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49ERS vs Lions Pregame thread 2023 Season NFCCG
Jan 22, 2024 at 7:11 AM
- Hysterikal
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I like facing teams with good tackle play! They will actually trust them in 1 on 1 situations especially with an interior linemen injury.
Jan 22, 2024 at 7:12 AM
- YACBros85
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by goatroppolo:
I'm sorry but they may be getting pressures but they really aren't getting home or affecting the QB that much.
we had 2 interceptions last game. The game winning one came by forcing love to leave the pocket the first one came from a chase young pressure
we lead the NFL in interceptions and are 4th in QB hits (despite blitzing the 3rd least)
I think our pass rush needs to step up but they haven't been bad. Packers O line is top notch.
im more concerned about run D than pass rush.
If they could have prevented that 1 big run by Jones, the packers had 27 attempts for 83 yards and 0 TD's. That is less than 3.1 yards per carry. Obviously that 1 big run still counts but our run defense was nowhere near as bad as people think it was.
Jan 22, 2024 at 7:13 AM
- SlipAndSlideBosa
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by goatroppolo:
I'm sorry but they may be getting pressures but they really aren't getting home or affecting the QB that much.
we had 2 interceptions last game. The game winning one came by forcing love to leave the pocket the first one came from a chase young pressure
we lead the NFL in interceptions and are 4th in QB hits (despite blitzing the 3rd least)
I think our pass rush needs to step up but they haven't been bad. Packers O line is top notch.
im more concerned about run D than pass rush.
Yeah I think the Lions will try their best to get their run game going at the start.
If we get up early and force them to be pass happy, the game is over.
Jan 22, 2024 at 7:14 AM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
If they could have prevented that 1 big run by Jones, the packers had 27 attempts for 83 yards and 0 TD's. That is less than 3.1 yards per carry. Obviously that 1 big run still counts but our run defense was nowhere near as bad as people think it was.
They need to generate pressure. Maybe Wilks should call up Chris Kiffin and pick his brain.
Jan 22, 2024 at 7:16 AM
- okdkid
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I do think stopping the run vs the Lions is the priority.
But pointing to the GB game as an example of the Niners playing the run poorly is not a good example. GB had one very good run. Otherwise they really struggled.
But pointing to the GB game as an example of the Niners playing the run poorly is not a good example. GB had one very good run. Otherwise they really struggled.
Jan 22, 2024 at 7:17 AM
- YACBros85
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
If they could have prevented that 1 big run by Jones, the packers had 27 attempts for 83 yards and 0 TD's. That is less than 3.1 yards per carry. Obviously that 1 big run still counts but our run defense was nowhere near as bad as people think it was.
They need to generate pressure. Maybe Wilks should call up Chris Kiffin and pick his brain.
I thought they generated decent pressure. Obviously they didn't get sacks but they did force 2 poor passes that turned into INT's. I will take INT's over sacks any day of the week.
Jan 22, 2024 at 7:17 AM
- tankle104
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EOriginally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by goatroppolo:
I'm sorry but they may be getting pressures but they really aren't getting home or affecting the QB that much.
we had 2 interceptions last game. The game winning one came by forcing love to leave the pocket the first one came from a chase young pressure
we lead the NFL in interceptions and are 4th in QB hits (despite blitzing the 3rd least)
I think our pass rush needs to step up but they haven't been bad. Packers O line is top notch.
im more concerned about run D than pass rush.
If they could have prevented that 1 big run by Jones, the packers had 27 attempts for 83 yards and 0 TD's. That is less than 3.1 yards per carry. Obviously that 1 big run still counts but our run defense was nowhere near as bad as people think it was.
But aren't the Lions the 1 or 2 ranked rushing team this year?
Jan 22, 2024 at 7:17 AM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by StubbyNBY:
Lions losing their really good starting LG Jonah Jackson and top blocking TE for this game
Jackson stonewalled Aaron Donald against the Rams and they look at his backup the way we look at Moore when he has to play.
Lions backup left guard Kayode Awosika allowed a team-high 7 pressures on 28 pass blocking snaps (25.0%) after Jonah Jackson left the game in the 2nd quarter (0 pressures on 18 pass blocking snaps).
— Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) January 21, 2024
Vita Vea generated 4 pressures in 5 matchups vs Awosika.#TBvsDET | #AllGrit
Jan 22, 2024 at 7:18 AM
- ritz126
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Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by goatroppolo:
I'm sorry but they may be getting pressures but they really aren't getting home or affecting the QB that much.
we had 2 interceptions last game. The game winning one came by forcing love to leave the pocket the first one came from a chase young pressure
we lead the NFL in interceptions and are 4th in QB hits (despite blitzing the 3rd least)
I think our pass rush needs to step up but they haven't been bad. Packers O line is top notch.
im more concerned about run D than pass rush.
Yeah I think the Lions will try their best to get their run game going at the start.
If we get up early and force them to be pass happy, the game is over.
run D is a problem i think we are fine with runs down the middle but the side opposite Bosa is not good at setting the edge and those outside runs kill us
Jan 22, 2024 at 7:18 AM
- thl408
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Lions looking to be missing one of their starters on the OL for next week.
If anyone is against paying Jonah Jackson this off-season
— Detroit Illustrated (@DETillustrated) January 22, 2024
Jonah allowed 0 pressures in 18 pass plays before getting injured
Kayode Awosika came in and allowed 7 pressures on 28 pass plays pic.twitter.com/LLe5366v7C
They are also down to one healthy TE on their roster.
Dan Campbell: It doesn't look good for Jonah Jackson, Brock Wright playing
Hargrave likes this.
If there's one thing pocket QBs don't like, it's pressure in their face.
Jan 22, 2024 at 7:18 AM
- ritz126
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Originally posted by tankle104:
EOriginally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by goatroppolo:
I'm sorry but they may be getting pressures but they really aren't getting home or affecting the QB that much.
we had 2 interceptions last game. The game winning one came by forcing love to leave the pocket the first one came from a chase young pressure
we lead the NFL in interceptions and are 4th in QB hits (despite blitzing the 3rd least)
I think our pass rush needs to step up but they haven't been bad. Packers O line is top notch.
im more concerned about run D than pass rush.
If they could have prevented that 1 big run by Jones, the packers had 27 attempts for 83 yards and 0 TD's. That is less than 3.1 yards per carry. Obviously that 1 big run still counts but our run defense was nowhere near as bad as people think it was.
But aren't the Lions the 1 or 2 ranked rushing team this year?
yup they are
Jan 22, 2024 at 7:18 AM
- tankle104
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Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
Yeah I think the Lions will try their best to get their run game going at the start.
If we get up early and force them to be pass happy, the game is over.
if we can stop the run, Lions are toast. I think they have a respectable passing game but it's predicated off their run game. We want Goff to be in 3rd & 5+ often. that will be the best way to get them off the field.
That and Ambry thomas not being a complete dipsh!t.
Jan 22, 2024 at 7:19 AM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by ritz126:
run D is a problem i think we are fine with runs down the middle but the side opposite Bosa is not good at setting the edge and those outside runs kill us
Not having Ferrell on base defense will hurt, he did a pretty solid job of holding up against the run.
Jan 22, 2024 at 7:19 AM
- tankle104
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uhaOriginally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by StubbyNBY:
Lions losing their really good starting LG Jonah Jackson and top blocking TE for this game
Jackson stonewalled Aaron Donald against the Rams and they look at his backup the way we look at Moore when he has to play.
Lions backup left guard Kayode Awosika allowed a team-high 7 pressures on 28 pass blocking snaps (25.0%) after Jonah Jackson left the game in the 2nd quarter (0 pressures on 18 pass blocking snaps).
— Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) January 21, 2024
Vita Vea generated 4 pressures in 5 matchups vs Awosika.#TBvsDET | #AllGrit
muhahahah I'll take all the breaks we can get!
Jan 22, 2024 at 7:20 AM
- tankle104
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by ritz126:
run D is a problem i think we are fine with runs down the middle but the side opposite Bosa is not good at setting the edge and those outside runs kill us
Not having Ferrell on base defense will hurt, he did a pretty solid job of holding up against the run.
outside of Bosa - Ferrell was our best edge setting DE. if we make the super bowl, is it possible he comes back? or will the timeline not work?