Who will be the Niners new DC?-Rooney Rule Now Applicable

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
Can we assume that if an internal promotion was the plan all along that it would have been done already?
My guess is that they feel that an solution from outside may be preferred, if it does not work out an internal promotion may be the fallback option

I'm not sure. I think they were genuine when they said they wanted to explore all options but I'm sure they've already got a strong idea who they want, esp. in-house.

all they had to agree on was wilks not being the solution, and I tend to think the same. Finding someone better than wilks at running a defense will be no more difficult than throwing a rock 20 yards in any direction.

Trusting Kyle to find replacement position coaches and coordinators is one thing you can take to the bank.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Kyle, as an OC, can't even get 4 yards to save his life when he needed it... yet we have to trust him getting someone he can control?

I think more credit needs to go to Salah and Ryans... there is no guarantee the next DC Kyle has to find will be like them.

Most likely Kyle is gonna be forced to choose someone already on his staff. Going into his last legit season to win a Super Bowl with this stacked roster... banking on that with an in-house DC hire.

This might come off bad, but it's something I think matters. Salah and Ryans were both younger coordinators and minorities. I think that resonates better with the players on our defense because they are relatable. They have that young energy.

Fast forward to this past season and you inject an older coordinator who didn't even want to be down on the field. Kyle had to force it. Those players can defend Wilks all they want, but you'd have a hard time convincing me they were as into him as Salah or Demeco.

I think younger coordinators are the way to go in today's NFL. Vrabel is as old as I would go. Just my completely baseless .02

Originally posted by Silky:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Kyle, as an OC, can't even get 4 yards to save his life when he needed it... yet we have to trust him getting someone he can control?

I think more credit needs to go to Salah and Ryans... there is no guarantee the next DC Kyle has to find will be like them.

Most likely Kyle is gonna be forced to choose someone already on his staff. Going into his last legit season to win a Super Bowl with this stacked roster... banking on that with an in-house DC hire.

This might come off bad, but it's something I think matters. Salah and Ryans were both younger coordinators and minorities. I think that resonates better with the players on our defense because they are relatable. They have that young energy.

Fast forward to this past season and you inject an older coordinator who didn't even want to be down on the field. Kyle had to force it. Those players can defend Wilks all they want, but you'd have a hard time convincing me they were as into him as Salah or Demeco.

I think younger coordinators are the way to go in today's NFL. Vrabel is as old as I would go. Just my completely baseless .02

Pete Carroll may be in his 90s, but he coaches with energy like he's in his 30s. Dude can throw some bullets when he's throwing the football around. That TRT and Adderall Laced gum is Legit

Originally posted by Silky:
This might come off bad, but it's something I think matters. Salah and Ryans were both younger coordinators and minorities. I think that resonates better with the players on our defense because they are relatable. They have that young energy.

Fast forward to this past season and you inject an older coordinator who didn't even want to be down on the field. Kyle had to force it. Those players can defend Wilks all they want, but you'd have a hard time convincing me they were as into him as Salah or Demeco.

I think younger coordinators are the way to go in today's NFL. Vrabel is as old as I would go. Just my completely baseless .02

I think its attitude. The defensive players fed off the energy and enthusiasm of coaches like Saleh and Ryans while Wilks seems like a more naturally subdued and laid back kind of guy. I think there needs to be a system and personality match to get the most out of the defense.

Pete Carroll can take this defense to new heights and kyle wont have to worry about that side of the ball.

Originally posted by Team49ers:
Pete Carroll can take this defense to new heights and kyle wont have to worry about that side of the ball.

There is no way I can sit and watch him chomp that gum EVERY WEEK. 2 times a year was already too many

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 5thSFG:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49ersFan_vienna:
Can we assume that if an internal promotion was the plan all along that it would have been done already?
My guess is that they feel that an solution from outside may be preferred, if it does not work out an internal promotion may be the fallback option

I'm not sure. I think they were genuine when they said they wanted to explore all options but I'm sure they've already got a strong idea who they want, esp. in-house.

all they had to agree on was wilks not being the solution, and I tend to think the same. Finding someone better than wilks at running a defense will be no more difficult than throwing a rock 20 yards in any direction.

