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  • DrEll
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Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by DrEll:
So what ? Why does it always have to be absolutes to all you Shanafans ? Don't fire Kyle. Why ? Because there is NO ONE that can replace him. Don't hire Merrit ? Why not ? Because he NEVER got hired before. Jesus, I get the love fest but get a grip. Sorensen never got hired as a DC either. So maybe he's not a good replacement for DC. But wait….let me answer for you. Sorensen has only been a position coach for 7 years while Merritt has been doing it for much longer. Since Merritt never got a promotion to DC, he absolutely must not be a good candidate for DC.

lol, the Shanafan mentality is awesome…

all you do is talk about fans but never make a case for the coach.

the team is 2-0 on internal DC hires. 0-1 on outside hires.

fans have nothing to so with the equation. you ONLY like Merritt because he criticized Kyle. that's moronic.

2-0 on internal hires ? Based on what ? I thought this was about winning Superbowls, not about how many of our guys get head coaching positions. For what it's worth, the 0-1 outsider got us closer to winning one…
Originally posted by DrEll:
Kyle is his own worst enemy. He needs to be surrounded by yes men, and guys in the media that will support his style and compliment him. It's one of the gripes that fans have with all our best writers. Outside of Cohn, no one challenges Kyle when he stands at the podium.

So now you're in a position where you lost 2 SBs to the same team, and instead of learning from your mistakes and poaching one of their coaches, or bringing another guy from outside that offers a different flavor when facing that same team, you decide to promote a guy that was with you the FIRST time you lost to that team in the SB.

What exactly does Sorensen bring to the table that is different from 2019 ? And now 2023 ? It's obvious why Kyle promoted him. He wants a yes man that will call the game Kyle's way.

How could Sorensen have been with the 49ers in 2019 when he was the DB coach in Seattle at the time?
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Internal promotion has worked before. I think he will do well in our system. Time will tell. Staley though should coach flag football. He is not what we need in the building. We need more experienced folks surrounding our dips**t hc.

That would have been Merritt but as we all know Kyle is his own worst enemy and his Ego will not let him learn. Causes great ignorance to not learn from his own mistakes or insanity by doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Merritt? Based on what? Just because they beat us? Lol

His interview and yes because he won and we have a participation trophy. I know some folks like the fact we are number 2 but we used to be number 1 and anything less was not acceptable. Kyle will probably never win it all wth the niners. Hope I'm wrong but just don't see it.

You sat in on his interview? Look at you. Should have pounded the table for him

What a joke lol...Did you really think I was referring to his job interview 😳. His interview with the media about Kyle and his in ability to call plays in the superbowl.

What does that have to do with him being the best candidate? Absolutely nothing

Ahh yeah it does he shut the niners passing down with coaching his all pro Backfield. He knew the weakness and called it out on the air. I love you Shanganfans, you have denial that's ridiculous.
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Internal promotion has worked before. I think he will do well in our system. Time will tell. Staley though should coach flag football. He is not what we need in the building. We need more experienced folks surrounding our dips**t hc.

That would have been Merritt but as we all know Kyle is his own worst enemy and his Ego will not let him learn. Causes great ignorance to not learn from his own mistakes or insanity by doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Merritt? Based on what? Just because they beat us? Lol

His interview and yes because he won and we have a participation trophy. I know some folks like the fact we are number 2 but we used to be number 1 and anything less was not acceptable. Kyle will probably never win it all wth the niners. Hope I'm wrong but just don't see it.

Kyle is his own worst enemy. He needs to be surrounded by yes men, and guys in the media that will support his style and compliment him. It's one of the gripes that fans have with all our best writers. Outside of Cohn, no one challenges Kyle when he stands at the podium.

So now you're in a position where you lost 2 SBs to the same team, and instead of learning from your mistakes and poaching one of their coaches, or bringing another guy from outside that offers a different flavor when facing that same team, you decide to promote a guy that was with you the FIRST time you lost to that team in the SB.

