Who will be the Niners new DC?-Rooney Rule Now Applicable

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:

Originally posted by TopDogBerkeley:
My guess is that he goes internal (Bullocks)

That would suck. And another sign that this organization isn't serious about winning a Super Bowl, only losing them.

Um, not even the Raiders are on those lines. I don't know if Bullocks has the potential and neither, I suspect, do you.

Brandon Staley's defenses have been mediocre at best with the Chargers and he had some really good players.
The way I see it, it's gonna be an internal solution. Kyle is the architect of the defense essentially so he needs someone that knows the scheme.
Honestly Kyle should just do double duty. It's his defense anyway. Might as well call the plays.

Originally posted by BP13:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Am I the only one who doesn't want Vrabel? His defense in Houston was awful in 2017 and that was the only year he was DC. I would give him a chance if we hire him but I would rather go with someone else.

In fairness to Vrabel, they had a bad defensive roster, best player was Clowney, then Brian Cushing who was suspended for 11 games. then nobody.

Yes, must take talent into consideration.

Remember after Vic Fangio left the Saints Dome Patrol, his defenses weren't so hot....because the talent wasn't there.

Joins Harbaugh in SF and immediately dominant.

Originally posted by pdc20:
Brandon Staley's defenses have been mediocre at best with the Chargers and he had some really good players.
The way I see it, it's gonna be an internal solution. Kyle is the architect of the defense essentially so he needs someone that knows the scheme.
Honestly Kyle should just do double duty. It's his defense anyway. Might as well call the plays.

I've warmed up to the idea of Staley but like you think that Chargers D underperformed. But he won't be leaving for a head coaching position anytime soon.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49ers81:
I honestly don't get this enthusiasm for Belichick. The guy is in his 70's and was the head coach of one of the strongest dynasties in the history of the league, so why would he want to go back to be a DC in the first place. He is also a brusque, tight-lipped, seemingly, unpleasant guy who is used to having complete control over football operations. I don't see how anyone can think he would be a good fit here personality-wise, regardless of what his past resume looks like. I think there is also a legitimate question about who was really responsible for the twenty-year run in New England. Belichick had failed in Cleveland and then he failed in New England as soon as Brady left. There has to be a younger, more dynamic option, than him available.

Belichick knows defense. At 70+ he isn't likely to get another hC job. If he wants to stay in football, what better place to come. He can just concentrate on what he loves and hopefully go to another SB or two. He wouldn't need to control all parts of the team. Just defense. He was one of the few coaches that could slow down Bill Walsh and Montana.

Belichick schematically was the toughest opponent to Walsh/Montana/Young......easily.

'85 Bears were very tough and maybe the best single defense we might have faced, but by '88 we smoked them out of the building. '89 Eagles (Buddy Ryan scheme from Chicago) sacked Montana 8 times and still lost and gave up 28 points in the fourth quarter.

Could never smoke the Giants after '84....every game was tough. Belichick schemed around Brent Jones and slowed down our offense better than anyone else.

Better than Redskins, Vikings, Rams, etc.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49ers81:
I honestly don't get this enthusiasm for Belichick. The guy is in his 70's and was the head coach of one of the strongest dynasties in the history of the league, so why would he want to go back to be a DC in the first place. He is also a brusque, tight-lipped, seemingly, unpleasant guy who is used to having complete control over football operations. I don't see how anyone can think he would be a good fit here personality-wise, regardless of what his past resume looks like. I think there is also a legitimate question about who was really responsible for the twenty-year run in New England. Belichick had failed in Cleveland and then he failed in New England as soon as Brady left. There has to be a younger, more dynamic option, than him available.

Belichick knows defense. At 70+ he isn't likely to get another hC job. If he wants to stay in football, what better place to come. He can just concentrate on what he loves and hopefully go to another SB or two. He wouldn't need to control all parts of the team. Just defense. He was one of the few coaches that could slow down Bill Walsh and Montana.

I have a feeling, Pete Carroll, Bill Belichick, Mike Vrabel, Brandon Staley or Ron Rivera will be the DC. I just don't think these guys wanna sit out the season and what better place to have success than a team coming from a Super Bowl. I also have this feeling that Carroll and Belichick are on the top of Shanahan's wish list, Carroll for the system Shanahan prefers and Belichick because hey he's Belichick.

Did you guys actually forget the QUOTE from Kyle regarding coaches/players:

"If Belichick was available for defensive coordinator, then you'd take him"

This was a few years back. I forget exactly what it was in reference to, but he said it, and I think Saleh was the DC at the time.

Originally posted by pdc20:
Brandon Staley's defenses have been mediocre at best with the Chargers and he had some really good players.
The way I see it, it's gonna be an internal solution. Kyle is the architect of the defense essentially so he needs someone that knows the scheme.
Honestly Kyle should just do double duty. It's his defense anyway. Might as well call the plays.

If people think calling offensive plays is too much work for him........now do double duty?

LOL

Belichick is easily the best possibility on paper and it's not close. Problem is all the other factors outside of on paper.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I actually don't hate the idea of Lynn. He's really young but also very experienced as an assistant and what he did with that UCLA defense last year, taking them from 89th to 11th in the nation was damn impressive.

