Who will be the Niners new DC?-Rooney Rule Now Applicable

Originally posted by Oscar8325:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I can see Bill B who clearly has a lot of respect for Kyle volunteering his services for a year until he gets a coaching gig that will give in to his demands.

Bill will never get a HC job again, he's old and according to some reports was unwilling to adapt to the "new" NFL. Plus he did nothing post Brady. So if he's willing to eat that humble pie to be DC that would be great.

But isn't he a headcase and arrogant? Didn't he sit the defensive player that intercepted russell, securing a superbowl win, the following year, probably costing them a superbowl?

I feel like they have to have someone in mind, no? Usually when teams fire coaches this late, especially after deep playoff runs, it's because they already know who they want.

When the Chiefs lost the 2018 AFC Championship to the Patriots in OT, they didn't wait. They fired their DC and then hired Spags.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by thl408:
There is possibly a league wide shift coming with the way BAL (and now SEA) and KC are playing. Not sure if 49ers should hop on that movement or stay with a zone dominant scheme. This will be a very interesting hire and will tell us a lot about what Kyle thinks of the defensive landscape of the NFL.

More DB focused in man than DL/zone focused, yes? Seems to be the way Ravens and Chiefs countered Shanny's offense.

There's a few things going on league wide, offensively, that gets countered by the BAL/SEA/KC schemes. All the presnap motion that many offenses now use is to confuse the pattern matching coverages that has made its way across the league - Fangio split safety schemes. Playing more man counters this.

The heavily disguised blitz schemes that those defenses use put so much pressure on the OL to have their s**t together. Like you said, it will be a shift from DL/zone heavy to CBs that can man up while scheming up exotic blitz packages. Less emphasis on DLman that can win 1v1, more on the DC to understand and break pass protection schemes.

Do we have the personnel to play more man? Mooney for sure. I suppose Lenoir would be ok. But we would need another really good corner who can man up. Not sure we would be able to get that.

The thing with a scheme that plays more man is that you are only as strong as your weakest man coverage defender. Nowadays, these man schemes are complemented with a high blitz scheme to help out the defenders in coverage.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I feel like they have to have someone in mind, no? Usually when teams fire coaches this late, especially after deep playoff runs, it's because they already know who they want.

When the Chiefs lost the 2018 AFC Championship to the Patriots in OT, they didn't wait. They fired their DC and then hired Spags.

They might but they may also need to satisfy the Rooney requirements if applicable so it might be a week or a couple of weeks before someone gets announced.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I feel like they have to have someone in mind, no? Usually when teams fire coaches this late, especially after deep playoff runs, it's because they already know who they want.

When the Chiefs lost the 2018 AFC Championship to the Patriots in OT, they didn't wait. They fired their DC and then hired Spags.

They might but they may also need to satisfy the Rooney requirements if applicable so it might be a week or a couple of weeks before someone gets announced.

There's Rooney rule for coordinators??

Rex Ryan or Pete Carrol, the likely hood that either one coming in is slim but we can hope.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
There's Rooney rule for coordinators??

In 2021, the NFL approved changes requiring every team to interview at least two external minority candidates in person for open head coach and GM positions and at least two external minority candidates — in person or virtual — for a coordinator job.

Originally posted by JimA49ers:
But isn't he a headcase and arrogant? Didn't he sit the defensive player that intercepted russell, securing a superbowl win, the following year, probably costing them a superbowl?

That is indeed the perception, and one of the reasons why I think he might accept a DC job, just to show the opposite and that he can bring his defensive philosophy to a brand new team.

I also wonder if he would do that as a way to uplift his sons to a DC position, if/when he leaves to be a HC again.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
There's Rooney rule for coordinators??

Yes. You need to interview at least two minority candidates.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Im guessing they have a clear candidate in mind but will need to do some interviews. I think Rivera is a good option but wouldn't be surprised if it was some obscure assistant from the Baltimore, KC, Cleveland or even Houston defensive staffs.

One name I'll throw out there is Brandon Lynch, the CB coach of the Browns. He's a former NFL player, has been coaching for over a decade between college and the NFL and already had a few DC interviews. He's a pretty intense dude that is more on the level of coaches like Saleh and Ryans in terms of his demeanor.

It just feels like we'll be in this position again if we hire a young up-and-comer. Not saying we shouldn't, but sure would be nice to not have to hire new coordinators every year. I'd be down for Ron Rivera, honestly. He'd probably stick around a few years and get the most out of our talent.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by 49ers808:
Kyle said about wanting to run the same scheme that they have the players for and are familiar with, so I'm thinking Bullocks and I'm fine with that, was a fan of his as a player and I did read things about him having a bright coaching future

Interesting. I missed that part. I wonder if they take a look at Tony Oden, who is currently with Saleh in NY.

Kyle Shanahan said he will look inside the building as well as outside the organization to bring in a coordinator who has more of a background in the system the 49ers have run since 2017.

— Matt Maiocco (Threads @maiocconbcs) (@MaioccoNBCS) February 14, 2024

Yeah, I could see it being Bullocks or someone on Saleh or Ryan's current staff. Vrabel sounds nice, but I don't know if he runs the same system.

I could see Bullocks, Corey Undlin, Tony Oden, and Mike Rutenberg all getting looks.

Undlin was awful in his lone season in Detroit as a coordinator. He was also operating under Matt Patricia on a talent laden team so we don't even know how much say he had in the defense. He was with Kyle and Ryans here in San Francisco as a passing game coordinator and he's now with Ryans in Houston as his passing game coordinator.

Mike Rutenberg was in San Francisco for one season then followed Saleh to the Jets. No coordinator experience other than calling plays at the senior bowl last year but I've read he's a bright guy and he understands the system Kyle is looking for.

Oden is another guy who spent one season in San Francisco then followed Saleh to the Jets. He's never been a coordinator but has been in the NFL for a long time and is another guy who understands the system Kyle wants.

Bullocks has been in the building under both Saleh and Ryans. Seems like the most natural fit inside the building.

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Im guessing they have a clear candidate in mind but will need to do some interviews. I think Rivera is a good option but wouldn't be surprised if it was some obscure assistant from the Baltimore, KC, Cleveland or even Houston defensive staffs.

One name I'll throw out there is Brandon Lynch, the CB coach of the Browns. He's a former NFL player, has been coaching for over a decade between college and the NFL and already had a few DC interviews. He's a pretty intense dude that is more on the level of coaches like Saleh and Ryans in terms of his demeanor.

It just feels like we'll be in this position again if we hire a young up-and-comer. Not saying we shouldn't, but sure would be nice to not have to hire new coordinators every year. I'd be down for Ron Rivera, honestly. He'd probably stick around a few years and get the most out of our talent.

Rivera is a guy I'd be happy with and he's also a proprietor of it all starts up front on the dline.

If we could somehow get bellicheck on board it would be unreal! He would be a great DC and an unbelievable help to Kyle in the big games. Give him massive money I don't give a f**k. Home run hire

I have a feeling it'll be internal but I'm holding out hope for BB.

The only reason I see it being internal and not someone like Ryan, BB, etc is because Kyle seems hell bent on keeping everyone on his staff and the system. So the only rational option is to hire from within. I wouldn't mind a system change though.