What exactly does Sorensen bring to the table that is different from 2019 ? And now 2023 ? It's obvious why Kyle promoted him. He wants a yes man that will call the game Kyle's way.

your logic is not well thought out and really dumb. Demeco was promoted after a SB loss. Sorenson wasnt on the team until 2022.

and poaching a coach from the team you lost to does not increase the chances of you beating that team or winning a SB.

try again.
  • pd24
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Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Internal promotion has worked before. I think he will do well in our system. Time will tell. Staley though should coach flag football. He is not what we need in the building. We need more experienced folks surrounding our dips**t hc.

That would have been Merritt but as we all know Kyle is his own worst enemy and his Ego will not let him learn. Causes great ignorance to not learn from his own mistakes or insanity by doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Merritt? Based on what? Just because they beat us? Lol

His interview and yes because he won and we have a participation trophy. I know some folks like the fact we are number 2 but we used to be number 1 and anything less was not acceptable. Kyle will probably never win it all wth the niners. Hope I'm wrong but just don't see it.

You sat in on his interview? Look at you. Should have pounded the table for him

What a joke lol...Did you really think I was referring to his job interview 😳. His interview with the media about Kyle and his in ability to call plays in the superbowl.

What does that have to do with him being the best candidate? Absolutely nothing

Ahh yeah it does he shut the niners passing down with coaching his all pro Backfield. He knew the weakness and called it out on the air. I love you Shanganfans, you have denial that's ridiculous.

He did or spags did? The all pros help also. Lol. You don't know how much input he had in the defense. Just making stuff up to prove a point. Lol
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Ahh yeah it does he shut the niners passing down with coaching his all pro Backfield. He knew the weakness and called it out on the air. I love you Shanganfans, you have denial that's ridiculous.

20 years as an assistant. Despite all the annual hirings and firings, not a single team has thought that he's cut out to be a coordinator. Even after being a part of multiple SB winning staffs. Go ahead and check out the track record of guys that were assistants for 15+ years before becoming coordinators, it's not a pretty one. The NFL hasn't overlooked him, its just that the league has determined that he's not cut out for the job.

And I don't care how good of a DBs coach he is because that wouldn't have been his role with the 49ers. Playcalling requires an entirely different set of skills.
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Internal promotion has worked before. I think he will do well in our system. Time will tell. Staley though should coach flag football. He is not what we need in the building. We need more experienced folks surrounding our dips**t hc.

That would have been Merritt but as we all know Kyle is his own worst enemy and his Ego will not let him learn. Causes great ignorance to not learn from his own mistakes or insanity by doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Merritt? Based on what? Just because they beat us? Lol

His interview and yes because he won and we have a participation trophy. I know some folks like the fact we are number 2 but we used to be number 1 and anything less was not acceptable. Kyle will probably never win it all wth the niners. Hope I'm wrong but just don't see it.

You sat in on his interview? Look at you. Should have pounded the table for him

What a joke lol...Did you really think I was referring to his job interview 😳. His interview with the media about Kyle and his in ability to call plays in the superbowl.

What does that have to do with him being the best candidate? Absolutely nothing

Ahh yeah it does he shut the niners passing down with coaching his all pro Backfield. He knew the weakness and called it out on the air. I love you Shanganfans, you have denial that's ridiculous.

He did or spags did? The all pros help also. Lol. You don't know how much input he had in the defense. Just making stuff up to prove a point. Lol

You don't think he did when Spags was looking to adjust his defense. Also I'm not saying Sorenson is a bad hire just don't know yet. The topic was about Kyle needing a yes man to satisfy his Ego. Don't twist your Shanganfan logic. Enjoy your 2nd place trophies there kinda small.
  • pd24
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Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Internal promotion has worked before. I think he will do well in our system. Time will tell. Staley though should coach flag football. He is not what we need in the building. We need more experienced folks surrounding our dips**t hc.

That would have been Merritt but as we all know Kyle is his own worst enemy and his Ego will not let him learn. Causes great ignorance to not learn from his own mistakes or insanity by doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Merritt? Based on what? Just because they beat us? Lol

His interview and yes because he won and we have a participation trophy. I know some folks like the fact we are number 2 but we used to be number 1 and anything less was not acceptable. Kyle will probably never win it all wth the niners. Hope I'm wrong but just don't see it.

You sat in on his interview? Look at you. Should have pounded the table for him

What a joke lol...Did you really think I was referring to his job interview 😳. His interview with the media about Kyle and his in ability to call plays in the superbowl.