Learned under some damn good defensive minds. Guy spoke to someone that was around him daily at UCLA. Said he will be a DC (at least) in the NFL. He multiple and can change his scheme to the strength of his players

Originally posted by JR80Forever:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Monsterniner:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Lol just tired of you whining like a little b***h, f**kin deal with it Shanahan is the head coach!!!

3 NFCC's
2 Super Bowls

Keep crying!!!

Yet after 7 years I still see the same old 5 Lombardis.

If you see more tell me where they are

KOLOHE counts the 2nd place trophies both from the NFCCG and Super Bowls..

So does your mom.

danggg.. u wanna go MOM way?

did you ever find your mom at the Lahaina fire?

I am kinda enjoying this. I actually agree with Kolohe. I seriously doubt any other GM HC combo would have done any better in the past years. Ultimately, guys need to execute. Burford said it was his fault. Period. Bad luck that Jon got hurt. Bad luck that Dre got hurt. Bad luck on the punt ricochet. Bad luck that half a dozen of KC's fumbles managed to bounce back into their arms.

Games aren't gonna be coached or played 100% perfect. IMO, KC wasn't really better, they were just luckier. Is what it is.

@OnTheClock

I find your message to be very classless.

Are we not all fans of our beloved team?

We are human beings and this is a public forum. Just because we are here talking football doesn't preclude us from SHOWING each other RESPECT.

If I was granted the title of "Hall of Fame" I would be the definition of class. You should hold yourself to a higher standard and represent the Webzone better.

??? I just found humor in the bickering. I was reading this like family/sibling banter to me. No disrespect meant to anyone. I don't think you would find any other person in here, including Kolohe who I've had some big arguments with in the past, accusing me of a lack of class...

But hey, I understand my response bothered you, so my apologies. I respectfully disagree with folks who have the opinion that we could do better than Kyle or that he should be fired. I acknowledge he isn't perfect, but no one else would be either.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I actually don't hate the idea of Lynn. He's really young but also very experienced as an assistant and what he did with that UCLA defense last year, taking them from 89th to 11th in the nation was damn impressive.

Learned under some damn good defensive minds. Guy spoke to someone that was around him daily at UCLA. Said he will be a DC (at least) in the NFL. He multiple and can change his scheme to the strength of his players

I like the idea. I am not hot on Staley tbh. He lost that team baaaaad. I don't wan that around this team.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Belichick is easily the best possibility on paper and it's not close. Problem is all the other factors outside of on paper.

Belichick doesn't feel like the right fit though. Surely he'll be bolting for the next HC gig he can get leaving us in this position again. His age, personality, ego. Just lots of Q's for me. But yes, on paper.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Am I the only one who doesn't want Vrabel? His defense in Houston was awful in 2017 and that was the only year he was DC. I would give him a chance if we hire him but I would rather go with someone else.

I mean those were his defenses In Tennessee. Much like how this is Kyle's offense here. He's caused problems for Mahomes every time they've played. That's who we got to focus on.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
??? I just found humor in the bickering. I was reading this like family/sibling banter to me. No disrespect meant to anyone. I don't think you would find any other person in here, including Kolohe who I've had some big arguments with in the past, accusing me of a lack of class...

But hey, I understand my response bothered you, so my apologies. I respectfully disagree with folks who have the opinion that we could do better than Kyle or that he should be fired. I acknowledge he isn't perfect, but no one else would be either.

No clue what he's even upset about…weird imo.

Originally posted by hello49:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49ers81:
I honestly don't get this enthusiasm for Belichick. The guy is in his 70's and was the head coach of one of the strongest dynasties in the history of the league, so why would he want to go back to be a DC in the first place. He is also a brusque, tight-lipped, seemingly, unpleasant guy who is used to having complete control over football operations. I don't see how anyone can think he would be a good fit here personality-wise, regardless of what his past resume looks like. I think there is also a legitimate question about who was really responsible for the twenty-year run in New England. Belichick had failed in Cleveland and then he failed in New England as soon as Brady left. There has to be a younger, more dynamic option, than him available.

Belichick knows defense. At 70+ he isn't likely to get another hC job. If he wants to stay in football, what better place to come. He can just concentrate on what he loves and hopefully go to another SB or two. He wouldn't need to control all parts of the team. Just defense. He was one of the few coaches that could slow down Bill Walsh and Montana.

I have a feeling, Pete Carroll, Bill Belichick, Mike Vrabel, Brandon Staley or Ron Rivera will be the DC. I just don't think these guys wanna sit out the season and what better place to have success than a team coming from a Super Bowl. I also have this feeling that Carroll and Belichick are on the top of Shanahan's wish list, Carroll for the system Shanahan prefers and Belichick because hey he's Belichick.

Yeah, I just don't see us going with a coach who hasn't been at least a DC in the past, since we are definitely in Win Now mode, and probably won't want to go with an inexperienced DC.

I'll take one of the names I mentioned anyone of those names gives 49er fans hope again. I just don't see it in Daniel Bullocks or any other in-house candidate.