Who will be the Niners new DC?-Rooney Rule Now Applicable

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Gemini10:
No news today, you have to assume either something fell through with a big candidate and they're scrambling or they truly went into this without an answer, a plan of how they're going to fill this opening. Either one is a bad look.

Or they were just gonna hire internally all along. Just because you don't like that idea, doesn't mean it's the bad move.

It doesn't take two weeks to promote an internal guy. They had these guys last year, interviewed some of them last cycle before they went with Wilks. It should be a swift, quick decision if they actually had confidence in one of these guys. Instead they're dragging their feet with a hire. Only makes sense if they're waiting for a guy externally.

Originally posted by Gemini10:
It doesn't take two weeks to promote an internal guy. They had these guys last year, interviewed some of them last cycle before they went with Wilks. It should be a swift, quick decision if they actually had confidence in one of these guys. Instead they're dragging their feet with a hire. Only makes sense if they're waiting for a guy externally.

It doesn't matter what you want it to be…they could have a handshake in place with an internal coach and not making it official until everyone is done with vacations. John could "officially" say who it is on Tuesday (speaking at combine) all the same.

my god people relax….kyle has been one of the best coaches at hiring/promoting/developing in the league at the coaching position. Everyone got all upset with Wilks, like he didn't just help coach a top 5 D this yr

Originally posted by NYniner85:
IMO the way it's looking it's internal, guessing Nick Sorensen or Johnny Holland.

Holland has a lot of health issues that require constant treatment and have led to him stepping away from the team to address them in the past. I really doubt it'd be him.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
IMO the way it's looking it's internal, guessing Nick Sorensen or Johnny Holland.

Holland has a lot of health issues that require constant treatment and have led to him stepping away from the team to address them in the past. I really doubt it'd be him.

I doubt it would be Holland. Multiple Myeloma is a nasty form of cancer that typically doesn't have a good outcome. I had a boss that battled it for 10 years but it finally got hum.

I have to wonder if they have a guy in mind but just haven't been able to close the deal.

Originally posted by Gemini10:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Gemini10:
No news today, you have to assume either something fell through with a big candidate and they're scrambling or they truly went into this without an answer, a plan of how they're going to fill this opening. Either one is a bad look.

Or they were just gonna hire internally all along. Just because you don't like that idea, doesn't mean it's the bad move.

It doesn't take two weeks to promote an internal guy. They had these guys last year, interviewed some of them last cycle before they went with Wilks. It should be a swift, quick decision if they actually had confidence in one of these guys. Instead they're dragging their feet with a hire. Only makes sense if they're waiting for a guy externally.

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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Gemini10:
It doesn't take two weeks to promote an internal guy. They had these guys last year, interviewed some of them last cycle before they went with Wilks. It should be a swift, quick decision if they actually had confidence in one of these guys. Instead they're dragging their feet with a hire. Only makes sense if they're waiting for a guy externally.

It doesn't matter what you want it to be…they could have a handshake in place with an internal coach and not making it official until everyone is done with vacations. John could "officially" say who it is on Tuesday (speaking at combine) all the same.

my god people relax….kyle has been one of the best coaches at hiring/promoting/developing in the league at the coaching position. Everyone got all upset with Wilks, like he didn't just help coach a top 5 D this yr

He didn't? 8th isn't top 5

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
IMO the way it's looking it's internal, guessing Nick Sorensen or Johnny Holland.

Holland has a lot of health issues that require constant treatment and have led to him stepping away from the team to address them in the past. I really doubt it'd be him.

That's true I forgot about that

Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Gemini10:
It doesn't take two weeks to promote an internal guy. They had these guys last year, interviewed some of them last cycle before they went with Wilks. It should be a swift, quick decision if they actually had confidence in one of these guys. Instead they're dragging their feet with a hire. Only makes sense if they're waiting for a guy externally.

It doesn't matter what you want it to be…they could have a handshake in place with an internal coach and not making it official until everyone is done with vacations. John could "officially" say who it is on Tuesday (speaking at combine) all the same.

my god people relax….kyle has been one of the best coaches at hiring/promoting/developing in the league at the coaching position. Everyone got all upset with Wilks, like he didn't just help coach a top 5 D this yr

He didn't? 8th isn't top 5

4th in points allowed.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Gemini10:
It doesn't take two weeks to promote an internal guy. They had these guys last year, interviewed some of them last cycle before they went with Wilks. It should be a swift, quick decision if they actually had confidence in one of these guys. Instead they're dragging their feet with a hire. Only makes sense if they're waiting for a guy externally.

It doesn't matter what you want it to be…they could have a handshake in place with an internal coach and not making it official until everyone is done with vacations. John could "officially" say who it is on Tuesday (speaking at combine) all the same.

my god people relax….kyle has been one of the best coaches at hiring/promoting/developing in the league at the coaching position. Everyone got all upset with Wilks, like he didn't just help coach a top 5 D this yr

He didn't? 8th isn't top 5

4th in points allowed.

Yardage is a more organic predictor of wins, and therefore a better measure. 8th in yards allowed, down from 1st in 2022.

Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Gemini10:
It doesn't take two weeks to promote an internal guy. They had these guys last year, interviewed some of them last cycle before they went with Wilks. It should be a swift, quick decision if they actually had confidence in one of these guys. Instead they're dragging their feet with a hire. Only makes sense if they're waiting for a guy externally.

It doesn't matter what you want it to be…they could have a handshake in place with an internal coach and not making it official until everyone is done with vacations. John could "officially" say who it is on Tuesday (speaking at combine) all the same.

my god people relax….kyle has been one of the best coaches at hiring/promoting/developing in the league at the coaching position. Everyone got all upset with Wilks, like he didn't just help coach a top 5 D this yr

He didn't? 8th isn't top 5

4th in points allowed.

