Eddie DeBartolo & Carmen Policy

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by amir_tn80:
Here is my recollection of where things went wrong. In late 1997 Eddie had to step aside as team owner because of his legal issues with the governor of Louisiana. He handed the team over to his sister with Carmen still as the president and running the club. This was supposed to be a temporary arrangement until Eddie had his legal issues resolved. While he was away, for some reason he felt Carmen is conspiring with Denise to take over the franchise permanently. Even though he was not officially the owner, Eddie was still running the franchise from behind the scenes. He fired Carmen and Dwight Clark and brought Bill Walsh back as the GM. Then in 1999 Paul Tagliabue stepped in and suspended permanently. Carmen and Dwight went to Cleveland to run the expansion Browns franchise.

I have no idea if Eddie and Carmen ever made up. Eddie is mostly out of the spotlight now. I think he lives in Tampa.

he didnt have to hand over the team, he did it voluntarily, no one forced him to

He handed the team over to Denise voluntarily with the intent of taking it back after he dealt with his legal woes. Denise didn't give the team back though and that caused a rift in the family.

It was Eddie's baby. He brought the team out of the ashes and hoisted 5 SB trophies. The Yorks, who had no clue on how to run the franchise, basically stole his puppy and decided not to give it back.

Thats why there is so much animosity for the Yorks. It wasn't until Jed grew up and took over and publicly stated that he wanted to run the franchise in his uncle's image that fans started giving the Yorks credence.

Eddie was awesome. Would do anything for the team to be great.

Eddie was permanently suspended by the NFL, he could NOT have taken the 49ers back. He would have had to sell it to someone else. Instead, he traded it to his sister for some other family assets. I don't know what all was involved, but I remember one of the things being a horse racing track.

https://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/DeBartolo-s-Sister-Sues-for-94-Million-Denise-2937043.php

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/matier-ross/article/DeBartolo-Files-150-Million-Lawsuit-Against-His-3318689.php
"We're brother and sister. Genes did that -- I didn't."--- big yikes.

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/No-resolution-of-DeBartolo-York-fight-over-49ers-3076982.php

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/DeBartolo-loses-49ers-to-his-sister-3068921.php

And after many years prior to Eddie's HoF entry:

https://www.upi.com/Sports_News/2016/01/29/Family-approach-leads-Eddie-DeBartolo-to-steps-of-Hall-of-Fame/4791454048650/

'...Truthfully, the team really wasn't taken away from me. I think it's been a misnomer for many many years. Commissioner Tagliabue did obviously suspend me, but as I was going through negotiations with my family and we went through these negotiations and we went through them with lawyers, obviously and with a judge in Akron, Ohio. It did not come down to that team being taken, it came down to a decision that had to be made whether or not I wanted the 49ers or whether or not I wanted to take the other part of the company. And I figured at that time, and my sister Denise (49ers owner Denise York) was involved totally as was her family. I decided in that meeting in Akron Ohio, that I thought it would be best that I took the other side and my tenure with the 49ers would end then and end there. I don't know if that story has ever been told, it may have been, it may have not been. But, it really was a choice, I figured there was more to do with my life at that time. I had succeeded and done a lot with the 49ers. It meant the world to me, but I figured with my daughters, with them getting older and obviously with all of us getting older and having grandchildren at the time, and them planning on families, that it would be best for me to do what was best to be a good grandfather, be a good husband and dad, and do what I want to do and maybe travel a little bit and spend more time with my family.

Originally posted by RDB4216:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by amir_tn80:
Here is my recollection of where things went wrong. In late 1997 Eddie had to step aside as team owner because of his legal issues with the governor of Louisiana. He handed the team over to his sister with Carmen still as the president and running the club. This was supposed to be a temporary arrangement until Eddie had his legal issues resolved. While he was away, for some reason he felt Carmen is conspiring with Denise to take over the franchise permanently. Even though he was not officially the owner, Eddie was still running the franchise from behind the scenes. He fired Carmen and Dwight Clark and brought Bill Walsh back as the GM. Then in 1999 Paul Tagliabue stepped in and suspended permanently. Carmen and Dwight went to Cleveland to run the expansion Browns franchise.

