49ERS vs Packers Pregame Thread - 2023 Season Divisional Round

Originally posted by YACBros85:
1 thing not being considered is that our defense will always favor allowing offenses to dink and dunk down the field over giving up the deep ball. Those Jordan fadeaway shots are a no no against this defense. Can Love be methodical and stay on schedule? I am not so sure about that. Love is 8th lowest in the league at passes 9 yards or less. If the packers are going to find success through the passing game, they are going to have to be able to run the ball on us. Back when everyone was healthy we were top 5 in the league in YPA and YPG allowed. Everyone is healthy including Armstead and are ready to go.

Agree that our defense is - to a certain extent - is a bend but don't break defense. They are really tough in the redzone. Match that with a very explosive offense and you have the number 1 seed. Packers have to play a really perfect game to win and the 49ers have to make some mistakes and have a negative net turnover disadvantage for the Packers to win at Levi.

I was hoping that by blowing out the Cowboys.. the Packers would be coming into Santa Clara with false confidence, and we could punch them in the mouth and bring them back to reality...

But then you wonder about a team being so young...that they don't know any better. Coming in here with actual confidence. They have playmakers on offense... on defense we should be able to expose them BUT you worry about the savvy Vets like Darnell Savage at Safety... he straight up baited Dak on that INT to the house... Dak had no chance and I think Brock would have thrown that same INT.... but luckily for us, Kyle and Brock got to see that from him before our game..

Again we just have to punch them in the mouth early...and not turn the ball over on offense. We can afford a turnover if we jump out to a lead...but no early in the game or from behind, because that is all a young team like the Packers need to build off their momentum coming into this game.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
1 thing not being considered is that our defense will always favor allowing offenses to dink and dunk down the field over giving up the deep ball. Those Jordan fadeaway shots are a no no against this defense. Can Love be methodical and stay on schedule? I am not so sure about that. Love is 8th lowest in the league at passes 9 yards or less. If the packers are going to find success through the passing game, they are going to have to be able to run the ball on us. Back when everyone was healthy we were top 5 in the league in YPA and YPG allowed. Everyone is healthy including Armstead and are ready to go.

Agree that our defense is - to a certain extent - is a bend but don't break defense. They are really tough in the redzone. Match that with a very explosive offense and you have the number 1 seed. Packers have to play a really perfect game to win and the 49ers have to make some mistakes and have a negative net turnover disadvantage for the Packers to win at Levi.

Our defense actually is middle of the pack as far as redzone scoring. Packers D is around the same. The difference though is 49ers give up the 2nd lowest redzone opportunities per game, while the packers are 25th in that category.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Our defense actually is middle of the pack as far as redzone scoring. Packers D is around the same. The difference though is 49ers give up the 2nd lowest redzone opportunities per game, while the packers are 25th in that category.

as a great QB once said, Eff the Packers

Also, 49ers offense is the #1 redzone scoring offense in the league, while GB is middle of the pack.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Our defense actually is middle of the pack as far as redzone scoring. Packers D is around the same. The difference though is 49ers give up the 2nd lowest redzone opportunities per game, while the packers are 25th in that category.

as a great QB once said, Eff the Packers

you mean Kicker,, and a QB followed

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by joeknows:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by joeknows:
The idea that Love was allowed to play but Lance wasn't, simply isn't true.

Year 1 - Lance - 2nd String (starts 2 games); Love - 3rd String (doesn't even dress for a single game)
Year 2 - Lance - Starting QB (is injured during 2nd start); Love - 2nd String (started 1 game)
Year 3 - Lance 3rd String (leaves prior to season); Love - 2nd String (started 0 games)

I agree that Lance still has big time potential, but to say he wasn't given opportunity is inaccurate as far as I'm concerned.

He was very unlucky in that two very badly-timed injuries curtailed him, and then internal competition provided a very unexpected redundancy for him.

Love actually played a full year of football….as a starter. He was not good at the beginning of the year or in spot starts. He actually got to play meaningful football. The whole he developed on the bench s**t is dumb. He didn't improve until he got to play real football.

