🏆 SUPER BOWL LVIII PREGAME THREAD - SF 49ERS vs KC CHIEFS 🏆

Originally posted by Giedi:
Between the 49ers practicing on mud covered astroturf and Chiefs losing Nnadi, I'll take Nnadi being unavailable for the Chiefs.

He was put on IR before the AFCC game. He was done regardless

Originally posted by Cosmo:

Originally posted by 49ersking:
After all the analysis, obvious ad/disadvantages of the Chiefs vs 49ers and this and that:
Some heads would say: KC 31-17
Some hearts would say: 49ers 24-20

KC averaged 21.8 PPG this year, so what heads predict 31 points against the Niners defense? Are they screwed on straight?

Against the real niners defense? it's hard. However against the defense that showed up against Detroit? yes.

There has been extensive debate about whether Brock Purdy is merely a game manager or something more, but the fact remains that he guided San Francisco to a 12-5 record and Super Bowl berth.

Add in that Purdy led the NFL in passer rating in 2023 with a mark of 113.0, and it's easy to understand why many believe the former Mr. Irrelevant pick could end up emerging as the next Tom Brady.

That said, Purdy is still just 24 and developing as a passer. He has certainly fared well throughout his first two seasons, but he has had some bumps in the road, especially against top defenses.

That's part of what will make Purdy's matchup with the Chiefs so difficult. Kansas City boasts one of the NFL's top stop units and figures to test Purdy often throughout the Super Bowl.

This whole practice field situation bears watching for the next 24-48 hours. Sounds like the Niners are getting shafted with the outdoor venue and two days of rain (!?!?!?) making their practice field unsafe. Putting a layer of new sod over artificial turf does not sound safe to me at all.

In total, Purdy has played against four teams that rank top 10 in both defensive DVOA and EPA: the Steelers, Cowboys, Browns, and Ravens. The results have been mixed with a lean toward below average.

Overall, across those three contests, Purdy has posted a 2-2 record and has struggled more often than usual with his accuracy, completing just 66-of-112 passes. He also threw five of his 11 interceptions from the season during those four contests.

Below is a look at Purdy's cumulative numbers in those contests.

StatTotalRecord2-2
Comp.%58.9
Passing yards852
Pass TDs7
INTs5
Yards/attempt7.6
Passer rating85.1

Of course, it's fair to note that this is a small sample size and included his four-interception game against the Ravens, which could be considered an outlier.

It's important to look at Purdy's performance in each game to assess where the truth lies about his play against top-tier NFL stop units.

Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
This whole practice field situation bears watching for the next 24-48 hours. Sounds like the Niners are getting shafted with the outdoor venue and two days of rain (!?!?!?) making their practice field unsafe. Putting a layer of new sod over artificial turf does not sound safe to me at all.

It's completely stupid. Leave the turf be the turf. One thing it's great at is holding up no matter how bad the weather and rain is. It's built for that.

Originally posted by 49ersking:

Originally posted by Cosmo:

Originally posted by 49ersking:
After all the analysis, obvious ad/disadvantages of the Chiefs vs 49ers and this and that:
Some heads would say: KC 31-17
Some hearts would say: 49ers 24-20

KC averaged 21.8 PPG this year, so what heads predict 31 points against the Niners defense? Are they screwed on straight?

Against the real niners defense? it's hard. However against the defense that showed up against Detroit? yes.

Detroit is a good offense, they scored over 30+ points 9 times in the regular season and has occasionally hit 40+. For the 49ers to hold them to 31, I think is pretty good. Now obviously they have to play better than that to beat KC, but still, the 49ers defense held a high powered (top 5 in points scored) offense down.

Brock Purdy stats vs. Steelers
Purdy's first game against a top-10 defense came in Week 1 against the Steelers. He played well on the road at Acrisure Stadium in poor weather, completing 19-of-29 passes for 220 yards and two touchdowns in a 30-7 blowout by the 49ers.

Some will try to minimize Purdy's success in this matchup by pointing out that T.J. Watt still managed to sack him three times and that Christian McCaffrey did a lot of San Francisco's damage on offense. However, considering the weather conditions and strength of Pittsburgh's defense, this was an impressive showing from Purdy.

Brock Purdy stats vs. Cowboys
Purdy's best performance against a top-10 defense came against the Cowboys in Week 5, another 49ers blowout. In that contest, Purdy completed 17-of-24 passes for 252 yards and a whopping four touchdowns in a 42-10 victory.

Again, some may opine that Dallas' defense was only ranked so highly because it dominated lower-end competition while enduring issues against winning teams. Even so, Purdy's dismantling of the unit and ability to absorb just one sack against the Micah Parsons-led pass rush was spectacular. That was reflected in his passer rating for the game, a mark of 144.4 that ranked as his third best in a contest for the season.

Brock Purdy stats vs. Browns
While Purdy's first two games against top 10 defenses were strong, his next two weren't as good. He completed a season-low 12-of-27 against the Browns for 125 yards, one touchdown, and one interception just a week after crushing Dallas.

It must be noted that Deebo Samuel, Trent Williams, and Christian McCaffrey all were hurt at some point in this game. That left Purdy without his usual force of weapons on a windy day in Cleveland, so that partially explains the struggles.

