Who will be the Niners new DC?-Rooney Rule Now Applicable

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
The only positive about getting Staley would be that no team will hire him as a HC for quite some time. He's gonna get the McDaniel treament

He kind of seems like the defensive version of Shanahan. He can design a defense better then almost anyone, but he needs the right plays to execute it. If he cant figure it out here, he probably isn't getting another shot as a coordinator job.

He can design a defense better than almost anyone? Lmao. Based on what? 1 season with the Rams or the 70 plus one of the worst teams in the NFL dropped on him?

Didn't say he was producing good defensives with the Chargers. Just said he was really good as designing plays. I mean was Shanahan bad when the offense wasn't scoring points in 3 of his first 4 years or did he not have the players to execute it? I would like to think a coach like him would do well with the talent the 49ers have on defense. I like his odds better then any position coach being brought up. No coach available now is going to be perfect.

I get what you're saying. I'm wary of bringing in a rookie DC to manage a defense of a team that needs to win now so Staley isn't a rookie DC - he's had one season.

One thing to know with Staley's system that some of us may not be considering is that there would be a complete overhaul of how the front 7 plays. Are we okay with the risk of having some players not pick up the system, for example, until week 5? What if some don't pick it up at all? It affects the DL and offball LBs.

Anyone know what the Rams ranked on defense in 2020?

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
The only positive about getting Staley would be that no team will hire him as a HC for quite some time. He's gonna get the McDaniel treament

He kind of seems like the defensive version of Shanahan. He can design a defense better then almost anyone, but he needs the right plays to execute it. If he cant figure it out here, he probably isn't getting another shot as a coordinator job.

He can design a defense better than almost anyone? Lmao. Based on what? 1 season with the Rams or the 70 plus one of the worst teams in the NFL dropped on him?

Didn't say he was producing good defensives with the Chargers. Just said he was really good as designing plays. I mean was Shanahan bad when the offense wasn't scoring points in 3 of his first 4 years or did he not have the players to execute it? I would like to think a coach like him would do well with the talent the 49ers have on defense. I like his odds better then any position coach being brought up. No coach available now is going to be perfect.

I get what you're saying. I'm wary of bringing in a rookie DC to manage a defense of a team that needs to win now so Staley isn't a rookie DC - he's had one season.

One thing to know with Staley's system that some of us may not be considering is that there would be a complete overhaul of how the front 7 plays. Are we okay with the risk of having some players not pick up the system, for example, until week 5? What if some don't pick it up at all? It affects the DL and offball LBs.

I really don't want the 49ers playing a 3-4. Bosa is not a linebacker. That would be a deal breaker IMO.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
The only positive about getting Staley would be that no team will hire him as a HC for quite some time. He's gonna get the McDaniel treament

He kind of seems like the defensive version of Shanahan. He can design a defense better then almost anyone, but he needs the right plays to execute it. If he cant figure it out here, he probably isn't getting another shot as a coordinator job.

He can design a defense better than almost anyone? Lmao. Based on what? 1 season with the Rams or the 70 plus one of the worst teams in the NFL dropped on him?

Didn't say he was producing good defensives with the Chargers. Just said he was really good as designing plays. I mean was Shanahan bad when the offense wasn't scoring points in 3 of his first 4 years or did he not have the players to execute it? I would like to think a coach like him would do well with the talent the 49ers have on defense. I like his odds better then any position coach being brought up. No coach available now is going to be perfect.

I get what you're saying. I'm wary of bringing in a rookie DC to manage a defense of a team that needs to win now so Staley isn't a rookie DC - he's had one season.

One thing to know with Staley's system that some of us may not be considering is that there would be a complete overhaul of how the front 7 plays. Are we okay with the risk of having some players not pick up the system, for example, until week 5? What if some don't pick it up at all? It affects the DL and offball LBs.

I really don't want the 49ers playing a 3-4. Bosa is not a linebacker. That would be a deal breaker IMO.

It should be someone who runs a 4-3 and versed in the wide 9.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by NinerJeff:
If Kyle hires that worthless gutless pos Staley...I SWEAR TO GOD!!!!😡😡😡😡😡😡

I'd rather have Staley than someone internal. Kyle is a p***y. He panics real quick. Although that is to our detriment during games, that can be an advantage for us off the field. Remember when McVay signed Stafford ? The idiot panicked and traded away the immediate future for Trey Lance. He panicked and chased down CMC when he learned McVay was trying to make a play for him.

In this regard, after this humiliating loss where everyone is pointing fingers at him, Kyle will panic. He's not hiring someone internal "hoping" he can become the next Saleh or Ryans. He's going to swing big. See how he tried to get Brady last offseason because he was unsure of Brock's status ? You can believe he's going to go through a laundry list of stars that include Belichick, Vrabel, Carroll before looking at guys like Staley and Schwartz. No way he goes for a young gun and no way he picks up some other teams's assistants.