Lance got what 30 passing attempts as a starter here? Not backup s**t tossed into games with no meaningful reps with starters. I'm talking you're the guy all off season and get a year to play football. Lance got 30 passing attempts and 90% of those came in a rain storm. Dats it.

If I told people that Lance could be Jordan love at the beginning of this year, ya'll would have laughed and hated it. Now a bunch of you are afraid to play him this week lol.

What took place this yr backs up my stance that playing live football making young players who NEED NFL reps better…not sitting on the bench.

again I don't want to debate it all day…it's over and Brock is the man. That's my two cents on the subject.

Love played a year of football as a Year Four pro. Lance was presented with a year of football as a Year Two pro, but could not perform (not his fault).
Had Lance stayed healthy he would also have played a ton of snaps last season, even if he had a start like Love's. If Purdy had not defied all expectations Lance would have had further chances too.

In other words, the coaching staff here provided Lance with as much opportunity as they were able.

I agree that Lance needs reps, but you can't get them if a) you have a broken leg, or b) there is somebody clearly better than you on the roster.

Yeah, Lance was def presented with the opportunity to get a lot of playing time here - it's just bad luck that he kept getting injured. If he would of stayed healthy, he would be (possibly) finishing his second year of snaps rn.

we can differ about how he looked/what the coaches thought etc. but I think Kyle genuinely tried to get him reps. Bad luck and a roster with immediate expectations cut it all short. The team took a huge gamble on Lance and the plan for him had essentially no room for error, I blame that on Kyle, but it's all good. I think he did what he genuinely thought was best for the team at the time. I'd like to see Lance get reps with a team that isn't expecting to compete for a SB and see how he grows. I just don't think he will get that with DAL and honestly i don't want him to. Lol id like to cheer him on but I can't cheer for him in that uniform. Hahah

AGree, a big arm and great footspeed will help win *some* games - but not all games. What wins games for a QB is that QB's accuracy and processing speed and all the other intangibles that matter - leadership, poise, maturity, work ethic. With a QB like Brock, I think it makes it easier for a Coach to get the players needed to have a super bowl offense. You don't need the best running back, WR, or TE (but it helps). As long as you can give Purdy a good solid defense and a good solid set of offensive linemen - you don't need all stars at the offensive skill positions - and in fact - it will elevate the skill positions with a good OLine.

That being said, next year - I'd take a flyer on Mac Jones, Kyle Trask and David Mills - if they are available in free agency.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
1 thing not being considered is that our defense will always favor allowing offenses to dink and dunk down the field over giving up the deep ball. Those Jordan fadeaway shots are a no no against this defense. Can Love be methodical and stay on schedule? I am not so sure about that. Love is 8th lowest in the league at passes 9 yards or less. If the packers are going to find success through the passing game, they are going to have to be able to run the ball on us. Back when everyone was healthy we were top 5 in the league in YPA and YPG allowed. Everyone is healthy including Armstead and are ready to go.

Agree that our defense is - to a certain extent - is a bend but don't break defense. They are really tough in the redzone. Match that with a very explosive offense and you have the number 1 seed. Packers have to play a really perfect game to win and the 49ers have to make some mistakes and have a negative net turnover disadvantage for the Packers to win at Levi.

Our defense actually is middle of the pack as far as redzone scoring. Packers D is around the same. The difference though is 49ers give up the 2nd lowest redzone opportunities per game, while the packers are 25th in that category.

Agree, and to a certain extent the 49ers *offense* kind of inflates the 49er defensive numbers. I.e. that ball control offense does limit what the opposing offenses can do against this 49er defense. So while the 49ers defense is good - just how good exactly - I have some doubts.

Packer fan here getting a take on Niner fan's thoughts. Some of the chatter on the board is priceless. My two cents worth on the game (likely worth less than that given it's unsolicited):

- Niners favored for all the right reasons
- Packers playing with house money and have immense chemistry right now
- Three keys to the game as I see it are Zach Tom on Bosa, Kittle going off potentially and Packers DL versus CMC

Tom stonewalled Micah and has played pro-bowl level most of the year and so he gives Love a chance to not always be running for his life. Packers have been mostly trash against athletic TE's and Kittle on his A game could go off like Ferguson did yesterday. Lastly, although the Packers run defense has greatly improved as of late (specifically our middle run defense), Gary gets sucked in way too often and allows runs outside right for big chunks of yards. I see the latter two occurring this weekend as well.

