49ERS vs Packers Pregame Thread - 2023 Season Divisional Round

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah, Lance was def presented with the opportunity to get a lot of playing time here - it's just bad luck that he kept getting injured. If he would of stayed healthy, he would be (possibly) finishing his second year of snaps rn.

we can differ about how he looked/what the coaches thought etc. but I think Kyle genuinely tried to get him reps. Bad luck and a roster with immediate expectations cut it all short. The team took a huge gamble on Lance and the plan for him had essentially no room for error, I blame that on Kyle, but it's all good. I think he did what he genuinely thought was best for the team at the time. I'd like to see Lance get reps with a team that isn't expecting to compete for a SB and see how he grows. I just don't think he will get that with DAL and honestly i don't want him to. Lol id like to cheer him on but I can't cheer for him in that uniform. Hahah

Another comparison that falls short for me simply because Love is and has been a visibly more talented player throwing the football. Lance's throwing talent is wildly overrated by some.

Yeah, when I think of arm talent, I think of darnold. I'm not talking about his overall play but he has a great arm in every way. I never cared for Lance. Never was big on his skill set. I think he's talented but nothing special, just my opinion. I will say that I thought lances throwing motion looked much better when he fixed his throwing motion.

honestly, idgaf about the running stuff. I like my qb to do what Brock does - excellent ability to avoid pressure but when he scrambles, he just buys time to throw down field. Every once in a while runs for a first down. I don't like my qb taking hits, that's what skill players are for. I like pure passers with mobility to scramble and buy time to throw it in a broken play.

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:

Originally posted by titan:
Rams would still be a tougher game for us vs GB from a familiarity and divisional game standpoint.
GB and TB are the games I see us having a higher chance of winning. Detroit will be our toughest game and Philly can possibly wake up anytime and could possibly have a good day.

Keep saying "familiarity" as if the Niners don't have any on the Rams as well, and arent 9-2 against them since 2019. They got some high skill position players on offense, but this isn't fantasy football. Overall, they're a mediocre team who benefited from playing terrible opponents to end the year. That defense would've gotten ran out of Levi's, EASILY

This take sounds like a fan that doesn't follow divisional playoff games.

Originally posted by BSofSF:
In 2019 we had the best team and we pounded our NFC opponents. I think we'll do the same this year. The difference will be that Purdy will pass better and make better decisions than Jimmy. (I am fully rooting for someone to knock out the Ravens -- we haven't shown we can handle that kind of threat.)

Could happen as soon as the divisional round. If HOU goes to BAL like I believe they will, CJ Stroud gives that team a real chance against the ravens.

Just read apparent LaFleur said Jaire wouldve went back to the game if needed so I'm assuming he should be good t ogo next week

Originally posted by tankle104:
I think some of loves stats are inflated because he's played a lot of crappy teams but love has simultaneously done some excellent things too. He proved me wrong, I was trashing him, but he's played good ball. He can only play who's infront of him and he's done the job at a high level for the most part.

i think he will struggle against our defense, I expect us to crush them. I think Kyle owns lefleur and I think our team has the upper hand cause of our vets. GB is young and you can confuse their guys easier because they haven't played much.

they have a lot of good young talent though. Kudos to love but I hope he blows against us. Hahaha

That sounds a bit like what has been said about Purdy - "he only has those good numbers because of all the weapons he has around him."

The bottom line is, he played who he played and did what he did. Few people knew much about him until yesterday. Now they are trying to figure out why he was so under the radar and they missed him.

Originally posted by titan:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:

Originally posted by titan:
Rams would still be a tougher game for us vs GB from a familiarity and divisional game standpoint.
GB and TB are the games I see us having a higher chance of winning. Detroit will be our toughest game and Philly can possibly wake up anytime and could possibly have a good day.

Keep saying "familiarity" as if the Niners don't have any on the Rams as well, and arent 9-2 against them since 2019. They got some high skill position players on offense, but this isn't fantasy football. Overall, they're a mediocre team who benefited from playing terrible opponents to end the year. That defense would've gotten ran out of Levi's, EASILY

This take sounds like a fan that doesn't follow divisional playoff games.

Divisional playoff games?

Rams were never a threat, I had to hear you guys and idiot media pundits compare them to the 2021 49ers and call them "the most dangerous team in the playoffs" for several weeks I would've rather seen them this weekend over Green Bay tbh

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I think some of loves stats are inflated because he's played a lot of crappy teams but love has simultaneously done some excellent things too. He proved me wrong, I was trashing him, but he's played good ball. He can only play who's infront of him and he's done the job at a high level for the most part.

i think he will struggle against our defense, I expect us to crush them. I think Kyle owns lefleur and I think our team has the upper hand cause of our vets. GB is young and you can confuse their guys easier because they haven't played much.

they have a lot of good young talent though. Kudos to love but I hope he blows against us. Hahaha

That sounds a bit like what has been said about Purdy - "he only has those good numbers because of all the weapons he has around him."

The bottom line is, he played who he played and did what he did. Few people knew much about him until yesterday. Now they are trying to figure out why he was so under the radar and they missed him.

agreed

i mean he even had a 3TD 0 int game aginst the Chiefs arguably one of the best defenses in the NFL

Originally posted by genus49:
Packers are ironically the toughest matchup a hosting team can get in the Divisonal round.

Love is playing great football whether in scheme or out of it. They're very balanced on offense and any game their best player can be one of 4-5 guys. They will be a tough test for the defense.

