49ERS vs Lions Pregame thread 2023 Season NFCCG

Originally posted by LB49ers:
NFL script writers are at it again. The first game of the season is also the last game of the season. Chiefs v Lions. hahaha

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by 49ersking:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 49ersking:
This is a tough year for 49ers fans. All the excitement of potentially beating the Lions (assuming it doesn't rain!), is dampened by the fact that the NFC team is in for a thrashing in the SB by the AFC team.
Miracles happen, yeah, but then, they don't too.

Undefeated Patriots lost the SB
9-7 Giants beat the Patriots in the SB
10-6 Ravens knocked off the Manning Broncos, Patriots and 49ers in the same playoffs
Eagles with a backup QB made it all the way to the SB and beat the Patriots

You play the games for a reason.

Ok, all the above are anomalies. I think a very high probability of winning the SB lies with the AFC team. Is there a chance (however small) for any team to win any game, sure. Regardless of what we feel, the DLine needs to STEP UP! It's pitiful right now, collecting massive checks.

This isn't the 80s and early 90s. Whoever gets to the Superbowl on both the NFC and AFC side will be really good and have a close to a 50/50 shot of winning it.

Ok, we all look at situations differently, that's fine. The only way the 49ers improve their chances is if the DLine steps up big time. I don't know how they would suddenly do that? also what to do about the DBs/safety play, and on the other side of Ward. Is it just the players or players + coaching? Deebo's health? We might go past the Lions (if blue skies), after that, let's see, don't know. Sometimes hope clouds the thinking process.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Brock hasn't played on turf much this year but when he has played on grass, he's been exponentially better than turf.

Well craaaap, that sux.

why? we have a grass field and so does the raiders?

Raiders have turf

Not what I'm reading. They have a grass field like the cards

Yes, you're right. 👍 Sorry, I was confused because I just saw a video of how bad the Raiders turf field is, I didn't realize it was both.
So to your original point, that's good for Brock.

Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:
KC is beatable if they're rendered one-dimensional by building a lead on them & forcing them to pass…their receivers are subpar—this is the year to wreak vengeance on them, hence root for them to beat the Ravens (luckily AFCCG is the earlier game Sunday).

No ever covers Kelce....no one....EVER....damndest thing I've ever seen

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
No one wants them to lose. There are question marks on the team related to the inability to rush the passer, giving up easy yards on the ground and air, penalties in the secondary. These are red flags going into a game against one of the league's best offenses. We barely beat and should not have beaten the Packers the way the game was being played. But now that we squeaked by, it's not like everything is back to normal. Of course there is concern.

Kyle's offense covers up for a lot of defensive weaknesses. Example - run defense. Statistically 49ers are top 3 (or something like that) against the run. I feel they are more like towards middle of the pack. One reason is teams stop running against the 49er defense once they are behind. Thats a concern going into the Lions game as they do have a top flight run game.

To win - Kyle has to get ahead of them by a one or two scores to get them to start passing and give the 49er defense opportunity to create some turnovers, like in the Green Bay game.

We barely beat a decent 9-7 Green Bay team and a lot here are saying this will be easy. If not for some GB mistakes we might not even be here. We did not play well at all and while the weather had its impact there was far more than weather that nearly lost us a game against a decent but not great team. This game is not going to be easy amd to think Detroit just limped their way in to the NFCC is just stupid. Now I agree we should win but if we play like we did last week, we will not win. Plain and simple.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:
*had one of the best. Their center is super banged up and their RG (who is a stud) is out. THey're also going to be down their best run blocking TE. I think we will be fine.

It'll be up to the offense to put points on the board with tuddies and not fieldgoals.

Agree, I think it will be Kyles offense as the difference maker. If Deebo is relatively healthy (so far no fracture) Kyle should have a much more consistent offense this weekend.

49ers defense did a decent job stopping the Green Bay running game. Hopefully the equipment managers do a better job on the cleats and footwork.

It should be an easy win, relatively speaking - if Kyle's offense is at or near 💯% health.

Aaron Jones had 18 carries and 108 yards rushing. If it is because it is Aaron Jones and it was raining, I can agree somewhat. But in general I wouldn't agree giving up over 100 yards on the ground is good.

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Lions will be without starting OG Jonah Jackson. So according to NC, that's a sure victory

And Ragnow is only at 80% according to campbell. (unless that was just a figure of speech)

Rag now was in a TON of pain, clearly, that last game. The coach almost took him out. We are gonna put harm on him.

I really think we could have beaten the Lions.

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Brock hasn't played on turf much this year but when he has played on grass, he's been exponentially better than turf.

Well craaaap, that sux.

why? we have a grass field and so does the raiders?

Raiders have turf

Not what I'm reading. They have a grass field like the cards

Yes, you're right. 👍 Sorry, I was confused because I just saw a video of how bad the Raiders turf field is, I didn't realize it was both.
So to your original point, that's good for Brock.

I didn't realize it was a combination of both. I googled it and it said it was "Bermuda grass field", how does it work when it's a combo? Anyone know?

Originally posted by VA9erfan:

Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:
KC is beatable if they're rendered one-dimensional by building a lead on them & forcing them to pass…their receivers are subpar—this is the year to wreak vengeance on them, hence root for them to beat the Ravens (luckily AFCCG is the earlier game Sunday).

No ever covers Kelce....no one....EVER....damndest thing I've ever seen

Its the script...haha

Seriously i have seen the same thing.

He does get double teamed but when he is open he is wide open.

Originally posted by 49ersvsPackers:
I really think we could have beaten the Lions.

Those WRs and Love in a dome you probably carve em up. You'll get your shots next year.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
No one wants them to lose. There are question marks on the team related to the inability to rush the passer, giving up easy yards on the ground and air, penalties in the secondary. These are red flags going into a game against one of the league's best offenses. We barely beat and should not have beaten the Packers the way the game was being played. But now that we squeaked by, it's not like everything is back to normal. Of course there is concern.

Kyle's offense covers up for a lot of defensive weaknesses. Example - run defense. Statistically 49ers are top 3 (or something like that) against the run. I feel they are more like towards middle of the pack. One reason is teams stop running against the 49er defense once they are behind. Thats a concern going into the Lions game as they do have a top flight run game.

To win - Kyle has to get ahead of them by a one or two scores to get them to start passing and give the 49er defense opportunity to create some turnovers, like in the Green Bay game.

I have heard this argument multiple times over the past several weeks. I am going to test this theory tonight. I am going to go through every game this season where the score was close at the half and see how offenses faired running the ball against us when the score was still close.

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Aaron Jones had 18 carries and 108 yards rushing. If it is because it is Aaron Jones and it was raining, I can agree somewhat. But in general I wouldn't agree giving up over 100 yards on the ground is good.

Half of those yards were on one run, and I blame Logan, so I think we should of had brown in.

other than that, we only let up 3.5 YPC or so. Not bad.

where our big issue last week was that either we gained like 0 yards or 6 yards. Lol no inbetween. So we kept getting in long second and third downs. Hopefully we are more consistent.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Brock hasn't played on turf much this year but when he has played on grass, he's been exponentially better than turf.

Well craaaap, that sux.

why? we have a grass field and so does the raiders?

Raiders have turf

Not what I'm reading. They have a grass field like the cards

Yes, you're right. 👍 Sorry, I was confused because I just saw a video of how bad the Raiders turf field is, I didn't realize it was both.
So to your original point, that's good for Brock.

I didn't realize it was a combination of both. I googled it and it said it was "Bermuda grass field", how does it work when it's a combo? Anyone know?