Who will be the Niners new DC?-Rooney Rule Now Applicable | Page 109

Feb 27, 2024 at 12:22 PM

NYniner85
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Originally posted by GorefullBore:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Asked a DC question, Lynch suggests that there won't be any major changes as far as philosophy.
— Matt Barrows (@mattbarrows) February 27, 2024

no Staley, Bill or Vrabel more than likely with that info

Just talking about scheme, I think Bill/Vrabel are multiple enough that they can work with what they got. I don't think the same can be said of Staley.

Didn't the Rams use a 4-3 in 2020?

No. Staley is a Vic Fangio disciple.

Worth noting: Lynch emphasized that this does not rule out Brandon Staley for the 49ers' DC role. He said Staley is versatile enough to fit what SF is looking for in maintaining core defensive principles and that Wilks case wouldn't stop SF from going outside of family https://t.co/VOG3dnXSiK
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) February 27, 2024

Feb 27, 2024 at 12:24 PM

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Hysterikal
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by GorefullBore:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Asked a DC question, Lynch suggests that there won't be any major changes as far as philosophy.
— Matt Barrows (@mattbarrows) February 27, 2024

no Staley, Bill or Vrabel more than likely with that info

Just talking about scheme, I think Bill/Vrabel are multiple enough that they can work with what they got. I don't think the same can be said of Staley.

Didn't the Rams use a 4-3 in 2020?

No. Staley is a Vic Fangio disciple.

Worth noting: Lynch emphasized that this does not rule out Brandon Staley for the 49ers' DC role. He said Staley is versatile enough to fit what SF is looking for in maintaining core defensive principles and that Wilks case wouldn't stop SF from going outside of family https://t.co/VOG3dnXSiK
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) February 27, 2024

I bet Kyle wants Staley cause from what I've heard is Staley is a big Xs and Os nerd just like Kyle.

Feb 27, 2024 at 12:30 PM

#1623

NCommand
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Originally posted by GorefullBore:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Yeah, it's far from a certainty, but I think David's reasoning for why this may be taking this long is more than plausible. At this point I hope they are working to pry Ulbrich from New York.

Sounds good.

Feb 27, 2024 at 12:30 PM

#1624

Heroism
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Worth noting: Lynch emphasized that this does not rule out Brandon Staley for the 49ers' DC role. He said Staley is versatile enough to fit what SF is looking for in maintaining core defensive principles and that Wilks case wouldn't stop SF from going outside of family https://t.co/VOG3dnXSiK
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) February 27, 2024

The 4-3/3-4 talk is kind of pointless. What's really important are the techniques and fits these guys implement up front. I'm more interested in whether Staley would maintain an attacking 1-gap front or bring in his 1.5-gap techniques.

I think the 49ers ultimately want to play fast and aggressive. You can still do that with the 1.5(albeit to a lesser extent), but I don't know how Kocurek fits in that picture.

[ Edited by Heroism on Feb 27, 2024 at 12:32 PM ]

Feb 27, 2024 at 12:34 PM

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Fanaticofnfl
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Here's a key line from John Lynch on the 49ers' DC interview process that shouldn't go unnoticed:

"It's an opportunity to look into different ways we can evolve. A lot of these ideas come up in interviews."

Even if Brandon Staley isn't the pick, a good interview process can…
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) February 27, 2024

So… we don't want to change anything philosophically, but in the same exact press conference, we're looking to evolve.

That pretty much confirms what I already knew but nobody wanted to hear: this team has no clue what it's doing.

Feb 27, 2024 at 12:34 PM

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thl408
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by GorefullBore:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Asked a DC question, Lynch suggests that there won't be any major changes as far as philosophy.
— Matt Barrows (@mattbarrows) February 27, 2024

no Staley, Bill or Vrabel more than likely with that info

Just talking about scheme, I think Bill/Vrabel are multiple enough that they can work with what they got. I don't think the same can be said of Staley.

Didn't the Rams use a 4-3 in 2020?

No. Staley is a Vic Fangio disciple.

Worth noting: Lynch emphasized that this does not rule out Brandon Staley for the 49ers' DC role. He said Staley is versatile enough to fit what SF is looking for in maintaining core defensive principles and that Wilks case wouldn't stop SF from going outside of family https://t.co/VOG3dnXSiK
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) February 27, 2024

It seems contradictory to me. To say they want to stay with the same core principles but that Staley is a fit. The only thing the 49er defense with Saleh/Ryans/Wilks has in common with Staley is that they are zone dominant. What Staley does with his front7 is not similar to what Saleh/Ryans did.

Feb 27, 2024 at 12:36 PM

#1627

jobiwon
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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I bet Kyle wants Staley cause from what I've heard is Staley is a big Xs and Os nerd just like Kyle.

Yes, this is true. He will love this part of Staley and it could push him to the top even with the personality issues.
Also Helms deep experience is a plus.

Feb 27, 2024 at 12:39 PM

#1628

Heroism
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Here's a key line from John Lynch on the 49ers' DC interview process that shouldn't go unnoticed:

"It's an opportunity to look into different ways we can evolve. A lot of these ideas come up in interviews."

Even if Brandon Staley isn't the pick, a good interview process can…
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) February 27, 2024

So… we don't want to change anything philosophically, but in the same exact press conference, we're looking to evolve.

