Who will be the Niners new DC?-Rooney Rule Now Applicable

Mike Nolan

Originally posted by Cosmo:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Here's my list of 10 I'd consider that should be available:

Ron Rivera (depending on scheme fit)

Marquand Manuel (Jets secondary coach)

Daniel Bullocks (internal hire)

Nick Sorenson (internal hire)

Brendan Daly (3 years as KC DL coach, past 2 years as LB coach)

D'Anton Lynn (USC DC)

Chris Kiffin (Houston LB coach)

Jerry Gray (defensive passing game coach with Green Bay)

Kris Richard (Co-DC in New Orleans 2022)

Richard Sherman (the shock hire), I'm half joking, many would rip this move.

Anyone thinking Bill or Carroll are coming here are dreaming. Staley is a terrible idea and Rex doesn't fit the culture IMO.

Rivera 🤮

I feel like if we were gonna hire within they would have don't it last yr. Pass on all those guys.

I want nothing to do with anyone in GB as far as defense goes

agree with the 70 something guys. Just let them retire

The rest are interesting. Not splashy but neither were Saleh/Ryans.

Have to agree. Of those realistically available, I'd like to see Kiffin here most. Weren't Saleh and Ryan's both former LB coaches?

Yes which is why it fits with our wide nine scheme. If you get someone who knows the front end like Demeco and Salah then it gels much better than a secondary coach.

Absolute no to Ron Rivera. HELLLLLLL no.

Outside of Jim Schwartz, the dream scenario would be Dave Merritt with Bill Belicheck as a defensive advisor a la Vic Fangio. There's no way Bill takes a DC job, but a part time gig as an advisor might make sense professionally for him at this stage in his career.

As for Merritt:
Played LB collegiately and in the NFL - Shanahan talked about the defense operating operating through a LB perspective.

Was on the coaching staff for the Giants during both superbowl wins over the Patriots

Has been DB coach under spags with the chiefs since 2019.

20+ years NFL coaching experience, not old, and nets a comp pick if poached.

Problem is, he has been vocal about wanting to stay put until his kids are grown. His kids are 15 and 18 I think, so it's unlikely, but maybe the right offer makes him think 15 is old enough. This is the only reason he has never been promoted.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Some of these names are gross. This 49ers' team is aging and aging fast. The window with this group is closing. I'd be surprised if they had more than 1 or 2 more legitimate shots at a SB with this group. I don't think Kyle should be looking for some random young DC to learn on the job and hopefully develop into a good DC. This isn't 2017 when they were building the roster from the ground up. This roster is built to win now, and they need to strike the iron while it's still hot--for now. He needs someone with championship experience that he can hand the defensive keys to and not worry about. Someone that comes in and takes over the defense from day 1.

Overstated. You have AA, Hargrave, Trent, Juice, and Kittle. The rest are in their primes. That's a lot of key guys but not the majority. With the right moves, we can infuse some new life into the team.

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Absolute no to Ron Rivera. HELLLLLLL no.

Outside of Jim Schwartz, the dream scenario would be Dave Merritt with Bill Belicheck as a defensive advisor a la Vic Fangio. There's no way Bill takes a DC job, but a part time gig as an advisor might make sense professionally for him at this stage in his career.

As for Merritt:
Played LB collegiately and in the NFL - Shanahan talked about the defense operating operating through a LB perspective.

Was on the coaching staff for the Giants during both superbowl wins over the Patriots

Has been DB coach under spags with the chiefs since 2019.

20+ years NFL coaching experience, not old, and nets a comp pick if poached.

Problem is, he has been vocal about wanting to stay put until his kids are grown. His kids are 15 and 18 I think, so it's unlikely, but maybe the right offer makes him think 15 is old enough. This is the only reason he has never been promoted.

How many successful NFL coordinators didn't call plays until they were 24 years into their NFL coaching careers?

If a guy gets passed up over and over like that, there's usually a good reason for it and it's not him wanting to stay put, otherwise he would have never joined Wilks's staff in Arizona.

Seems like we have no idea who they are going after. No one has leaked a list and most of the obvious candidates have been hired already.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Some of these names are gross. This 49ers' team is aging and aging fast. The window with this group is closing. I'd be surprised if they had more than 1 or 2 more legitimate shots at a SB with this group. I don't think Kyle should be looking for some random young DC to learn on the job and hopefully develop into a good DC. This isn't 2017 when they were building the roster from the ground up. This roster is built to win now, and they need to strike the iron while it's still hot--for now. He needs someone with championship experience that he can hand the defensive keys to and not worry about. Someone that comes in and takes over the defense from day 1.

Shanny has to find a way to bring in Belichick--either as DC or an advisor. That's the move to be made.

I agree much different situation than when Saleh or Ryans was hired.

