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Originally posted by scooterhd:
Jonah Jackson missed 5 games during the regular season. The Lions gave up 3, 2, 1, 5, and 3 sacks for an average of 2.8 sacks per game against without Jackson. In the 12 games with Jackson they averaged 1.42 sacks against.
Originally posted by BSofSF:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Stopped reading when said it was riding the company line
you think pressures mean nothing and are a made up stat. I don't
Stopped reading when you saw the number of words because you don't want to engage. I said sacks are better than pressures. We are settling for all this pressure BS because we're not getting sacks and we want to still be supportive of our guys. A pressure is better than nothing. A pressure can force the QB to make a mistake and throw a pick. I'll take a sack, or a strip sack, over a pressure any day of the week.
Originally posted by tankle104:damn furlow, SD & 4f6 caused this !
"it's almost because of Jimmy G and what people said about him". Hit that on the head.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by BSofSF:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Stopped reading when said it was riding the company line
you think pressures mean nothing and are a made up stat. I don't
Stopped reading when you saw the number of words because you don't want to engage. I said sacks are better than pressures. We are settling for all this pressure BS because we're not getting sacks and we want to still be supportive of our guys. A pressure is better than nothing. A pressure can force the QB to make a mistake and throw a pick. I'll take a sack, or a strip sack, over a pressure any day of the week.
I am sure that pressure has had a lot to do with leading the league in INT's. So its not nothing. We are 2nd among all playoff teams in giving up TD's when we get pressure. We are 3rd among all playoff teams in passer rating allowed when we get pressure. 3rd among all playoff teams in INT's when we get pressure. Sacks aren't everything. Speeding up a QB's proccessing is more important imo. It leads to mistakes.
Originally posted by tankle104:
"it's almost because of Jimmy G and what people said about him". Hit that on the head.
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by tankle104:
"it's almost because of Jimmy G and what people said about him". Hit that on the head.
I love Steve Young, but he's a hardcore homer. He would prop Jimmy up when he was on this roster. This Luke Skywalker stuff is a bit much…
Originally posted by njninersfan420:
I wish I could just fall asleep and wake up at 6pm sunday(eastern time)
Originally posted by BSofSF:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by BSofSF:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Stopped reading when said it was riding the company line
you think pressures mean nothing and are a made up stat. I don't
Stopped reading when you saw the number of words because you don't want to engage. I said sacks are better than pressures. We are settling for all this pressure BS because we're not getting sacks and we want to still be supportive of our guys. A pressure is better than nothing. A pressure can force the QB to make a mistake and throw a pick. I'll take a sack, or a strip sack, over a pressure any day of the week.
I am sure that pressure has had a lot to do with leading the league in INT's. So its not nothing. We are 2nd among all playoff teams in giving up TD's when we get pressure. We are 3rd among all playoff teams in passer rating allowed when we get pressure. 3rd among all playoff teams in INT's when we get pressure. Sacks aren't everything. Speeding up a QB's proccessing is more important imo. It leads to mistakes.
I understand that there is a logic to it, and I get that there is a correlation perhaps to interceptions. But there is also a more positive effect of sacking a QB repeatedly and rattling his cage. A sack puts a team behind the sticks, it often can result in a fumble, a very, very near sack (a pressure) can force an errant throw or a deflected interception, a sack can send a jolt of energy through the team and crowd that changes momentum, and repeated sacks can so rattle a QB as to make them inaccurate and skittish for the remainder of the game.
Second paragraph (for the benefit of NY) ... I would analogize the flawed logic of "a pressure is as good as a sack" to the same conservative mentality that led Shanahan to rationalize his handling of the final drive in the first half. He could have went for the jugular and tried to go up 8 points and receive the second half kickoff, balanced against possible failure and leaving GB with one final 45 second opportunity to put up points. He took the conservative approach. Many have criticized that decision. Shanahan has his reasons, he won't admit there was a mishandling, etc.
Concerns me a little to be measured and conservative facing a very aggressive Detroit. We need to put the peddle to the metal, put up 35, and SACK Goff's ass 4-5 times, not worry about the analytics of time of possession and the fruits of QB pressures. Should be a moot point with Goff. He's a relative statue. Get after his ass, and do it right up the middle where they are weakend by injury.
Originally posted by tankle104:
"it's almost because of Jimmy G and what people said about him". Hit that on the head.
lolol..after that 1st SEA game (2nd start) I said this guy is going to go down in NFL history books. Late to the party folks haha. But better late than never 
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by njninersfan420:
I wish I could just fall asleep and wake up at 6pm sunday(eastern time)
i wish someone could see the future and just tell me if we won so i can be stress free
Originally posted by DrEll:
I love Steve Young, but he's a hardcore homer. He would prop Jimmy up when he was on this roster. This Luke Skywalker stuff is a bit much…