Cowboys STC Nick Sorensen Thread

Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:
Again folks, the title is totally different. He's Kyle's assistant.

Every coach on the staff is Kyle's assistant. Lynn was AHC but really he was just a glorified RB coach. He left with Bobby Turner back full time. Staley is AHC because he's previously been a HC and those are the people that usually get that title. On the overall hierarchy it still falls below both offensive and defensive coordinator usually.

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So in order to refute my logic you're using a statement that simply isn't true: not every coach on the staff is THE assistant HC. It is a different role. Now it may be specialized, as you say based on the situation, but to ASSUME that he's focused solely or primarily on defense - we don't know that.

It might just be for him to give defensive insight and Kyle throwing him a bone to rebuild his reputation and learn some offensive things from Kyle.

And I might be 7 feet tall. Why dont we wait and see what they have in mind? You folks understand that he's spent more time as a HC than as a DC don't you?

Common sense says he was brought in for his defensive perspective especially considering he was a candidate for the DC position.

I can't imagine he'd have much to offer from a Head Coaching perspective other than what not to do.

Why would anyone hire Staley for ANYTHING?. The man tore apart the Chargers???. STUPID MOVE!... Makes zero sense to me. I'm ok with Sorenson ( crossing my fingers) but STALEY ??? ...WHY LYNCH???

Originally posted by DrEll:
Can't believe they had a chance at someone who has 5 SBs and knows how to call defenses that stopped us in the SB twice AND stopped the undefeated Patriots. Kyle is such an insecure clown couldn't take the heat from that interview last week and decided to take his ball home and hire his little buddy instead.

what a joke.

How can one be certain that a career position coach who has never been a DC or play caller knows how to call a defense?

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Originally posted by BMoore56:
Love the hires. Let's goo. Rerun this shiii

Not happy with the Staley hire. Makes no sense

Originally posted by NinerJeff:
Why would anyone hire Staley for ANYTHING?. The man tore apart the Chargers???. STUPID MOVE!... Makes zero sense to me. I'm ok with Sorenson ( crossing my fingers) but STALEY ??? ...WHY LYNCH???

He was a terrible HC luckily that's not the position he was hired for here.

Originally posted by Jcool:
I like this.

I don't and so many other Niner fans. Sorenson ok but why Staley?

Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:
So in order to refute my logic you're using a statement that simply isn't true: not every coach on the staff is THE assistant HC. It is a different role. Now it may be specialized, as you say based on the situation, but to ASSUME that he's focused solely or primarily on defense - we don't know that.

Every assistant coach on staff is Kyle's assistant. There is no designated role for an Assistant Head Coach the way there is for a coordinator or OL coach or secondary coach. It's not like they're the VP of the coaching staff. It's a polite way of saying you want someone on staff but not as a HC or coordinator.

Its an honorary title for a senior member of staff that designates that theyre a big deal or that they used to be a big deal. It's a status symbol but doesn't define their role. Lynn was AHC but his main role was coaching the RBs and helping with the offensive gameplanning.

When the 49ers made Singletary AHC, it didn't change his role meaningfully, he was still
coaching the LBs as before, he just got a little more money and prestige.

My guess is that Staley will do what Sorenson was doing last season and serving as the defensive pass game coordinator while also helping out with general gameplanning.

Originally posted by Jcool:
I like this.

I don't and so many other Niner fans. Sorenson ok but why Staley?

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
17 days just to hire someone right under our noses. Jim Tomsula all over again.

Holy **** what a clown franchise. We needed that Super Bowl win badly. The Chiefs single-handedly turned us into a permanent laughing stock.

Go be a Raider fan

Why have one scapegoat when you can have TWO??!!

But seriously, it's like Kyle actually wanted to hire Staley as HC (they have similar narcissistic personalities, imo)... but he knew it wouldn't fly for the players or the fans. Local Media would just slobber what ever decsion Kyle makes anyway, like some here..so that wasn't a worry.. but again players and fans matter.

So he couldn't hire Staley outright... so he hires a Coach the players already know and trust. But if that Coach struggles this upcoming season, Kyle will have his opening to have Staley take over. We've seen it on other teams (hell the Eagles last year).... and if fake ass person Brandon Staley doesn't work out, well you know the routine.

Seriously why would Staley accept some assistant role, after being a HC? Because he's been reassured the job is his to rescue, if there are troubles for the Super Bowl favorite team. A rescue that might actually help him get rid of the stench, that was his Charger HC run..

Originally posted by NinerJeff:
I don't and so many other Niner fans. Sorenson ok but why Staley?

Because he's a respected assistant coach? Him being a terrible HC doesn't reflect on that. HC requires an entirely different skill set that some do not possess.

Jim Tomsula was a lousy HC, I'd take him as a DL coach, no problem. Spagnuolo was a terrible HC but people would have been thrilled if the 49ers hired him as DC.