Originally posted by Jcool:
Seems like we have no idea who they are going after. No one has leaked a list and most of the obvious candidates have been hired already.

This guy is free and ready to go for Round 2.

Feels like a lot of names are being thrown out because they're names rather than a good fit.

IMO if we don't hire from within it will be an assistant on a team who runs a similar scheme where the WZ will respond with a mixture of "who?" And "This is the worst hire ever because "insert name" was available".

Originally posted by Jcool:
Seems like we have no idea who they are going after. No one has leaked a list and most of the obvious candidates have been hired already.

There's been whispers of Staley and Vrabel but that's about it.

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Absolute no to Ron Rivera. HELLLLLLL no.

Outside of Jim Schwartz, the dream scenario would be Dave Merritt with Bill Belicheck as a defensive advisor a la Vic Fangio. There's no way Bill takes a DC job, but a part time gig as an advisor might make sense professionally for him at this stage in his career.

As for Merritt:
Played LB collegiately and in the NFL - Shanahan talked about the defense operating operating through a LB perspective.

Was on the coaching staff for the Giants during both superbowl wins over the Patriots

Has been DB coach under spags with the chiefs since 2019.

20+ years NFL coaching experience, not old, and nets a comp pick if poached.

Problem is, he has been vocal about wanting to stay put until his kids are grown. His kids are 15 and 18 I think, so it's unlikely, but maybe the right offer makes him think 15 is old enough. This is the only reason he has never been promoted.

It'd be amazing if we can pry Schwartz away the Browns. He's shown the wide-9 can still be super effective.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Some of these names are gross. This 49ers' team is aging and aging fast. The window with this group is closing. I'd be surprised if they had more than 1 or 2 more legitimate shots at a SB with this group. I don't think Kyle should be looking for some random young DC to learn on the job and hopefully develop into a good DC. This isn't 2017 when they were building the roster from the ground up. This roster is built to win now, and they need to strike the iron while it's still hot--for now. He needs someone with championship experience that he can hand the defensive keys to and not worry about. Someone that comes in and takes over the defense from day 1.

Shanny has to find a way to bring in Belichick--either as DC or an advisor. That's the move to be made.

I'm telling you, everyone dreaming about Belichick is going to be disappointed.

He may seem like the most amazing possible hire on paper. In fact, I would argue he actually is. But it's extremely unlikely he steps down from wanting to be a HC + GM to being a DC + Assistant HC. Plus, him and Kyle in the same office every day and on the sideline together could be a ticking time bomb waiting to happen at any moment.

Bill Belichick's mind as DC on this team would be instant favorites. But you're not getting just the mind. You're getting the ego too.

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Mike Nolan

No, Mike Nowin

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Some of these names are gross. This 49ers' team is aging and aging fast. The window with this group is closing. I'd be surprised if they had more than 1 or 2 more legitimate shots at a SB with this group. I don't think Kyle should be looking for some random young DC to learn on the job and hopefully develop into a good DC. This isn't 2017 when they were building the roster from the ground up. This roster is built to win now, and they need to strike the iron while it's still hot--for now. He needs someone with championship experience that he can hand the defensive keys to and not worry about. Someone that comes in and takes over the defense from day 1.

Shanny has to find a way to bring in Belichick--either as DC or an advisor. That's the move to be made.

I agree much different situation than when Saleh or Ryans was hired.

I think the salary cap and drafting is a bigger threat than age. The core is mostly in their prime. But one more nonproducing draft and we could be finished.

We are going to really be depending on guys like Ronnie Bell, Darrell Luter, Kalia Davis, Nick Zakelj, Dee Winters, Jalen Graham, Brayden Willis, J'Aiyir Brown, etc. These guys have got to play more in 2024.

Originally posted by father49er:

Originally posted by adrianlesnar:
Absolute no to Ron Rivera. HELLLLLLL no.

Outside of Jim Schwartz, the dream scenario would be Dave Merritt with Bill Belicheck as a defensive advisor a la Vic Fangio. There's no way Bill takes a DC job, but a part time gig as an advisor might make sense professionally for him at this stage in his career.

As for Merritt:
Played LB collegiately and in the NFL - Shanahan talked about the defense operating operating through a LB perspective.

Was on the coaching staff for the Giants during both superbowl wins over the Patriots

Has been DB coach under spags with the chiefs since 2019.

20+ years NFL coaching experience, not old, and nets a comp pick if poached.

Problem is, he has been vocal about wanting to stay put until his kids are grown. His kids are 15 and 18 I think, so it's unlikely, but maybe the right offer makes him think 15 is old enough. This is the only reason he has never been promoted.

It'd be amazing if we can pry Schwartz away the Browns. He's shown the wide-9 can still be super effective.

I have no idea if he's even interested in coming here but could you slap the assistant Head coach/defensive coordinator title to him and then it would not be a lateral move?