak threw him the ball.

it was 100% on Dak and being horrible at processing/reading a defensive play call that wasn't that difficult.

The only thing that Savage did was not drop the ball or trip over his own feet on the way to the endzone.

For real. GB's defense is 2nd to last in the league with 7 INT's. People acting like dude is a ballhawk or something.

Who's saying that lol

Whoever was making the argument that it was Darnell making some amazing play and that it wasn't Dak just s**tting the bed on that play.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Whoever was making the argument that it was Darnell making some amazing play and that it wasn't Dak just s**tting the bed on that play.

The defense saw that play a million times on film. Knew exactly what was coming. That was obvious.