Staley won't be setting the agenda or calling plays, just pitching in and in that role he has a lot to offer.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Seriously why would Staley accept some assistant role, after being a HC?

Because it's what failed HCs do? Spagnuolo went from SB winning coordinator to HC to "senior defensive assistant" in Baltimore.

If you bomb as a HC, you take whatever role gets you back into the action. If the 49ers defense does well this season, better than last, some team in the NFL will hire Staley as a defensive coordinator.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Why have one scapegoat when you can have TWO??!!

But seriously, it's like Kyle actually wanted to hire Staley as HC (they have similar narcissistic personalities, imo)... but he knew it wouldn't fly for the players or the fans. Local Media would just slobber what ever decsion Kyle makes anyway, like some here..so that wasn't a worry.. but again players and fans matter.

So he couldn't hire Staley outright... so he hires a Coach the players already know and trust. But if that Coach struggles this upcoming season, Kyle will have his opening to have Staley take over. We've seen it on other teams (hell the Eagles last year).... and if fake ass person Brandon Staley doesn't work out, well you know the routine.

Seriously why would Staley accept some assistant role, after being a HC? Because he's been reassured the job is his to rescue, if there are troubles for the Super Bowl favorite team. A rescue that might actually help him get rid of the stench, that was his Charger HC run..

This post tells me tinfoil is on sale somewhere so please share where you got yours because I too wish to make a tinfoil hat.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Why have one scapegoat when you can have TWO??!!

But seriously, it's like Kyle actually wanted to hire Staley as HC (they have similar narcissistic personalities, imo)... but he knew it wouldn't fly for the players or the fans. Local Media would just slobber what ever decsion Kyle makes anyway, like some here..so that wasn't a worry.. but again players and fans matter.

So he couldn't hire Staley outright... so he hires a Coach the players already know and trust. But if that Coach struggles this upcoming season, Kyle will have his opening to have Staley take over. We've seen it on other teams (hell the Eagles last year).... and if fake ass person Brandon Staley doesn't work out, well you know the routine.

Seriously why would Staley accept some assistant role, after being a HC? Because he's been reassured the job is his to rescue, if there are troubles for the Super Bowl favorite team. A rescue that might actually help him get rid of the stench, that was his Charger HC run..

This post tells me tinfoil is on sale somewhere so please share where you got yours because I too wish to make a tinfoil hat.

If we struggle on defense this year, do you see Staley taking over the play calling... or the DC position, if Sorenson gets fired?

I mean do you think Sorensen is actually happy Staley got hired? That he has to look over his shoulder and try to coach mistake free?... compared to going into his first opportunity as a DC, being free and creative.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Why have one scapegoat when you can have TWO??!!

But seriously, it's like Kyle actually wanted to hire Staley as HC (they have similar narcissistic personalities, imo)... but he knew it wouldn't fly for the players or the fans. Local Media would just slobber what ever decsion Kyle makes anyway, like some here..so that wasn't a worry.. but again players and fans matter.

So he couldn't hire Staley outright... so he hires a Coach the players already know and trust. But if that Coach struggles this upcoming season, Kyle will have his opening to have Staley take over. We've seen it on other teams (hell the Eagles last year).... and if fake ass person Brandon Staley doesn't work out, well you know the routine.

Seriously why would Staley accept some assistant role, after being a HC? Because he's been reassured the job is his to rescue, if there are troubles for the Super Bowl favorite team. A rescue that might actually help him get rid of the stench, that was his Charger HC run..

See Zimmer, spags, Schwartz, Kingsbury, Vance Joseph and a long list in the history of the NFL of HCs that failed and went back to being coordinators

Originally posted by Afrikan:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Why have one scapegoat when you can have TWO??!!

But seriously, it's like Kyle actually wanted to hire Staley as HC (they have similar narcissistic personalities, imo)... but he knew it wouldn't fly for the players or the fans. Local Media would just slobber what ever decsion Kyle makes anyway, like some here..so that wasn't a worry.. but again players and fans matter.

So he couldn't hire Staley outright... so he hires a Coach the players already know and trust. But if that Coach struggles this upcoming season, Kyle will have his opening to have Staley take over. We've seen it on other teams (hell the Eagles last year).... and if fake ass person Brandon Staley doesn't work out, well you know the routine.

Seriously why would Staley accept some assistant role, after being a HC? Because he's been reassured the job is his to rescue, if there are troubles for the Super Bowl favorite team. A rescue that might actually help him get rid of the stench, that was his Charger HC run..

This post tells me tinfoil is on sale somewhere so please share where you got yours because I too wish to make a tinfoil hat.

If we struggle on defense this year, do you see Staley taking over the play calling... or the DC position, if Sorenson gets fired?

Why is it bad to have an experienced defensive play caller on the staff for the very scenario you spelled out? Last season, in season they didn't have someone to turn to so they stuck with Wilks. Now they are planning for everything and learned from their mistakes. Wilks probably would have been gone at the bye if they had someone that had experience on the staff.