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Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by 9moon:
IT ain't getting fixed as long as Kyle does not know how to be a HC...

it's ez to say that our D is wayyyy overrated... but KC, this team that they have, it's so freakin weak that we shoulda won by 17 at the very least.. the 3Qtr shoulda been the time we put them away but the play calling was so baddddd !!!

but again, it came down to a CRITICAL CALL.. KYLE is the best at calling the MOST BONE-HEADED PLAY when matter the most.. we had 2 downs to get 4 yards to get a first, then 4 downs to get in the end zone...

... instead of calling a simple running play w/the best RB in the NFL, or even call a simple BOOTLEG ... he got cute once again and call for a passing play .. that call just told me that he was ready to call a FG if we didn't score a TD..

.. was he not watching how easily PAT ANDY got into scoring position before the end of the regular game??

ENOUGHS ENOUGH.. KYLE NEEDS TO GO..

The play before the 3rd and 4 at end of regulation WAS a bootleg.

Andy got into scoring position that easily because the defense just gave it to them. Had nothing to do with great playcalling. Soft zone playing not lose.

KC earned the OT, I am not pointing on KYLE on that one.. I am calling out KYLE on our last possession..

2 downs to get a 1st, and 4 downs to get in the endzone..

instead, he calls a pass play ... and to make it worst, why not keep 44 in there to help out any DL that may get thru (which they did)..

For a team that typically plays a 21 personnel formation as their bread and butter since Kyle has been here why did we go to an empty backfield, shotgun pass play on the most important snap of the year...this is choking....

We went empty backfield 15 times against a team that had people in the backfield on nearly every passing play.

It's almost like a low functioning version of a coach was coaching us.
[ Edited by HONEYBADGER on Feb 12, 2024 at 2:13 PM ]
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Originally posted by Redandgoldsf:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Easy fix. Dump the loser coach who call stupid plays at the most crucial parts of the game. Even Romo was calling him out. That's bad. When Romo does it you know there is a problem.

so you're telling me the team got within inches of winning the Super Bowl in spite of Shanahan?

No. I am telling you we lost the superbowl because of Kyle. There is a sea of difference between a few inches and actually winning. He is that sea. I don't give crap about how good he is in the regular season. He can't win the big one. That last drive will forever haunt me. We had it and he gave it away. Sickening. I am plain disappointed,disgusted and saddened by what he did. We were right there. 4 f**king yards to a first and working the clock. 4 yards. We got kyled.

So you think we could've had a potato at HC and got better results?
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Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by 9moon:
IT ain't getting fixed as long as Kyle does not know how to be a HC...

it's ez to say that our D is wayyyy overrated... but KC, this team that they have, it's so freakin weak that we shoulda won by 17 at the very least.. the 3Qtr shoulda been the time we put them away but the play calling was so baddddd !!!

but again, it came down to a CRITICAL CALL.. KYLE is the best at calling the MOST BONE-HEADED PLAY when matter the most.. we had 2 downs to get 4 yards to get a first, then 4 downs to get in the end zone...

... instead of calling a simple running play w/the best RB in the NFL, or even call a simple BOOTLEG ... he got cute once again and call for a passing play .. that call just told me that he was ready to call a FG if we didn't score a TD..

.. was he not watching how easily PAT ANDY got into scoring position before the end of the regular game??

ENOUGHS ENOUGH.. KYLE NEEDS TO GO..

The play before the 3rd and 4 at end of regulation WAS a bootleg.

Andy got into scoring position that easily because the defense just gave it to them. Had nothing to do with great playcalling. Soft zone playing not lose.

KC earned the OT, I am not pointing on KYLE on that one.. I am calling out KYLE on our last possession..

2 downs to get a 1st, and 4 downs to get in the endzone..

instead, he calls a pass play ... and to make it worst, why not keep 44 in there to help out any DL that may get thru (which they did)..

For a team that typically plays a 21 personnel formation as their bread and butter since Kyle has been here why did we go to an empty backfield, shotgun pass play on the most important snap of the year...this is choking....

He spread it out bc he thought the reads would be easier for Brock. It's easier to disguise blitz when you have a condensed formation on offense bc everyone is wound so tight in a box. But moon is right. This is Kyle outsmarting himself when he has the OP of the year on his roster
"That last drive will forever haunt me."

Yeah.. it probably will. As a Seahawks fan, I'm still traumatized by the ending to our last SB vs the Patriots. It won't ever go away.
[ Edited by MisterMxyzptlk on Feb 12, 2024 at 2:07 PM ]
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Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
How do you fix what!!! The NFL has some kind of vendetta against the 49ers from all those Super Bowl wins they got in the past. The NFL wants the 9ers to reach the Super Bowl to watch us lose. Every f**kin thing in history has us winning that game.

f**k YOU GOODELL, f**k YOU VINOVICH ACTUALLY A BIG f**k YOU!!! f**k YOU ANDY REID AND f**k YOU PATRICK MAHOMES!!!!