Trusting Kyle to find replacement position coaches and coordinators is one thing you can take to the bank.

It is wise that Kyle and John own a mistake and move on rather than ignoring it or holding on to a fault etc. (Lance, Wilks etc) but it also doesn't absolve them from the mistake made to being with lol

He has been very good at coaching hires. I think he tried outside the box with Wilks and it just didn't work. Many fans here were skeptical last year. Now is it tactical to try new things or is he just slinging s**t at the wall to see what sticks? We know that would be a 50/50 debate around here lol

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Silky:
This might come off bad, but it's something I think matters. Salah and Ryans were both younger coordinators and minorities. I think that resonates better with the players on our defense because they are relatable. They have that young energy.

Fast forward to this past season and you inject an older coordinator who didn't even want to be down on the field. Kyle had to force it. Those players can defend Wilks all they want, but you'd have a hard time convincing me they were as into him as Salah or Demeco.

I think younger coordinators are the way to go in today's NFL. Vrabel is as old as I would go. Just my completely baseless .02

I think its attitude. The defensive players fed off the energy and enthusiasm of coaches like Saleh and Ryans while Wilks seems like a more naturally subdued and laid back kind of guy. I think there needs to be a system and personality match to get the most out of the defense.

I agree and Wilks did not have that. With this roster and their journey/age I think him nailing the DC is vital. They need a rejuvenation of sorts.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Team49ers:
Pete Carroll can take this defense to new heights and kyle wont have to worry about that side of the ball.

There is no way I can sit and watch him chomp that gum EVERY WEEK. 2 times a year was already too many

i can if he produces a top 5 defense

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
It is wise that Kyle and John own a mistake and move on rather than ignoring it or holding on to a fault etc. (Lance, Wilks etc) but it also doesn't absolve them from the mistake made to being with lol

He has been very good at coaching hires. I think he tried outside the box with Wilks and it just didn't work. Many fans here were skeptical last year. Now is it tactical to try new things or is he just slinging s**t at the wall to see what sticks? We know that would be a 50/50 debate around here lol

I agree and Wilks did not have that. With this roster and their journey/age I think him nailing the DC is vital. They need a rejuvenation of sorts.

They do own it and I respect that a lot. They learned some good lessons with Wilks. You can probably expect going back to the younger, more energetic defense. I'm not sure how much the scheme and to what level of aggressiveness will come with it, from Kyle's ideal philosophy on it but they'll work together on it.

The 49ers have been really quiet about possible replacements. I assume they've contacted a few people but no interviews yet. I always hope they have a replacement in mind when they fire someone. They don't want to wait too long.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
It is wise that Kyle and John own a mistake and move on rather than ignoring it or holding on to a fault etc. (Lance, Wilks etc) but it also doesn't absolve them from the mistake made to being with lol

He has been very good at coaching hires. I think he tried outside the box with Wilks and it just didn't work. Many fans here were skeptical last year. Now is it tactical to try new things or is he just slinging s**t at the wall to see what sticks? We know that would be a 50/50 debate around here lol

I agree and Wilks did not have that. With this roster and their journey/age I think him nailing the DC is vital. They need a rejuvenation of sorts.

I think overall Vrabel presents the right kind of intensity. He's also very detail oriented and his defenses have given the Chiefs in particular a lot of trouble at times. I do appreciate his heavy emphasis on stopping the run and forcing teams into a lot of 3rd and very difficult situations.

Out of all that's out there, I think he might really be the best fit.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I think overall Vrabel presents the right kind of intensity. He's also very detail oriented and his defenses have given the Chiefs in particular a lot of trouble at times. I do appreciate his heavy emphasis on stopping the run and forcing teams into a lot of 3rd and very difficult situations.

Out of all that's out there, I think he might really be the best fit.

