Who will be the Niners new DC?-Rooney Rule Now Applicable

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Whomever Kyle feels he can control the most, with the least abrasion, will be his guy. Personality mesh is key here.

Is anything informing this opinion other than your personal bias? Is there a history of Kyle micromanaging defensive coordinators? Seems to me, he would keep Wilkes around if this were really about control. But we all know the Kyle = Control Freak is just a dog-whistle to those loyal to previous regimes.

History shows the exact opposite but no one's here for that.

Brandon Staley come on down. Can't be any worse than Wilks. Might not be as good as Ryans. That should still be good enough to have the defense humming next season until Kyle finds a way to f**k things up on offense…

Originally posted by Izyniner:

Originally posted by pd24:
What does Ron Rivera run?

My guess would be a 12.4.

Yeah and that's still faster than me.

They should have just kept Wilks if they hire Staley

Originally posted by LundyLove:
When will we know?

I would think they'd need to before draft prep and free agency ramps up

Probably the day before the draft.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Control the most? That's the opposite of what he wants. He had that with wilks. He wants the guy running the D to do his thing, so long as it fits the ideology of how that defense was built. Kyle did NOT want to have to take over defensive duties and have to fix s**t in game.

how anyone can blame him for stepping in when wilks is calling C0 blitzes on the last play before halftime or noting running some sort of man on these 3rd downs is beyond me.

he let Ryans and Saleh do there thing.

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Whomever Kyle feels he can control the most, with the least abrasion, will be his guy. Personality mesh is key here.

Is anything informing this opinion other than your personal bias? Is there a history of Kyle micromanaging defensive coordinators? Seems to me, he would keep Wilkes around if this were really about control. But we all know the Kyle = Control Freak is just a dog-whistle to those loyal to previous regimes.

Absolutely! You don't remember Kyle working weekly with Saleh, challenging his initial game plans and then building it together? You don't remember him calling a TO in the Superbowl to correct a defensive call he wanted over Wilks?

Kyle runs this b***h. All of it.

Now, would he love a guy like Fangio where he could have peace of mind to turn the unit over too? Who wouldn't.

But until then, he's like Bellicheat and has his hands in deep with the defense. That's part of his original DNA.

Schneider was one of the more aggressive ST's coaches. Now he's ultra conservative and ranked 26th like Hightower. That's Kyle too.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by DrEll:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Whomever Kyle feels he can control the most, with the least abrasion, will be his guy. Personality mesh is key here.

Then Staley it is…

Oof.

Wilks had freedom to call his game from the booth until the bye week. Kyle had to tighten a leash on and remind him to call cover 3 bc the D looked lost trying to stop the run getting lined up in man and blitzes with no pressure. Kyle had to do something as the head coach I'm sure he'd rather focus his attention on calling plays. Honestly I wouldn't mind Stalely as an assistant to be groomed but not as current DC. Bill Bellicheat as a consultant? I'd like Vrabel but I think Pete Carol is the hire as Kyle likes that cover 3 scheme.

Originally posted by bud49:

Originally posted by LundyLove:
When will we know?

I would think they'd need to before draft prep and free agency ramps up

Probably the day before the draft.

I'd imagine before then so the DC can pick a couple players like he let Wilks pick Oliver.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Control the most? That's the opposite of what he wants. He had that with wilks. He wants the guy running the D to do his thing, so long as it fits the ideology of how that defense was built. Kyle did NOT want to have to take over defensive duties and have to fix s**t in game.

how anyone can blame him for stepping in when wilks is calling C0 blitzes on the last play before halftime or noting running some sort of man on these 3rd downs is beyond me.

he let Ryans and Saleh do there thing.

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Whomever Kyle feels he can control the most, with the least abrasion, will be his guy. Personality mesh is key here.

Is anything informing this opinion other than your personal bias? Is there a history of Kyle micromanaging defensive coordinators? Seems to me, he would keep Wilkes around if this were really about control. But we all know the Kyle = Control Freak is just a dog-whistle to those loyal to previous regimes.

Absolutely! You don't remember Kyle working weekly with Saleh, challenging his initial game plans and then building it together? You don't remember him calling a TO in the Superbowl to correct a defensive call he wanted over Wilks?

Kyle runs this b***h. All of it.

Now, would he love a guy like Fangio where he could have peace of mind to turn the unit over too? Who wouldn't.

But until then, he's like Bellicheat and has his hands in deep with the defense. That's part of his original DNA.

Schneider was one of the more aggressive ST's coaches. Now he's ultra conservative and ranked 26th like Hightower. That's Kyle too.

Lol keep doubling down

When did working together with your subordinate become controlling them?

I thought it was a HCs job to work with his staff... Lol

Hot damn! No leaks on who the team wants to interview at least? I'm sure they have a list of candidates prior to letting Wilks got the pink slip.