That pretty much confirms what I already knew but nobody wanted to hear: this team has no clue what it's doing.

Sounds to me more like they saw what teams like KC and Baltimore did to Shanahan's offense attacking the tight splits, motions, etc. and want to find ways to adopt those things while maintaining their core defense.

[ Edited by Heroism on Feb 27, 2024 at 12:42 PM ]

Feb 27, 2024 at 12:51 PM

#1629

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Originally posted by Heroism:
Sounds to me more like they saw what teams like KC and Baltimore did to Shanahan's offense attacking the tight splits, motions, etc. and want to find ways to adopt those things while maintaining their core defense.

Wait, you mean the fact that they're doing an extensive interview process doesn't mean that their plan A fell through and that Kyle has no idea what he's doing? 🤯

Feb 27, 2024 at 12:51 PM

#1630

Cisco0623
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Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Here's a key line from John Lynch on the 49ers' DC interview process that shouldn't go unnoticed:

"It's an opportunity to look into different ways we can evolve. A lot of these ideas come up in interviews."

Even if Brandon Staley isn't the pick, a good interview process can…
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) February 27, 2024

So… we don't want to change anything philosophically, but in the same exact press conference, we're looking to evolve.

That pretty much confirms what I already knew but nobody wanted to hear: this team has no clue what it's doing.

Sounds to me more like they saw what teams like KC and Baltimore did to Shanahan's offense attacking the tight splits, motions, etc. and want to find ways to adopt those things while maintaining their core defense.

Makes logical sense, but who do you think is the best candidate for that approach?

Feb 27, 2024 at 12:52 PM

#1631

lamontb
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Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Here's a key line from John Lynch on the 49ers' DC interview process that shouldn't go unnoticed:

"It's an opportunity to look into different ways we can evolve. A lot of these ideas come up in interviews."

Even if Brandon Staley isn't the pick, a good interview process can…
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) February 27, 2024

So… we don't want to change anything philosophically, but in the same exact press conference, we're looking to evolve.

That pretty much confirms what I already knew but nobody wanted to hear: this team has no clue what it's doing.

Sounds to me more like they saw what teams like KC and Baltimore did to Shanahan's offense attacking the tight splits, motions, etc. and want to find ways to adopt those things while maintaining their core defense.

Bingo

Feb 27, 2024 at 12:56 PM

#1632

Kolohe
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Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Here's a key line from John Lynch on the 49ers' DC interview process that shouldn't go unnoticed:

"It's an opportunity to look into different ways we can evolve. A lot of these ideas come up in interviews."

Even if Brandon Staley isn't the pick, a good interview process can…
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) February 27, 2024

So… we don't want to change anything philosophically, but in the same exact press conference, we're looking to evolve.

That pretty much confirms what I already knew but nobody wanted to hear: this team has no clue what it's doing.

Sounds to me more like they saw what teams like KC and Baltimore did to Shanahan's offense attacking the tight splits, motions, etc. and want to find ways to adopt those things while maintaining their core defense.

Makes logical sense, but who do you think is the best candidate for that approach?

Jeff Ulbrich and Mike Vrabel.

Feb 27, 2024 at 1:03 PM

#1633

Dirtydonedirtcheap69
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Originally posted by GorefullBore:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Asked a DC question, Lynch suggests that there won't be any major changes as far as philosophy.
— Matt Barrows (@mattbarrows) February 27, 2024

no Staley, Bill or Vrabel more than likely with that info

Just talking about scheme, I think Bill/Vrabel are multiple enough that they can work with what they got. I don't think the same can be said of Staley.

Didn't the Rams use a 4-3 in 2020?

No. Staley is a Vic Fangio disciple.

This isn't an answer

But no they ran a 3-4

[ Edited by Dirtydonedirtcheap69 on Feb 27, 2024 at 1:04 PM ]

Feb 27, 2024 at 1:05 PM

#1634

eastie
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Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Here's a key line from John Lynch on the 49ers' DC interview process that shouldn't go unnoticed:

"It's an opportunity to look into different ways we can evolve. A lot of these ideas come up in interviews."

Even if Brandon Staley isn't the pick, a good interview process can…
— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) February 27, 2024

So… we don't want to change anything philosophically, but in the same exact press conference, we're looking to evolve.

That pretty much confirms what I already knew but nobody wanted to hear: this team has no clue what it's doing.

On the contrary I believe the team knows exactly what they Are doing. Nothing stays the same, nothing. The defense must evolve to match the evolution of the offense. To make that happen coaches must innovate. The way to do that without wholesale changes to players is to incorporate incremental changes to the defense, not huge sweeping changes, small effective changes. That's what the leadership is mining in these interviews.

Feb 27, 2024 at 1:06 PM

#1635

Waterbear
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Originally posted by GorefullBore:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Asked a DC question, Lynch suggests that there won't be any major changes as far as philosophy.
— Matt Barrows (@mattbarrows) February 27, 2024

no Staley, Bill or Vrabel more than likely with that info

Just talking about scheme, I think Bill/Vrabel are multiple enough that they can work with what they got. I don't think the same can be said of Staley.

Didn't the Rams use a 4-3 in 2020?

No. Staley is a Vic Fangio disciple.

Well just like what Hero says, it matters more what gap responsibilities they had.

I highly doubt they made Donald 2 gap… but who knows.