What does that have to do with him being the best candidate? Absolutely nothing

Ahh yeah it does he shut the niners passing down with coaching his all pro Backfield. He knew the weakness and called it out on the air. I love you Shanganfans, you have denial that's ridiculous.

He did or spags did? The all pros help also. Lol. You don't know how much input he had in the defense. Just making stuff up to prove a point. Lol

You don't think he did when Spags was looking to adjust his defense. Also I'm not saying Sorenson is a bad hire just don't know yet. The topic was about Kyle needing a yes man to satisfy his Ego. Don't twist your Shanganfan logic. Enjoy your 2nd place trophies there kinda small.

So you basically have no insight into your claims. Lol
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Can't believe they had a chance at someone who has 5 SBs and knows how to call defenses that stopped us in the SB twice AND stopped the undefeated Patriots. Kyle is such an insecure clown couldn't take the heat from that interview last week and decided to take his ball home and hire his little buddy instead.

what a joke.

How can one be certain that a career position coach who has never been a DC or play caller knows how to call a defense?

🤡

Has more SBs han Kyle. Nuff said

You didn't answer the question because we both know you can't.

Merrit has never called a defense so the reality is you don't know if he knows how to call a defense or if he would be successful as a play caller.

🤡

So what ? Why does it always have to be absolutes to all you Shanafans ? Don't fire Kyle. Why ? Because there is NO ONE that can replace him. Don't hire Merrit ? Why not ? Because he NEVER got hired before. Jesus, I get the love fest but get a grip. Sorensen never got hired as a DC either. So maybe he's not a good replacement for DC. But wait….let me answer for you. Sorensen has only been a position coach for 7 years while Merritt has been doing it for much longer. Since Merritt never got a promotion to DC, he absolutely must not be a good candidate for DC.

lol, the Shanafan mentality is awesome…

You are big mad at Kyle for not hiring the guy you liked better based off of what Wikipedia told you and what you heard in one interview.

The difference between your desires to hire Merritt versus Kyle's decision to hire Sorensen and Staley starts with the fact that he was in the interview room and you were not. That means Kyle had a f**k ton more insight into these candidates then you did. And let's not forget Kyle has forgotten more about the game than any fan on here will ever know.

I trust Kyle far more with hiring coaches than I do some rando online. While just like any other HC he hasn't been perfect, his track record with hiring good coaches pretty much speaks for itself.
[ Edited by evil on Mar 2, 2024 at 11:30 AM ]
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Internal promotion has worked before. I think he will do well in our system. Time will tell. Staley though should coach flag football. He is not what we need in the building. We need more experienced folks surrounding our dips**t hc.

That would have been Merritt but as we all know Kyle is his own worst enemy and his Ego will not let him learn. Causes great ignorance to not learn from his own mistakes or insanity by doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Merritt? Based on what? Just because they beat us? Lol

His interview and yes because he won and we have a participation trophy. I know some folks like the fact we are number 2 but we used to be number 1 and anything less was not acceptable. Kyle will probably never win it all wth the niners. Hope I'm wrong but just don't see it.

You sat in on his interview? Look at you. Should have pounded the table for him

What a joke lol...Did you really think I was referring to his job interview 😳. His interview with the media about Kyle and his in ability to call plays in the superbowl.

What does that have to do with him being the best candidate? Absolutely nothing

Ahh yeah it does he shut the niners passing down with coaching his all pro Backfield. He knew the weakness and called it out on the air. I love you Shanganfans, you have denial that's ridiculous.

He did or spags did? The all pros help also. Lol. You don't know how much input he had in the defense. Just making stuff up to prove a point. Lol

You don't think he did when Spags was looking to adjust his defense. Also I'm not saying Sorenson is a bad hire just don't know yet. The topic was about Kyle needing a yes man to satisfy his Ego. Don't twist your Shanganfan logic. Enjoy your 2nd place trophies there kinda small.

So you basically have no insight into your claims. Lol

What insight are you looking at... Do you not think Spags did not go to his coaching staff to make adjustments. That's more of a Kyle thing.
Originally posted by DrEll:
Kyle is his own worst enemy. He needs to be surrounded by yes men, and guys in the media that will support his style and compliment him. It's one of the gripes that fans have with all our best writers. Outside of Cohn, no one challenges Kyle when he stands at the podium.