Yardage is a more organic predictor of wins, and therefore a better measure. 8th in yards allowed, down from 1st in 2022.

Even yardage allowed can be misleading. When your team is leading late in games it's common for the defense to relax a little and give up a long play or allow a long drive. Those yards can make things look worse than they actually were. That's why I don't always like using stats. You need to look at the circumstances to understand the meaning.

Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:
Yardage is a more organic predictor of wins, and therefore a better measure. 8th in yards allowed, down from 1st in 2022.

According to who lol? Last I checked allowing the 4th fewest points a game is good. Not letting teams score points > yardage

So you're also saying Kyle's offense is one of if not the best in the league consistently because of yardage?

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Gemini10:
It doesn't take two weeks to promote an internal guy. They had these guys last year, interviewed some of them last cycle before they went with Wilks. It should be a swift, quick decision if they actually had confidence in one of these guys. Instead they're dragging their feet with a hire. Only makes sense if they're waiting for a guy externally.

It doesn't matter what you want it to be…they could have a handshake in place with an internal coach and not making it official until everyone is done with vacations. John could "officially" say who it is on Tuesday (speaking at combine) all the same.

my god people relax….kyle has been one of the best coaches at hiring/promoting/developing in the league at the coaching position. Everyone got all upset with Wilks, like he didn't just help coach a top 5 D this yr

He didn't? 8th isn't top 5

4th in points allowed.

Yardage is a more organic predictor of wins, and therefore a better measure. 8th in yards allowed, down from 1st in 2022.

Even yardage allowed can be misleading. When your team is leading late in games it's common for the defense to relax a little and give up a long play or allow a long drive. Those yards can make things look worse than they actually were. That's why I don't always like using stats. You need to look at the circumstances to understand the meaning.

Well the good ole eye test and situational circumstances (in which Kyle Shanahan on more than one occasion had to burn timeouts bc he didn't agree with a play call by Wilks) would seem to even more strongly indicate Wilks was a poor fit and wrong hire by Kyle. He needs to get the next one right. He cannot again.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Gemini10:
It doesn't take two weeks to promote an internal guy. They had these guys last year, interviewed some of them last cycle before they went with Wilks. It should be a swift, quick decision if they actually had confidence in one of these guys. Instead they're dragging their feet with a hire. Only makes sense if they're waiting for a guy externally.

It doesn't matter what you want it to be…they could have a handshake in place with an internal coach and not making it official until everyone is done with vacations. John could "officially" say who it is on Tuesday (speaking at combine) all the same.

my god people relax….kyle has been one of the best coaches at hiring/promoting/developing in the league at the coaching position. Everyone got all upset with Wilks, like he didn't just help coach a top 5 D this yr

He didn't? 8th isn't top 5

4th in points allowed.

Yardage is a more organic predictor of wins, and therefore a better measure. 8th in yards allowed, down from 1st in 2022.

Even yardage allowed can be misleading. When your team is leading late in games it's common for the defense to relax a little and give up a long play or allow a long drive. Those yards can make things look worse than they actually were. That's why I don't always like using stats. You need to look at the circumstances to understand the meaning.

That is just your opinion. So its not really misleading. The NFL uses yardage to rank defense for a reason.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:
Yardage is a more organic predictor of wins, and therefore a better measure. 8th in yards allowed, down from 1st in 2022.

According to who lol? Last I checked allowing the 4th fewest points a game is good. Not letting teams score points > yardage

So you're also saying Kyle's offense is one of if not the best in the league consistently because of yardage?

For me, I like to look at points and rushing defense. The 49ers not allowing a 100 yard rusher in how many games was a stat that said a lot about the 9ers defense under Ryans, then Haasan Ridgeway went down.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Gemini10:
It doesn't take two weeks to promote an internal guy. They had these guys last year, interviewed some of them last cycle before they went with Wilks. It should be a swift, quick decision if they actually had confidence in one of these guys. Instead they're dragging their feet with a hire. Only makes sense if they're waiting for a guy externally.

It doesn't matter what you want it to be…they could have a handshake in place with an internal coach and not making it official until everyone is done with vacations. John could "officially" say who it is on Tuesday (speaking at combine) all the same.

my god people relax….kyle has been one of the best coaches at hiring/promoting/developing in the league at the coaching position. Everyone got all upset with Wilks, like he didn't just help coach a top 5 D this yr

He didn't? 8th isn't top 5

4th in points allowed.

Yardage is a more organic predictor of wins, and therefore a better measure. 8th in yards allowed, down from 1st in 2022.

Even yardage allowed can be misleading. When your team is leading late in games it's common for the defense to relax a little and give up a long play or allow a long drive. Those yards can make things look worse than they actually were. That's why I don't always like using stats. You need to look at the circumstances to understand the meaning.

That is just your opinion. So its not really misleading. The NFL uses yardage to rank defense for a reason.

The use it because it's a number that's easy to see. They don't tell you how many of the opposing yards were given up in a losing effort while trying to play catch up. We often call those yards garbage yards since they have no effect on the outcome.

The Niners run defense is a good example. For much of the year we were told that the 49ers run defense was great. It got exposed in the playoffs. One reason they weren't giving up a lot of running yards was they were often leading for much of the game. The opposing team was passing a lot to try and catch up. That's not an opinion. It was what happened. When most teams fall behind early they aren't going to try and grind it out to catch up.

Stats can be useful but you always need to look deeper. Stats alone can be misleading.