Maybe most of this is true, but according to York, Kyle was the one trying to pump the brakes on the CMC trade....

That's it guys I've decided I'm all in on Belicheat. I don't effing care how old he is. Let him come in have complete carte blanche running the defense and do whatever the hell he wants. We have no idea if or how he would mesh with Kyle. They could be like oil and water or PB&J, hopefully the second one. Maybe he can employ some of his tried & true cheating techniques every once in a while. Whatever it takes to get us over the top once and for all.

Staley is a proven derp. I don't want him on this staff.

Originally posted by Niners99:
Staley is a proven derp. I don't want him on this staff.

Guess your all in on Chris Kiffin.

Originally posted by Niners99:
Staley is a proven derp. I don't want him on this staff.

Staley will never be head coach again. And he did reasonably well with his time as DC. And he plays aggressive, which is exactly how our team should be playing on defense.

Is he the best candidate ? No. But if we can't someone like Belichick or Ryan here, then I'd rather have him than some internal project hire like Bullock or someone like Kiffin.

We need a home run hitter as our D coordinator. Some of these coaches you guys keep bringing up, you'd think this team is in rebuild mode…

Main thing I like about Bellichek is the pedigree obviously. I know he's a hard ass and players don't tend to like it, but maybe he could tone it down a bit as DC (big maybe). It's been a week since the SB and I'm just starting to get over it. The thing that pisses me off the most is that at times it seems the team lost focus and effort. I'm also sick and tied of Spags outclassing our offense and maybe Bill could even it out for us. Scheme could be an issue though.

My guess is we get some up and comer. We need somebody that can get our aggressiveness and creativity back on defense.

Originally posted by ninerjok:
That's it guys I've decided I'm all in on Belicheat. I don't effing care how old he is. Let him come in have complete carte blanche running the defense and do whatever the hell he wants. We have no idea if or how he would mesh with Kyle. They could be like oil and water or PB&J, hopefully the second one. Maybe he can employ some of his tried & true cheating techniques every once in a while. Whatever it takes to get us over the top once and for all.

Belichick is very doable. Here's what you offer:

1) Money talks
2) no press conferences
3) assistant HC type position, but primary focus on defense. Kyle doesn't mess with your unit and does not over ride your schemes or play calls.
4) you have pro bowl players at every level. Bosa, Hargrave, Warner, Ward, Huff. Bring in anyone from NE (players or coaches) that will improve the unit
5) high probability of winning the SB
6) if probability changes because the head coach chokes again, you're one step away from becoming head coach…

Originally posted by DrEll:
Belichick is very doable. Here's what you offer:

1) Money talks
2) no press conferences
3) assistant HC type position, but primary focus on defense. Kyle doesn't mess with your unit and does not over ride your schemes or play calls.
4) you have pro bowl players at every level. Bosa, Hargrave, Warner, Ward, Huff. Bring in anyone from NE (players or coaches) that will improve the unit
5) high probability of winning the SB
6) if probability changes because the head coach chokes again, you're one step away from becoming head coach…

Why would he care about money? Also he has already won Superbowls as a DC why would he want to do that now? He wants the all time wins record. Cant do that as a DC and cant tie Brady with Superbowls as DC.

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by Niners99:
Staley is a proven derp. I don't want him on this staff.

Staley will never be head coach again. And he did reasonably well with his time as DC. And he plays aggressive, which is exactly how our team should be playing on defense.

Is he the best candidate ? No. But if we can't someone like Belichick or Ryan here, then I'd rather have him than some internal project hire like Bullock or someone like Kiffin.

We need a home run hitter as our D coordinator. Some of these coaches you guys keep bringing up, you'd think this team is in rebuild mode…

What do you mean by Staley plays aggressive? Like he goes for it in 4th down? Going for it on 4th down is not applicable to him as a DC.

lol with all the successful HC talent we've put out there in recent years, I can assure you our next one wont be Belichick.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
The only positive about getting Staley would be that no team will hire him as a HC for quite some time. He's gonna get the McDaniel treament

He kind of seems like the defensive version of Shanahan. He can design a defense better then almost anyone, but he needs the right plays to execute it. If he cant figure it out here, he probably isn't getting another shot as a coordinator job.

He can design a defense better than almost anyone? Lmao. Based on what? 1 season with the Rams or the 70 plus one of the worst teams in the NFL dropped on him?

Didn't say he was producing good defensives with the Chargers. Just said he was really good as designing plays. I mean was Shanahan bad when the offense wasn't scoring points in 3 of his first 4 years or did he not have the players to execute it? I would like to think a coach like him would do well with the talent the 49ers have on defense. I like his odds better then any position coach being brought up. No coach available now is going to be perfect.

Can't use the Chargers to judge him. If we go by that, both Spags and Schwartz should be working at the local McDonalds based on their HC records.

Not all coordinators make good coaches. Spags, Schwartz, Staley, Shanahan. Good coordinators. Awful head coaches…