Here's a 90 second compilation of the Titans playing like 9 different coverages. I guarantee I missed some but the amount of variety they played all night was insane. Consistently changing their calls, KC had no rhythm on what coverage was going to be called pic.twitter.com/OYjzqdbDcd

— Nate Christensen (@natech32) November 8, 2022

Again, the Titans just aren't fooled by anything. I like the double-motion jet pass design, but with the Titans playing in quarters, they're ready to fly and rally. It helps they didn't seem to miss any tackles but it speaks to preparation and discipline pic.twitter.com/99irkDzqAa

— Nate Christensen (@natech32) November 8, 2022

Could probably compile a dozen clips but TEN has the best rush plan against Mahomes of any opponent

- One DE gets up arc to not let Mahomes scramble back of pocket
- Crush pocket on interior, not let Mahomes maneuver gaps
- Late stunt to not let him run up middle pic.twitter.com/xqlIh67n7C

— Nate Christensen (@natech32) November 8, 2022

Tennessee defensive ranks under Vrable: 8, 21, 28, 12, 23, 18

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
It is wise that Kyle and John own a mistake and move on rather than ignoring it or holding on to a fault etc. (Lance, Wilks etc) but it also doesn't absolve them from the mistake made to being with lol

He has been very good at coaching hires. I think he tried outside the box with Wilks and it just didn't work. Many fans here were skeptical last year. Now is it tactical to try new things or is he just slinging s**t at the wall to see what sticks? We know that would be a 50/50 debate around here lol

I agree and Wilks did not have that. With this roster and their journey/age I think him nailing the DC is vital. They need a rejuvenation of sorts.

I think overall Vrabel presents the right kind of intensity. He's also very detail oriented and his defenses have given the Chiefs in particular a lot of trouble at times. I do appreciate his heavy emphasis on stopping the run and forcing teams into a lot of 3rd and very difficult situations.

Out of all that's out there, I think he might really be the best fit.

Here's a 90 second compilation of the Titans playing like 9 different coverages. I guarantee I missed some but the amount of variety they played all night was insane. Consistently changing their calls, KC had no rhythm on what coverage was going to be called pic.twitter.com/OYjzqdbDcd

— Nate Christensen (@natech32) November 8, 2022

Again, the Titans just aren't fooled by anything. I like the double-motion jet pass design, but with the Titans playing in quarters, they're ready to fly and rally. It helps they didn't seem to miss any tackles but it speaks to preparation and discipline pic.twitter.com/99irkDzqAa

— Nate Christensen (@natech32) November 8, 2022

Could probably compile a dozen clips but TEN has the best rush plan against Mahomes of any opponent

- One DE gets up arc to not let Mahomes scramble back of pocket
- Crush pocket on interior, not let Mahomes maneuver gaps
- Late stunt to not let him run up middle pic.twitter.com/xqlIh67n7C

— Nate Christensen (@natech32) November 8, 2022

I am all for it, but I do wonder if the probability Vrable is a one and done coach bothers them. Perhaps someone Vrabel trusts and will leave to Kyle afterwards since he'll probably steal an offensive guy on the way out? LOL The coaching turnover while complimentary to them must be insane to deal with.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I am all for it, but I do wonder if the probability Vrable is a one and done coach bothers them. Perhaps someone Vrabel trusts and will leave to Kyle afterwards since he'll probably steal an offensive guy on the way out? LOL The coaching turnover while complimentary to them must be insane to deal with.

Any DC that has success here isn't going to be sticking around for long unless they previously bombed as HC and I don't see any retreads being more intriguing than Vrabel honestly.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by Team49ers:
Pete Carroll can take this defense to new heights and kyle wont have to worry about that side of the ball.

There is no way I can sit and watch him chomp that gum EVERY WEEK. 2 times a year was already too many

Yeah, but now he'll be chomping it FOR us! Er.... now we'll be the gum he's chomping! I mean... now it's us chewing him! Metaphor!