I have no idea if Eddie and Carmen ever made up. Eddie is mostly out of the spotlight now. I think he lives in Tampa.

he didnt have to hand over the team, he did it voluntarily, no one forced him to

He handed the team over to Denise voluntarily with the intent of taking it back after he dealt with his legal woes. Denise didn't give the team back though and that caused a rift in the family.

It was Eddie's baby. He brought the team out of the ashes and hoisted 5 SB trophies. The Yorks, who had no clue on how to run the franchise, basically stole his puppy and decided not to give it back.

Thats why there is so much animosity for the Yorks. It wasn't until Jed grew up and took over and publicly stated that he wanted to run the franchise in his uncle's image that fans started giving the Yorks credence.

Eddie was awesome. Would do anything for the team to be great.

Eddie was permanently suspended by the NFL, he could NOT have taken the 49ers back. He would have had to sell it to someone else. Instead, he traded it to his sister for some other family assets. I don't know what all was involved, but I remember one of the things being a horse racing track.

This. Not sure what he's talking about...as usual.

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by RDB4216:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by amir_tn80:
Here is my recollection of where things went wrong. In late 1997 Eddie had to step aside as team owner because of his legal issues with the governor of Louisiana. He handed the team over to his sister with Carmen still as the president and running the club. This was supposed to be a temporary arrangement until Eddie had his legal issues resolved. While he was away, for some reason he felt Carmen is conspiring with Denise to take over the franchise permanently. Even though he was not officially the owner, Eddie was still running the franchise from behind the scenes. He fired Carmen and Dwight Clark and brought Bill Walsh back as the GM. Then in 1999 Paul Tagliabue stepped in and suspended permanently. Carmen and Dwight went to Cleveland to run the expansion Browns franchise.

I have no idea if Eddie and Carmen ever made up. Eddie is mostly out of the spotlight now. I think he lives in Tampa.

he didnt have to hand over the team, he did it voluntarily, no one forced him to

He handed the team over to Denise voluntarily with the intent of taking it back after he dealt with his legal woes. Denise didn't give the team back though and that caused a rift in the family.

It was Eddie's baby. He brought the team out of the ashes and hoisted 5 SB trophies. The Yorks, who had no clue on how to run the franchise, basically stole his puppy and decided not to give it back.

Thats why there is so much animosity for the Yorks. It wasn't until Jed grew up and took over and publicly stated that he wanted to run the franchise in his uncle's image that fans started giving the Yorks credence.

Eddie was awesome. Would do anything for the team to be great.

Eddie was permanently suspended by the NFL, he could NOT have taken the 49ers back. He would have had to sell it to someone else. Instead, he traded it to his sister for some other family assets. I don't know what all was involved, but I remember one of the things being a horse racing track.

This. Not sure what he's talking about...as usual.

I just looked this up and he was initially barred from all team activities for one year by the NFL during which his sister assumed control. He became involved in a feud with his sister and John York over control of the team. Eddie had been cut off from the family fortune because he was $94 million in debt. He and Denise eventually met and reached a permanent agreement that allowed Eddie to keep certain properties in exchange for signing over complete control of the 49ers. This was a complex family matter . I suspect the NFL may have eventually allowed Eddie to take back control of the team but the family feud got in the way.

I got this story from SF Gate for those that want to look it up. I had forgotten the details.

$500 for the Giants...holy s**t. I hate my great grand parents.

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

How much each #NFL team last sold for.

(collab w/ @ASCSportsMedia) pic.twitter.com/HoIzNxPyOg

— Tyler Webb (@tylermwebb) July 3, 2024

This is crazy.

Eddie D is the best owner ever!

Bill Walsh is the G.O.A.T

All of the rules had to be changed just to get other guys into the conversation.

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

How much each #NFL team last sold for.

(collab w/ @ASCSportsMedia) pic.twitter.com/HoIzNxPyOg

— Tyler Webb (@tylermwebb) July 3, 2024

This is crazy.

This chart shows not only how much the value of franchises has increased but also the amount of money that billionaires have to throw around. The Broncos are owned by the wealthiest family in the country.