Still, Purdy was less accurate than usual and took three sacks — tied for his second-most all season — as he struggled to avoid pressure with Williams out. It was one of his least impressive games of the season, and it resulted in a 19-17 loss because of a missed Jake Moody field goal.

While many blamed Moody for missing the kick, the loss showed just how important it is for the 49ers to be at full strength around their young, developing quarterback.

Brock Purdy stats vs. Ravens
Purdy enjoyed a long stretch playing lower-caliber defenses before facing the Ravens in a Week 15 game that many thought would be a Super Bowl preview.

Purdy endured his worst-ever game against Baltimore. He completed 18-of-32 passes for 255 yards, but he tossed a whopping four interceptions in the contest. That was easily the most of his career and accounted for more than a third of his season total.

Granted, Purdy had some balls glances off his receivers' hands in this contest, but his accuracy wasn't as sharp as it normally had been. That led San Francisco's offense to sputter in the 33-19 defeat.

The Ravens' defense is arguably the best in the NFL, so it's not a surprise that they were able to limit Purdy and make him throw into some tough windows. However, this serves as another example that if Purdy's accuracy or ball placement is off just a little, it can have an impact on his ability to succeed against tough defenses.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49ersking:

Originally posted by Cosmo:

Originally posted by 49ersking:
After all the analysis, obvious ad/disadvantages of the Chiefs vs 49ers and this and that:
Some heads would say: KC 31-17
Some hearts would say: 49ers 24-20

KC averaged 21.8 PPG this year, so what heads predict 31 points against the Niners defense? Are they screwed on straight?

Against the real niners defense? it's hard. However against the defense that showed up against Detroit? yes.

Detroit is a good offense, they scored over 30+ points 9 times in the regular season and has occasionally hit 40+. For the 49ers to hold them to 31, I think is pretty good. Now obviously they have to play better than that to beat KC, but still, the 49ers defense held a high powered (top 5 in points scored) offense down.

We need to use a 5 man defensive line. Bring Kinlaw in to stop the rush and let Hargrave go get Mahomes.

If we play zone Kelce and Mahomes are just going to find the creases in the zone.

Mahomes numbers are worst in tight man coverage.

Bump Kelce at the line.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Is he out ?

Derrick Nnadi was put on IR before the AFCC

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49ersking:

Originally posted by Cosmo:

Originally posted by 49ersking:
After all the analysis, obvious ad/disadvantages of the Chiefs vs 49ers and this and that:
Some heads would say: KC 31-17
Some hearts would say: 49ers 24-20

KC averaged 21.8 PPG this year, so what heads predict 31 points against the Niners defense? Are they screwed on straight?

Against the real niners defense? it's hard. However against the defense that showed up against Detroit? yes.

Detroit is a good offense, they scored over 30+ points 9 times in the regular season and has occasionally hit 40+. For the 49ers to hold them to 31, I think is pretty good. Now obviously they have to play better than that to beat KC, but still, the 49ers defense held a high powered (top 5 in points scored) offense down.

Detroit is also just a bad matchup. Big physical/athletic O Line with very fast and hard to tackle skilled players. I honestly thought we did ok against the pass once we figured out how to defend the short stuff.

A swamp mud bowl with loose turf, seams and gaps. The Swifties won't change their schedule to allow the 49ers to practice at the perfect and pristine Raiders facility. They aren't even pretending anymore. Usually the NFL at least "pretends" for appearances to be fair. This is a complete joke and a total outrage.

Originally posted by RonnieLott:
We need to use a 5 man defensive line. Bring Kinlaw in to stop the rush and let Hargrave go get Mahomes.

If we play zone Kelce and Mahomes are just going to find the creases in the zone.

Mahomes numbers are worst in tight man coverage.

Bump Kelce at the line.

Wilkes wanted to bring in more 5 man lines but the team said we riush 4 and that is how we do it.
i do think they need to rush 5 but i am not sure they will make the change this late now

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Detroit is also just a bad matchup. Big physical/athletic O Line with very fast and hard to tackle skilled players. I honestly thought we did ok against the pass once we figured out how to defend the short stuff.

some of those drops were wide open. i think we got lucky and did play well on a few key stops but the Lions basically drove down the field at will

Originally posted by 49ersking:

Originally posted by Cosmo:

Originally posted by 49ersking:
After all the analysis, obvious ad/disadvantages of the Chiefs vs 49ers and this and that:
Some heads would say: KC 31-17
Some hearts would say: 49ers 24-20

KC averaged 21.8 PPG this year, so what heads predict 31 points against the Niners defense? Are they screwed on straight?

Against the real niners defense? it's hard. However against the defense that showed up against Detroit? yes.

I mean they only put up 30+ pts 3 times this yr.

yes we has 49er fans are use to an elite defense…they might not be that this yr, but some of ya'll are acting like they're bottom of the league which is nonsense.

also show some respect to DET and GB. Down the stretch those were two of the best offenses in the league. KC is always dangerous with Mahomes BUT overall their offense was middle of the pack…their D is what has been great they yr…mostly their pass D