On defense they're clearly not as good but have some talented players who can wreck our drives on offense whether Gary, Jaire Alexander or Preston Smith.

Having said that we absolutely should win this game. Packers just unloaded on Dallas, any surprise of them being a legit threat in the playoffs is out the window. Dallas looked like they just expected to roll the Packers and got pushed around and b***hed up. Saw a clip of Alexander shoving Lamb early in the game and Lamb just took it and didn't even look back at Alexander. Think our WRs let something like that happen without retaliating? I doubt it. There is no reason for us to sleep on them and if we come out rested and ready to play our brand of football we are a better team. No excuses.

Get the win, stay healthy and get 2 more after it.

Good post.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I think some of loves stats are inflated because he's played a lot of crappy teams but love has simultaneously done some excellent things too. He proved me wrong, I was trashing him, but he's played good ball. He can only play who's infront of him and he's done the job at a high level for the most part.

i think he will struggle against our defense, I expect us to crush them. I think Kyle owns lefleur and I think our team has the upper hand cause of our vets. GB is young and you can confuse their guys easier because they haven't played much.

they have a lot of good young talent though. Kudos to love but I hope he blows against us. Hahaha

That sounds a bit like what has been said about Purdy - "he only has those good numbers because of all the weapons he has around him."

The bottom line is, he played who he played and did what he did. Few people knew much about him until yesterday. Now they are trying to figure out why he was so under the radar and they missed him.

I followed him all year cause I voiced how I thought he would suck. I've actually watched several packers games this year just to see how he was doing. He did much better than I thought he would, kudos to him. I still don't think he's all that. I think he's a good player but I think he's going to get wrecked against us.

It's well documented on here how I bashed him before the season and then have given him credit over the last two months.

Packers goose as good as cooked...

Too little rest across country and the first game upset hype won't be there...

1 thing not being considered is that our defense will always favor allowing offenses to dink and dunk down the field over giving up the deep ball. Those Jordan fadeaway shots are a no no against this defense. Can Love be methodical and stay on schedule? I am not so sure about that. Love is 8th lowest in the league at passes 9 yards or less. If the packers are going to find success through the passing game, they are going to have to be able to run the ball on us. Back when everyone was healthy we were top 5 in the league in YPA and YPG allowed. Everyone is healthy including Armstead and are ready to go.

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:

Originally posted by titan:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:

Originally posted by titan:
Rams would still be a tougher game for us vs GB from a familiarity and divisional game standpoint.
GB and TB are the games I see us having a higher chance of winning. Detroit will be our toughest game and Philly can possibly wake up anytime and could possibly have a good day.

Keep saying "familiarity" as if the Niners don't have any on the Rams as well, and arent 9-2 against them since 2019. They got some high skill position players on offense, but this isn't fantasy football. Overall, they're a mediocre team who benefited from playing terrible opponents to end the year. That defense would've gotten ran out of Levi's, EASILY

This take sounds like a fan that doesn't follow divisional playoff games.

Divisional playoff games?

Rams were never a threat, I had to hear you guys and idiot media pundits compare them to the 2021 49ers and call them "the most dangerous team in the playoffs" for several weeks I would've rather seen this weekend over Green Bay tbh

Easy to say now that they got bounce out the playoffs.

Originally posted by titan:
Easy to say now that they got bounce out the playoffs.

To be fair, he was saying this before the games… at least the part about the Rams being no serious threat.

Originally posted by tankle104:
Yeah, when I think of arm talent, I think of darnold. I'm not talking about his overall play but he has a great arm in every way. I never cared for Lance. Never was big on his skill set. I think he's talented but nothing special, just my opinion. I will say that I thought lances throwing motion looked much better when he fixed his throwing motion.

honestly, idgaf about the running stuff. I like my qb to do what Brock does - excellent ability to avoid pressure but when he scrambles, he just buys time to throw down field. Every once in a while runs for a first down. I don't like my qb taking hits, that's what skill players are for. I like pure passers with mobility to scramble and buy time to throw it in a broken play.

I still think Lance can play in the NFL, and as you said, he just needs reps. But from a physical standpoint, yeah, the Sam Darnold comp is a good one. Great arm but the processing speed needs work. My ideal physical QB is Steve Young. He could run and he could pass. But an ideal super bowl QB would be the Brady's and the Montana's -- they have a higher processing gear that they hit when the get into the playoffs and the Superbowl.

Originally posted by titan:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:

Originally posted by titan:

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:

Originally posted by titan:
Rams would still be a tougher game for us vs GB from a familiarity and divisional game standpoint.
GB and TB are the games I see us having a higher chance of winning. Detroit will be our toughest game and Philly can possibly wake up anytime and could possibly have a good day.

Keep saying "familiarity" as if the Niners don't have any on the Rams as well, and arent 9-2 against them since 2019. They got some high skill position players on offense, but this isn't fantasy football. Overall, they're a mediocre team who benefited from playing terrible opponents to end the year. That defense would've gotten ran out of Levi's, EASILY

This take sounds like a fan that doesn't follow divisional playoff games.

Divisional playoff games?

Rams were never a threat, I had to hear you guys and idiot media pundits compare them to the 2021 49ers and call them "the most dangerous team in the playoffs" for several weeks I would've rather seen this weekend over Green Bay tbh

Easy to say now that they got bounce out the playoffs.

I was saying that before they got bounced out. The rams offense barely surpassed the lions average points per game allowed and didn't even reach their own ppg scored. They can put up yards but they struggle to score TD's.