Absolutely Love Purdy's story and happy to see him succeeding, however he has shown some questionable decision making at times during the Niners losing streak. If he does gift the ball a few times, that's really the only chance I see of the Packers hanging in there. That being said, with a healthy team, home field advantage and a superior roster I feel that this game will be something like 38 to 24 in favor of the Niners as they pound the ball and Kittle opens up the soft underbelly.

Good luck Saturday!

I fully expect poster '49ersvPackers' to be going off all week

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by BSofSF:
Does Jordan Love run much? I have barely seen him play other than yesterday. He looks athletic, but not really a runner.

He's def a pass first qb but he's more than athletic enough to run on you. It's something to account for, for sure. He isn't Lamar but he isn't Joe Flacco either. Lol I'd say he's above average at scrambling but he looks to pass first.

I haven't seen much of him, and I don't think he's better than Purdy, but I do respect Matt LaFleur. If Love sucked as a QB, Matt would have gotten a better one. So I think Matt has confidence in Love to win him some games and he's had chances to draft a QB high in the draft and hasn't. To me - Love's a QB you have to be wary about until proven otherwise.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
1 thing not being considered is that our defense will always favor allowing offenses to dink and dunk down the field over giving up the deep ball. Those Jordan fadeaway shots are a no no against this defense. Can Love be methodical and stay on schedule? I am not so sure about that. Love is 8th lowest in the league at passes 9 yards or less. If the packers are going to find success through the passing game, they are going to have to be able to run the ball on us. Back when everyone was healthy we were top 5 in the league in YPA and YPG allowed. Everyone is healthy including Armstead and are ready to go.

Agree that our defense is - to a certain extent - is a bend but don't break defense. They are really tough in the redzone. Match that with a very explosive offense and you have the number 1 seed. Packers have to play a really perfect game to win and the 49ers have to make some mistakes and have a negative net turnover disadvantage for the Packers to win at Levi.

Our defense actually is middle of the pack as far as redzone scoring. Packers D is around the same. The difference though is 49ers give up the 2nd lowest redzone opportunities per game, while the packers are 25th in that category.

Agree, and to a certain extent the 49ers *offense* kind of inflates the 49er defensive numbers. I.e. that ball control offense does limit what the opposing offenses can do against this 49er defense. So while the 49ers defense is good - just how good exactly - I have some doubts.

There is your answer. There 17th ranked defense is not going to be able to stop our 2nd ranked offense, especially our running game. We have the #1 redzone offense in the NFL and they have a middle of the pack redzone defense.

Originally posted by ritz126:
Just read apparent LaFleur said Jaire wouldve went back to the game if needed so I'm assuming he should be good t ogo next week

i read the opposite

https://dairylandexpress.com/posts/packers-concerning-jaire-alexander-injury-update-cowboys-win-01hm5cvck2cx

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by BSofSF:
Niners defense is 3rd in the league in allowing rushing yards per game, the Packers are 28th. Packers defense is 9th in allowing passing yards per game, Niners 14th. This is a game where we need to run the ball primarily to set up the play action and keep their passing attack on the sideline. They will probably try the same against us, but with the return of Arik Armstead to the interior defensive line, I like our chances to control possession and the tempo of the game.

Our defense gives up 8 more yards per game through the air than the packers. We give up 39 less rushing yards per game than they do.

We have a 1st place schedule. I think theirs is a 3rd place schedule.

Originally posted by awol36:

Originally posted by ritz126:
Just read apparent LaFleur said Jaire wouldve went back to the game if needed so I'm assuming he should be good t ogo next week

i read the opposite

https://dairylandexpress.com/posts/packers-concerning-jaire-alexander-injury-update-cowboys-win-01hm5cvck2cx

Wow, that's really going to make life difficult for Matt LaFleur this Saturday.