Who will be the Niners new DC?-Rooney Rule Now Applicable

Originally posted by NCommand:
Absolutely! You don't remember Kyle working weekly with Saleh, challenging his initial game plans and then building it together? You don't remember him calling a TO in the Superbowl to correct a defensive call he wanted over Wilks?

Kyle runs this b***h. All of it.

Now, would he love a guy like Fangio where he could have peace of mind to turn the unit over too? Who wouldn't.

But until then, he's like Bellicheat and has his hands in deep with the defense. That's part of his original DNA.

Schneider was one of the more aggressive ST's coaches. Now he's ultra conservative and ranked 26th like Hightower. That's Kyle too.

Literally one of the reasons wilks is gone is because Kyle had to do way more on the defensive side than he wanted too…every HC has final say in just about everything. If he doesn't then he's not a HC.

Kyle doesn't want have to run both sides of the ball as much has he has too this yr. He didn't have faith in Wilks ability to run the scheme appropriately.

Originally posted by Team49ers:
Vrabel, can we give him a 3 year contract so he can't leave in a year.

That s**t doesn't matter if it's for a HC spot.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Absolutely! You don't remember Kyle working weekly with Saleh, challenging his initial game plans and then building it together? You don't remember him calling a TO in the Superbowl to correct a defensive call he wanted over Wilks?

Kyle runs this b***h. All of it.

Now, would he love a guy like Fangio where he could have peace of mind to turn the unit over too? Who wouldn't.

But until then, he's like Bellicheat and has his hands in deep with the defense. That's part of his original DNA.

Schneider was one of the more aggressive ST's coaches. Now he's ultra conservative and ranked 26th like Hightower. That's Kyle too.

Literally one of the reasons wilks is gone is because Kyle had to do way more on the defensive side than he wanted too…every HC has final say in just about everything. If he doesn't then he's not a HC.

Kyle doesn't want have to run both sides of the ball as much has he has too this yr. He didn't have faith in Wilks ability to run the scheme appropriately.

That's EXACTLY my point. The next dude he's bringing in is going to be someone he feels he can control, lay the foundation with and mesh with from a personality perspective. Once that DC has earned Kyle's stripes and he feels he can back off some, like with Saleh, after all his early learning-curve trials and tribulations, he'll do just that. But what I outlined will most likely still occur weekly because he adds value there. He's not going to just turn a whole defense over to a DC like some combo HC/OC's do with a veteran DC they already trust. Kyle wants to "raise them right" so-to-speak.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Absolutely! You don't remember Kyle working weekly with Saleh, challenging his initial game plans and then building it together? You don't remember him calling a TO in the Superbowl to correct a defensive call he wanted over Wilks?

Kyle runs this b***h. All of it.

Now, would he love a guy like Fangio where he could have peace of mind to turn the unit over too? Who wouldn't.

But until then, he's like Bellicheat and has his hands in deep with the defense. That's part of his original DNA.

Schneider was one of the more aggressive ST's coaches. Now he's ultra conservative and ranked 26th like Hightower. That's Kyle too.

Literally one of the reasons wilks is gone is because Kyle had to do way more on the defensive side than he wanted too…every HC has final say in just about everything. If he doesn't then he's not a HC.

Kyle doesn't want have to run both sides of the ball as much has he has too this yr. He didn't have faith in Wilks ability to run the scheme appropriately.

That's EXACTLY my point. The next dude he's bringing in is going to be someone he feels he can control, lay the foundation with and mesh with from a personality perspective. Once that DC has earned Kyle's stripes and he feels he can back off some, like with Saleh, after all his early learning-curve trials and tribulations, he'll do just that. But what I outlined will most likely still occur weekly because he adds value there. He's not going to just turn a whole defense over to a DC like some combo HC/OC's do with a veteran DC they already trust. Kyle wants to "raise them right" so-to-speak.

Interesting viewpoints. We shall see. I understand his intentions with Wilks but it didn't work. It's fair to say Kyle has to take some blame for that. I have no idea which way he will go.

Kyle, as an OC, can't even get 4 yards to save his life when he needed it... yet we have to trust him getting someone he can control?

I think more credit needs to go to Salah and Ryans... there is no guarantee the next DC Kyle has to find will be like them.

Most likely Kyle is gonna be forced to choose someone already on his staff. Going into his last legit season to win a Super Bowl with this stacked roster... banking on that with an in-house DC hire.

Kyle Shanahan will be both the OC and DC.

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Kyle Shanahan will be both the OC and DC.

Don't forget GM.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Kyle Shanahan will be both the OC and DC.

Don't forget GM.

And owner

Originally posted by GLT49ers:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by ComeOnDeberg:
Kyle Shanahan will be both the OC and DC.

Don't forget GM.

And owner

LOL

• Any feelers on Nick Sorenson? There's a report that Kyle is high on him.

Can we assume that if an internal promotion was the plan all along that it would have been done already?
My guess is that they feel that an solution from outside may be preferred, if it does not work out an internal promotion may be the fallback option

Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
Can we assume that if an internal promotion was the plan all along that it would have been done already?
My guess is that they feel that an solution from outside may be preferred, if it does not work out an internal promotion may be the fallback option

They might be leaning the other way. Kyle may already have a couple of guys on his staff he's considering. Hence he's not in a hurry to look outside a couple of weeks after the SB. I would think if they go outside, they would do it ASAP so the new guy get as much time as possible with the team.

Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
Can we assume that if an internal promotion was the plan all along that it would have been done already?
My guess is that they feel that an solution from outside may be preferred, if it does not work out an internal promotion may be the fallback option

I'm not sure. I think they were genuine when they said they wanted to explore all options but I'm sure they've already got a strong idea who they want, esp. in-house.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Kyle, as an OC, can't even get 4 yards to save his life when he needed it... yet we have to trust him getting someone he can control?

I think more credit needs to go to Salah and Ryans... there is no guarantee the next DC Kyle has to find will be like them.

Most likely Kyle is gonna be forced to choose someone already on his staff. Going into his last legit season to win a Super Bowl with this stacked roster... banking on that with an in-house DC hire.

He's gotten four yards when we needed it more than he hasn't gotten four yards when we needed it 🤷‍♂️.

no need for reason here though

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
Can we assume that if an internal promotion was the plan all along that it would have been done already?
My guess is that they feel that an solution from outside may be preferred, if it does not work out an internal promotion may be the fallback option

I'm not sure. I think they were genuine when they said they wanted to explore all options but I'm sure they've already got a strong idea who they want, esp. in-house.

all they had to agree on was wilks not being the solution, and I tend to think the same. Finding someone better than wilks at running a defense will be no more difficult than throwing a rock 20 yards in any direction.