Who will be the Niners new DC?-Rooney Rule Now Applicable

How is aggressiveness and conservatism reflected in special teams rankings exactly?

Oh that's right another NC made up narrative.

Originally posted by NCommand:
LMAO.

So you don't think Kyle works with his DC's every week, grills them on the game plans, solidifies the defensive plans with them, listens to every DC call coming over the headset and overrules when he feels it's needed?

Some HC/OC's don't touch that side of the ball. That's not Kyle. Kyle runs this b***h. Every aspect of the team.

I'm also not even suggesting it's a bad thing. In fact, I want an offensive mind who started on defense to grill defensive plans for all potential holes.

Hence why I said, what I said.

Whether you think it's a bad thing or not he clearly isn't micromanaging the defense throughout his tenure. You can certainly rule out that he isn't regularly overriding calls if you have even a slight understanding of how playcalls are made and understand how the play clock works.

He has a scheme he wants the DC to run and I'm sure he has input on weekly gameplans. That's completely normal.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by NCommand:
LMAO.

So you don't think Kyle works with his DC's every week, grills them on the game plans, solidifies the defensive plans with them, listens to every DC call coming over the headset and overrules when he feels it's needed?

Some HC/OC's don't touch that side of the ball. That's not Kyle. Kyle runs this b***h. Every aspect of the team.

I'm also not even suggesting it's a bad thing. In fact, I want an offensive mind who started on defense to grill defensive plans for all potential holes.

Hence why I said, what I said.

Whether you think it's a bad thing or not he clearly isn't micromanaging the defense throughout his tenure. You can certainly rule out that he isn't regularly overriding calls if you have even a slight understanding of how playcalls are made and understand how the play clock works.

He has a scheme he wants the DC to run and I'm sure he has input on weekly gameplans. That's completely normal.

Everything I outlined is a form of control. To which level/extreme you define that, including mircomanaging, that's up to you. His next choice will be very much in line with that control level.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Everything I outlined is a form of control. To which level/extreme you define that, including mircomanaging, that's up to you. His next choice will be very much in line with that control level.

Well you said he overrules playcalls when he feels the need to. That doesn't happen without calling a TO. You can count on one hand how many times that happened this year.

And I don't get the point about 'control'. Thats what the HC is. He's the manager. He hires the DC, provides the scheme he wants to be ran, and then the DC has freedom within those guidelines. Play calling is almost strictly on the DC. Fundamentals of the position groups are on the position coaches.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Everything I outlined is a form of control. To which level/extreme you define that, including mircomanaging, that's up to you. His next choice will be very much in line with that control level.

Well you said he overrules playcalls when he feels the need to. That doesn't happen without calling a TO. You can count on one hand how many times that happened this year.

And I don't get the point about 'control'. Thats what the HC is. He's the manager. He hires the DC, provides the scheme he wants to be ran, and then the DC has freedom within those guidelines. Play calling is almost strictly on the DC. Fundamentals of the position groups are on the position coaches.

Kyle runs this b***h.

He controls who he hires, the system he wants, the players who play in it, the priority of that group, is involved in the weekly game plans, solifying them, determines where the DC calls games from, listens to every play and signs off on them in-game in accordance with the game plan, overrules calls, etc.

Doesn't a manager, control?

Vrabel, can we give him a 3 year contract so he can't leave in a year.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Kyle runs this b***h.

He controls who he hires, the system he wants, the players who play in it, the priority of that group, is involved in the weekly game plans, solifying them, determines where the DC calls games from, listens to every play and signs off on them in-game in accordance with the game plan, overrules calls, etc.

Doesn't a manager, control?

Incorrect. He has 6 opportunities to change plays throughout the game. It requires* using a TO. He's not 'signing-off' on 50+ playcalls in a 40 second window my friend.

And he clearly didn't control where Wilks called the game from until they believed it became necessary to make a change. He was up in the booth for half the season when our two previous DCs were on the field

Omg STFU with the Kyle runs this b***h s**t.

Originally posted by Team49ers:
Vrabel, can we give him a 3 year contract so he can't leave in a year.

Can't block coordinators from interviewing for HC jobs.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Kyle runs this b***h.

He controls who he hires, the system he wants, the players who play in it, the priority of that group, is involved in the weekly game plans, solifying them, determines where the DC calls games from, listens to every play and signs off on them in-game in accordance with the game plan, overrules calls, etc.

Doesn't a manager, control?

Incorrect. He has 6 opportunities to change plays throughout the game. It requires* using a TO. He's not 'signing-off' on 50+ playcalls in a 40 second window my friend.

And he clearly didn't control where Wilks called the game from until they believed it became necessary to make a change. He was up in the booth for half the season when our two previous DCs were on the field

You don't think Kyle like Harbaugh, isn't listening to every call coming through his headset? And isn't communicating with Wilks about them?

Sure, if they can't decide and it runs over, he's forced to call a T.O.

Yeah, HE decided where he called those plays from. Control.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Kyle runs this b***h.

How is that different from any other HC,or at least every other successful HC? If you're not in tune with every aspect of your team, you're not going to last very long.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Kyle runs this b***h.

How is that different from any other HC,or at least every other successful HC? If you're not in tune with every aspect of your team, you're not going to last very long.

Exactly. So why take offense to a manager/HC who wants to control his own operation?

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Omg STFU with the Kyle runs this b***h s**t.

He's describing every good HC and painting it as a negative. When Bob Sutton was the DC in KC there was a lot of talk about Reid looking his shoulder over his final season. Since then Spagnuolo has built trust so I'm guessing Reid isn't as hands on but he's still going to be involved with constructing the defensive game plan. Any good coach will be heavily involved with every aspect of the game planning and in-game adjustments.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Omg STFU with the Kyle runs this b***h s**t.

He's describing every good HC and painting it as a negative. When Bob Sutton was the DC in KC there was a lot of talk about Reid looking his shoulder over his final season. Since then Spagnuolo has built trust so I'm guessing Reid isn't as hands on but he's still going to be involved with constructing the defensive game plan. Any good coach will be heavily involved with every aspect of the game planning and in-game adjustments.

How am I painting it as a negative when I just said I want him to grill his DC from both angles? Kyle runs this b***h.

I'm also not even suggesting it's a bad thing. In fact, I want an offensive mind who started on defense to grill defensive plans for all potential holes.

Originally posted by NCommand:
You don't think Kyle like Harbaugh, isn't listening to every call coming through his headset? And isn't communicating with Wilks about them?

Sure, if they can't decide and it runs over, he's forced to call a T.O.

Yeah, HE decided where he called those plays from. Control.

I'm being pretty clear here, and responding to what you wrote which was also pretty clear. Is he listening to playcalls? Yes. Is he overriding playcalls throughout the game as you described? No. He would have to use timeouts to do that.

Wilks relays playcall to Warner. Kyle says no wait, call something else instead or call this play specifically. Warner has to wait for correction. Then relay information to defense. Then get set. All before the offense decides to snap the ball which is not necessarily the end of a 40 second time window. This s**t isn't happening without a timeout. We get 6 per game and its not hard to realize that outside of a handful of plays throughout the season, they are used on offense.

Beyond that, as Phoenix is also pointing out to you, you are describing completely normal HC activities.