So now you're in a position where you lost 2 SBs to the same team, and instead of learning from your mistakes and poaching one of their coaches, or bringing another guy from outside that offers a different flavor when facing that same team, you decide to promote a guy that was with you the FIRST time you lost to that team in the SB.

What exactly does Sorensen bring to the table that is different from 2019 ? And now 2023 ? It's obvious why Kyle promoted him. He wants a yes man that will call the game Kyle's way.

Maybe you just need to accept that your view of things isn't shared by the organization. Seen enough of your posts to understand that you wanted a hire almost strictly to challenge KS and possibly replace him as well. That's why you're hard up for Merritt even though you never mentioned his name and probably never heard of him before he was interviewed and had his critical comments. We're not hiring someone to challenge Kyle. We're hiring someone to run a defense in conjunction with the HC/FO's vision. All assistant coaches are 'yes men' in the sense that they are executing their job under someone else's direction or management. When that goes sideways, those assistants tend to get fired or leave.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Ahh yeah it does he shut the niners passing down with coaching his all pro Backfield. He knew the weakness and called it out on the air. I love you Shanganfans, you have denial that's ridiculous.

20 years as an assistant. Despite all the annual hirings and firings, not a single team has thought that he's cut out to be a coordinator. Even after being a part of multiple SB winning staffs. Go ahead and check out the track record of guys that were assistants for 15+ years before becoming coordinators, it's not a pretty one. The NFL hasn't overlooked him, its just that the league has determined that he's not cut out for the job.

And I don't care how good of a DBs coach he is because that wouldn't have been his role with the 49ers. Playcalling requires an entirely different set of skills.

This is a good point and don't disagree however the point of discussion was he hired a yes man. Merritt or someone outside may have given better insight into his KS10 issues be brought from Atlanta.
  • pd24
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Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Internal promotion has worked before. I think he will do well in our system. Time will tell. Staley though should coach flag football. He is not what we need in the building. We need more experienced folks surrounding our dips**t hc.

That would have been Merritt but as we all know Kyle is his own worst enemy and his Ego will not let him learn. Causes great ignorance to not learn from his own mistakes or insanity by doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Merritt? Based on what? Just because they beat us? Lol

His interview and yes because he won and we have a participation trophy. I know some folks like the fact we are number 2 but we used to be number 1 and anything less was not acceptable. Kyle will probably never win it all wth the niners. Hope I'm wrong but just don't see it.

You sat in on his interview? Look at you. Should have pounded the table for him

What a joke lol...Did you really think I was referring to his job interview 😳. His interview with the media about Kyle and his in ability to call plays in the superbowl.

What does that have to do with him being the best candidate? Absolutely nothing

Ahh yeah it does he shut the niners passing down with coaching his all pro Backfield. He knew the weakness and called it out on the air. I love you Shanganfans, you have denial that's ridiculous.

He did or spags did? The all pros help also. Lol. You don't know how much input he had in the defense. Just making stuff up to prove a point. Lol

You don't think he did when Spags was looking to adjust his defense. Also I'm not saying Sorenson is a bad hire just don't know yet. The topic was about Kyle needing a yes man to satisfy his Ego. Don't twist your Shanganfan logic. Enjoy your 2nd place trophies there kinda small.

So you basically have no insight into your claims. Lol

What insight are you looking at... Do you not think Spags did not go to his coaching staff to make adjustments. That's more of a Kyle thing.

I don't know. I wasn't there, and Spags hasn't said anything to support what you are saying
Originally posted by bassmanr:
This is a good point and don't disagree however the point of discussion was he hired a yes man. Merritt or someone outside may have given better insight into his KS10 issues be brought from Atlanta.

Sorensen was a player in the NFL for a decade and a coach in the NFL for nearly a decade before he joined the 49ers. He's got a good deal of experience outside of the 49ers building and has only been with the team for two years. Long enough to learn the system and the personnel but also a guy you'd expect to have a lot of his own views and ideas.
Sorensen has a great roster on D to work with already. Get rid of ambry thomas and we have a great secondary, bring in a run stuffer. This defense is still a super bowl caliber defense.
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