Originally posted by Kolohe:
What about getting away from the Wide-9?
I feel like we never had the speed rusher opposite of Bosa to make the wide 9 really work, except for like a few games when Dee Ford was healthy Bosa's rookie year
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Feb 14, 2024 at 2:09 PM
- DoseOfBosa
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I feel like we never had the speed rusher opposite of Bosa to make the wide 9 really work, except for like a few games when Dee Ford was healthy Bosa's rookie year
Feb 14, 2024 at 2:09 PM
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
What about getting away from the Wide-9?
I'm sorta in favor of that. Idk, maybe I'm just bias cause we had a struggling season upfront this year but I don't love the wide 9.
It just seems so weak vs the run.
Feb 14, 2024 at 2:11 PM
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Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Kyle said about wanting to run the same scheme that they have the players for and are familiar with, so I'm thinking Bullocks and I'm fine with that, was a fan of his as a player and I did read things about him having a bright coaching future
Interesting. I missed that part. I wonder if they take a look at Tony Oden, who is currently with Saleh in NY.
Kyle Shanahan said he will look inside the building as well as outside the organization to bring in a coordinator who has more of a background in the system the 49ers have run since 2017.
— Matt Maiocco (Threads @maiocconbcs) (@MaioccoNBCS) February 14, 2024
Why pigeon hole yourself like this?
Feb 14, 2024 at 2:11 PM
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Originally posted by Predator85:
Kyle can't hand cuff his new DC like he did Wilks. Let him bring in his staff and install his own scheme. If that's a 3-4, so be it.
You need the personnel to do that though. It's not that simple
Feb 14, 2024 at 2:12 PM
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
What about getting away from the Wide-9?
I'm sorta in favor of that. Idk, maybe I'm just bias cause we had a struggling season upfront this year but I don't love the wide 9.
It just seems so weak vs the run.
I mean it hasn't been for years though.
Feb 14, 2024 at 2:12 PM
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
What about getting away from the Wide-9?
This please.
Feb 14, 2024 at 2:15 PM
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Kyle said about wanting to run the same scheme that they have the players for and are familiar with, so I'm thinking Bullocks and I'm fine with that, was a fan of his as a player and I did read things about him having a bright coaching future
Interesting. I missed that part. I wonder if they take a look at Tony Oden, who is currently with Saleh in NY.
Kyle Shanahan said he will look inside the building as well as outside the organization to bring in a coordinator who has more of a background in the system the 49ers have run since 2017.
— Matt Maiocco (Threads @maiocconbcs) (@MaioccoNBCS) February 14, 2024
Why pigeon hole yourself like this?
It's the system he prefers. He's the coach, he prefers his system for offense and he prefers that system on D.
Feb 14, 2024 at 2:16 PM
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I hope it's not brandon staley.
Feb 14, 2024 at 2:19 PM
- tankle104
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
What about getting away from the Wide-9?
I'm sorta in favor of that. Idk, maybe I'm just bias cause we had a struggling season upfront this year but I don't love the wide 9.
It just seems so weak vs the run.
I mean it hasn't been for years though.
Is it possible to have a lot of good disguises and blitz's in the wide 9? I don't really like how simple and straight forward our system is - it's like we have to play perfect.
look at the third down call by the chiefs? Great disguise by the chiefs on a corner blitz and it worked. I never see us do stuff like that Or stunts. Idk if that's cause the wide 9 or not but I'd like to have something like what we ran under harbaugh.
Feb 14, 2024 at 2:31 PM
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
What about getting away from the Wide-9?
I'm sorta in favor of that. Idk, maybe I'm just bias cause we had a struggling season upfront this year but I don't love the wide 9.
It just seems so weak vs the run.
I mean it hasn't been for years though.
Losing DJ Jones hurt. Guys like Solomon Thomas, Charles Omenihu, and Arden Key also set the edge really well.
Feb 14, 2024 at 2:32 PM
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Originally posted by pd24:
Losing DJ Jones hurt. Guys like Solomon Thomas, Charles Omenihu, and Arden Key also set the edge really well.
Ferel did a good job as well. It would of been nice to have him in the playoffs.
He'll never live up to where he was picked, but I'd love to have him back.
Feb 14, 2024 at 2:35 PM
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Pete would be good energy
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Feb 14, 2024 at 2:38 PM
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I'm guessing someone made calls to Lynch or Shanny that they wanted to come here.
Yesterday at the press conference not even a hint of this, now suddenly Wilks in gone.
i would guess it's a big name and late last night Shanny had to come up with the plan for dismissal. If you can make the team better with a great HC you do it. That's the business of winning.
Yesterday at the press conference not even a hint of this, now suddenly Wilks in gone.
i would guess it's a big name and late last night Shanny had to come up with the plan for dismissal. If you can make the team better with a great HC you do it. That's the business of winning.
Feb 14, 2024 at 2:42 PM
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by thl408:
There is possibly a league wide shift coming with the way BAL (and now SEA) and KC are playing. Not sure if 49ers should hop on that movement or stay with a zone dominant scheme. This will be a very interesting hire and will tell us a lot about what Kyle thinks of the defensive landscape of the NFL.
More DB focused in man than DL/zone focused, yes? Seems to be the way Ravens and Chiefs countered Shanny's offense.
There's a few things going on league wide, offensively, that gets countered by the BAL/SEA/KC schemes. All the presnap motion that many offenses now use is to confuse the pattern matching coverages that has made its way across the league - Fangio split safety schemes. Playing more man counters this.
The heavily disguised blitz schemes that those defenses use put so much pressure on the OL to have their s**t together. Like you said, it will be a shift from DL/zone heavy to CBs that can man up while scheming up exotic blitz packages. Less emphasis on DLman that can win 1v1, more on the DC to understand and break pass protection schemes.
Do we have the personnel to play more man? Mooney for sure. I suppose Lenoir would be ok. But we would need another really good corner who can man up. Not sure we would be able to get that.
Feb 14, 2024 at 2:43 PM
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Originally posted by thl408:
There is possibly a league wide shift coming with the way BAL (and now SEA) and KC are playing. Not sure if 49ers should hop on that movement or stay with a zone dominant scheme. This will be a very interesting hire and will tell us a lot about what Kyle thinks of the defensive landscape of the NFL.
Is there someone from any of those staffs we can poach?