The better team did not win last night the f**kin refs gifted you that s**t again.

Sorry man. Can't blame conspiracies on this one. Kyle s**t the bed. That 3rd quarter was atrocious when he had a chance to step on KC's throat. No one to blame but himself…

Nah f**k that the refs f**ked us. Tell me why the f**k are there missed calls every time Vinovich refs a 49ers game. The NFL wasn't gonna let the 49ers win this one no matter what they did.
Originally posted by Redandgoldsf:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Originally posted by Redandgoldsf:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Easy fix. Dump the loser coach who call stupid plays at the most crucial parts of the game. Even Romo was calling him out. That's bad. When Romo does it you know there is a problem.

so you're telling me the team got within inches of winning the Super Bowl in spite of Shanahan?

No. I am telling you we lost the superbowl because of Kyle. There is a sea of difference between a few inches and actually winning. He is that sea. I don't give crap about how good he is in the regular season. He can't win the big one. That last drive will forever haunt me. We had it and he gave it away. Sickening. I am plain disappointed,disgusted and saddened by what he did. We were right there. 4 f**king yards to a first and working the clock. 4 yards. We got kyled.

So you think we could've had a potato at HC and got better results?

I think Kyle is fine as an OC BUT he needs someone to keep him in check and that would be an HC
[ Edited by socalfan21 on Feb 12, 2024 at 2:09 PM ]
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Originally posted by HONEYBADGER:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by 9moon:
IT ain't getting fixed as long as Kyle does not know how to be a HC...

it's ez to say that our D is wayyyy overrated... but KC, this team that they have, it's so freakin weak that we shoulda won by 17 at the very least.. the 3Qtr shoulda been the time we put them away but the play calling was so baddddd !!!

but again, it came down to a CRITICAL CALL.. KYLE is the best at calling the MOST BONE-HEADED PLAY when matter the most.. we had 2 downs to get 4 yards to get a first, then 4 downs to get in the end zone...

... instead of calling a simple running play w/the best RB in the NFL, or even call a simple BOOTLEG ... he got cute once again and call for a passing play .. that call just told me that he was ready to call a FG if we didn't score a TD..

.. was he not watching how easily PAT ANDY got into scoring position before the end of the regular game??

ENOUGHS ENOUGH.. KYLE NEEDS TO GO..

The play before the 3rd and 4 at end of regulation WAS a bootleg.

Andy got into scoring position that easily because the defense just gave it to them. Had nothing to do with great playcalling. Soft zone playing not lose.

KC earned the OT, I am not pointing on KYLE on that one.. I am calling out KYLE on our last possession..

2 downs to get a 1st, and 4 downs to get in the endzone..

instead, he calls a pass play ... and to make it worst, why not keep 44 in there to help out any DL that may get thru (which they did)..

For a team that typically plays a 21 personnel formation as their bread and butter since Kyle has been here why did we go to an empty backfield, shotgun pass play on the most important snap of the year...this is choking....

We went empty backfield 15 times against a team that had people in the backfield on nearly every passing play.

It's almost like a retarded version of a coach was coaching us.

Do me a favor and edit that word retarded, I f**kin hate it.
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
How do you fix what!!! The NFL has some kind of vendetta against the 49ers from all those Super Bowl wins they got in the past. The NFL wants the 9ers to reach the Super Bowl to watch us lose. Every f**kin thing in history has us winning that game.

f**k YOU GOODELL, f**k YOU VINOVICH ACTUALLY A BIG f**k YOU!!! f**k YOU ANDY REID AND f**k YOU PATRICK MAHOMES!!!!

The better team did not win last night the f**kin refs gifted you that s**t again.

Sorry man. Can't blame conspiracies on this one. Kyle s**t the bed. That 3rd quarter was atrocious when he had a chance to step on KC's throat. No one to blame but himself…

Nah f**k that the refs f**ked us. Tell me why the f**k are there missed calls every time Vinovich refs a 49ers game. The NFL wasn't gonna let the 49ers win this one no matter what they did.

Yet we still could have. Trent single handedly botched our second drive. CMC our first. Kyle the entire 3rd quarter. Did you know the refs could have called offensive holding or illegal man downfield on that TD pass from Jennings ? They didn't have to call a hold in OT on that putrid 3rd down play we had to open the drive. s**t happens. Yea an offensive hold could have stalled a drive for Mahomes. Maybe. I'm not convinced. I think officiating was the least of our problems last night…
Originally posted by lamontb:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
If one goes back to the 90s we lost to DAL over and over and it took a lot of additions to get over the top. With BPs contract maybe we can make some major additions and some all in moves.

How many more all in moves can they make? Trade for the best rb in the game didn't work. Trading for multiple pass rushers didn't work either. Paying top notch money to Hargrave didn't work either.