Yea I give KS a lot of s**t but he doesn't want to be hands on with the defense unless it just got that bad. He's said before that he let's the d coordinator do his thing and doesn't but in unless there is a major issue.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Control the most? That's the opposite of what he wants. He had that with wilks. He wants the guy running the D to do his thing, so long as it fits the ideology of how that defense was built. Kyle did NOT want to have to take over defensive duties and have to fix s**t in game.

how anyone can blame him for stepping in when wilks is calling C0 blitzes on the last play before halftime or noting running some sort of man on these 3rd downs is beyond me.

he let Ryans and Saleh do there thing.

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Whomever Kyle feels he can control the most, with the least abrasion, will be his guy. Personality mesh is key here.

Is anything informing this opinion other than your personal bias? Is there a history of Kyle micromanaging defensive coordinators? Seems to me, he would keep Wilkes around if this were really about control. But we all know the Kyle = Control Freak is just a dog-whistle to those loyal to previous regimes.

Absolutely! You don't remember Kyle working weekly with Saleh, challenging his initial game plans and then building it together? You don't remember him calling a TO in the Superbowl to correct a defensive call he wanted over Wilks?

Kyle runs this b***h. All of it.

Now, would he love a guy like Fangio where he could have peace of mind to turn the unit over too? Who wouldn't.

But until then, he's like Bellicheat and has his hands in deep with the defense. That's part of his original DNA.

Schneider was one of the more aggressive ST's coaches. Now he's ultra conservative and ranked 26th like Hightower. That's Kyle too.

Your world is so binary.

Kyle calls a TO because his D coordinator is not on the same page does not make him a control freak, it makes him a HC doing what needs to be done in the moment. Had Wilkes not reverted to blitzing with a soft zone, I'm sure Kyle, as well as everyone screaming on their couches, would have preferred to holster that TO. Wilkes was fired, because when push came to shove, he reverted to habits that had proven to be ineffective throughout the season. The world knew it, so did Kyle, thus the TO, thus the firing.

The lens you see this staff and FO is clouded in bias. Any other coach calls a TO, that's just a guy doing his job, but Kyle, nah, let's cherry-pick that to portray the preconception you have that he's a control freak. Nonsense approach to pick and choose evidence to fit your narrative, but I'm sure you don't see it that way or else you would have improved your argumentation long ago.

Weird, before last week all we heard was Kyle would rather solely focus on offense, and let his DC be the "head coach" of that side of the ball.

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Control the most? That's the opposite of what he wants. He had that with wilks. He wants the guy running the D to do his thing, so long as it fits the ideology of how that defense was built. Kyle did NOT want to have to take over defensive duties and have to fix s**t in game.

how anyone can blame him for stepping in when wilks is calling C0 blitzes on the last play before halftime or noting running some sort of man on these 3rd downs is beyond me.

he let Ryans and Saleh do there thing.

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Whomever Kyle feels he can control the most, with the least abrasion, will be his guy. Personality mesh is key here.

Is anything informing this opinion other than your personal bias? Is there a history of Kyle micromanaging defensive coordinators? Seems to me, he would keep Wilkes around if this were really about control. But we all know the Kyle = Control Freak is just a dog-whistle to those loyal to previous regimes.

Absolutely! You don't remember Kyle working weekly with Saleh, challenging his initial game plans and then building it together? You don't remember him calling a TO in the Superbowl to correct a defensive call he wanted over Wilks?

Kyle runs this b***h. All of it.

Now, would he love a guy like Fangio where he could have peace of mind to turn the unit over too? Who wouldn't.

But until then, he's like Bellicheat and has his hands in deep with the defense. That's part of his original DNA.

Schneider was one of the more aggressive ST's coaches. Now he's ultra conservative and ranked 26th like Hightower. That's Kyle too.

Your world is so binary.

Kyle calls a TO because his D coordinator is not on the same page does not make him a control freak, it makes him a HC doing what needs to be done in the moment. Had Wilkes not reverted to blitzing with a soft zone, I'm sure Kyle, as well as everyone screaming on their couches, would have preferred to holster that TO. Wilkes was fired, because when push came to shove, he reverted to habits that had proven to be ineffective throughout the season. The world knew it, so did Kyle, thus the TO, thus the firing.

The lens you see this staff and FO is clouded in bias. Any other coach calls a TO, that's just a guy doing his job, but Kyle, nah, let's cherry-pick that to portray the preconception you have that he's a control freak. Nonsense approach to pick and choose evidence to fit your narrative, but I'm sure you don't see it that way or else you would have improved your argumentation long ago.

LMAO.

So you don't think Kyle works with his DC's every week, grills them on the game plans, solidifies the defensive plans with them, listens to every DC call coming over the headset and overrules when he feels it's needed?

Some HC/OC's don't touch that side of the ball. That's not Kyle. Kyle runs this b***h. Every aspect of the team.

I'm also not even suggesting it's a bad thing. In fact, I want an offensive mind who started on defense to grill defensive plans for all potential holes.

Hence why I said, what I said. Your next DC will be one he can "control" and mesh with in personality. It wouldn't surprise me if it was an in-hoiuse first-time DC for that very reason.