The fluke punt fumble sucked, but we could've overcame that bad luck if Brock had any sort of protection. It must be really f***ing old for Trent Williams, and to a lesser extent Brendel, feeling like they're the only guys on the OL who ever do anything.

We have an All Pro LT, a solid C, and mediocre to below average guys everywhere else. We can't afford for Brock to get hurt. We need this OL fortified BADLY.
This was a loss at all levels - coaching, offense, defense, and special teams.

Coaching - Need someone to be in KS ear about situational awareness, 3 super bowls with double digit leads and zero rings. That's on him. Find a replacement for Wilks…and asap.

We have a generational LT, a pro bowl FB, and the best RB in the league. And it was the last game of the season. Why the heck didn't we run left the whole game???

Offense - CMC fumble in 1Q running right, can't convert a turnover into points, dog s**t play calling all damn game

Defense - freak injury to Greenlaw, bad adjustments after Dre went down, soft zone, Kelce ran free 2H, let Mahomes run free on 4th and 1 to end the game (Bosa didn't stay in his lane 2x)

Special Teams - Moddy ass PAT and Kyle Williams v2

We need a new ST coach to fix our problems on FG kicks and kickoff coverage

If Purdy is our guy, then we need to build our OL around him and look for a Trent replacement. We have a ton of picks to do this.

Despite ALLLLLL of this, we could have curb stomped them but didn't bc of a combination of all of the above. We didn't play a clean game like we should have. We didn't play a clean game all 20 games. So this goes back to coaching and execution...which goes back to coaching.
[ Edited by kdoggie on Feb 12, 2024 at 2:23 PM ]
You give these guys 1 year, and they deliver or we make wholesale changes. Key element is they have to believe it's the final ride. That provides added incentive and motivation.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
You give these guys 1 year, and they deliver or we make wholesale changes. Key element is they have to believe it's the final ride. That provides added incentive and motivation.

That s**t aint happening my man.
[ Edited by SmokeyJoe on Feb 12, 2024 at 2:50 PM ]
Originally posted by kdoggie:
This was a loss at all levels - coaching, offense, defense, and special teams.

Coaching - Need someone to be in KS ear about situational awareness, 3 super bowls with double digit leads and zero rings. That's on him. Find a replacement for Wilks…and asap.

We have a generational LT, a pro bowl FB, and the best RB in the league. And it was the last game of the season. Why the heck didn't we run left the whole game???

Offense - CMC fumble in 1Q running right, can't convert a turnover into points, dog s**t play calling all damn game

Defense - freak injury to Greenlaw, bad adjustments after Dre went down, soft zone, Kelce ran free 2H, let Mahomes run free on 4th and 1 to end the game (Bosa didn't stay in his lane 2x)

Special Teams - Moddy ass PAT and Kyle Williams v2

We need a new ST coach to fix our problems on FG kicks and kickoff coverage

If Purdy is our guy, then we need to build our OL around him and look for a Trent replacement. We have a ton of picks to do this.

Despite ALLLLLL of this, we could have curb stomped them but didn't bc of a combination of all of the above. We didn't play a clean game like we should have. We didn't play a clean game all 20 games. So this goes back to coaching and execution...which goes back to coaching.

This.
11 picks for next draft better account for something. OL for sure, maybe we can get snead in FA. LB now that greenlaw is done for the year. RG, RT. Both Burford and Mckivitz are terrible and need to be replaced.

Ya know in my imagination we won. Too bad it doesn't translate to real life....
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Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
How do you fix what!!! The NFL has some kind of vendetta against the 49ers from all those Super Bowl wins they got in the past. The NFL wants the 9ers to reach the Super Bowl to watch us lose. Every f**kin thing in history has us winning that game.

f**k YOU GOODELL, f**k YOU VINOVICH ACTUALLY A BIG f**k YOU!!! f**k YOU ANDY REID AND f**k YOU PATRICK MAHOMES!!!!

The better team did not win last night the f**kin refs gifted you that s**t again.

Sorry man. Can't blame conspiracies on this one. Kyle s**t the bed. That 3rd quarter was atrocious when he had a chance to step on KC's throat. No one to blame but himself…

Nah f**k that the refs f**ked us. Tell me why the f**k are there missed calls every time Vinovich refs a 49ers game. The NFL wasn't gonna let the 49ers win this one no matter what they did.

Yet we still could have. Trent single handedly botched our second drive. CMC our first. Kyle the entire 3rd quarter. Did you know the refs could have called offensive holding or illegal man downfield on that TD pass from Jennings ? They didn't have to call a hold in OT on that putrid 3rd down play we had to open the drive. s**t happens. Yea an offensive hold could have stalled a drive for Mahomes. Maybe. I'm not convinced. I think officiating was the least of our problems last night…

The refs missed a ton of calls plain and simple. The NFL fixed this f**kin game as soon as Bill Vinovich was installed as the ref of the Super Bowl.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
That s**t aint happening my man.

Got his fingers crossed for the Wilkes/Darnold HC/QB combo in 2025.
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