Cowboys STC Nick Sorensen Thread

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Agreed. Bosa has underperformed.

Bosa is just magnified because he's the only guy on the Dline that can get pressure. He's also forced to play over 90% of the snaps because they have nobody else to sub in for him. So when the 4th quarter comes around he has nothing left. Bosa could have 8 pressures and 2 sacks and it would look like he had a bad game because the other 50 snaps or so there is no pressure from the Dline. So people will look at Bosa on those reps and say he is underperforming. He can't do it all by himself. Coaches around the league look at our Dline and say ok they have Nick Bosa and nobody else, Let's just key in on him. Were not going to let him beat us. Bosa is going to be fine. I am worried about everybody else on that Dline because even if Bosa dominates it's not going to matter if nobody else can get pressure.

If we don't fix things fast, Sorensen has to have playcalling stripped from him.

Check out our current rankings:

Total Defense: 16th
Passing YPA: 30th
Sacks: T-14th
Passer Rating Allowed: 25th
Third down conversion rate: 30th (A WHOPPING 53%)
Penalties: T-13th

This is inexcusable for having an all pro edge and linebacker, and pro bowl corner with another good corner and DE rushing on the other side.

I know Hufanga just came back, but that's another former all pro back there. Absolutely ridiculous to be ranked near LAST in passing YPA and third down defense.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
If we don't fix things fast, Sorensen has to have playcalling stripped from him.

Check out our current rankings:

Total Defense: 16th
Passing YPA: 30th
Sacks: T-14th
Passer Rating Allowed: 25th
Third down conversion rate: 30th (A WHOPPING 53%)
Penalties: T-13th

This is inexcusable for having an all pro edge and linebacker, and pro bowl corner with another good corner and DE rushing on the other side.

I know Hufanga just came back, but that's another former all pro back there. Absolutely ridiculous to be ranked near LAST in passing YPA and third down defense.

That is frickin horrible!!! Thank Odom, Campbell, Brown, Yiadom and Sorensen for this mess. Offenses don't give this defense any respect no more, see Sam Darnold and his 99 yard touchdown pass. Sorensen outta be ashamed of himself, Lynch too for neglecting the Safety position.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Bosa is just magnified because he's the only guy on the Dline that can get pressure. He's also forced to play over 90% of the snaps because they have nobody else to sub in for him. So when the 4th quarter comes around he has nothing left. Bosa could have 8 pressures and 2 sacks and it would look like he had a bad game because the other 50 snaps or so there is no pressure from the Dline. So people will look at Bosa on those reps and say he is underperforming. He can't do it all by himself. Coaches around the league look at our Dline and say ok they have Nick Bosa and nobody else, Let's just key in on him. We're not going to let him beat us. Bosa is going to be fine. I am worried about everybody else on that Dline because even if Bosa dominates it's not going to matter if nobody else can get pressure.

In my opinion we need to start blitzing more frequently. I'm appalled by this 4 man rush nonsense. No wonder why Bosa is a non factor. Just double/chip him. It's that easy. Nobody else can get home. If we would actually disguise some different blitzs/back outs it would keep teams more honest. I honestly can't remember the last slot/safety blitz for a sack that I have seen. We used to run that slot corner blitz with K-wan Williams and safety blitz Huff his rookie year.

And let's start playing 5 down lineman on base down calls. I'm so freakin sick of this trash wide nine base look where teams are ripping off 5-6 yard runs up the middle. What the hell is wrong with Kyle? Teams have been doing this s**t against us this year and all of last year. Where is the adjustment to 5 lineman instead of 4. They are eating our f**king lunch on inside runs. The Gaps are wider than my mom's vagina.

f**k this defensive scheme. It is garbage

the line is pretty thin going foward..... Steve Wilks laughing it up right now I just know it...

What's Greg Manusky doing nowadays?

Originally posted by SisterFister:
In my opinion we need to start blitzing more frequently. I'm appalled by this 4 man rush nonsense. No wonder why Bosa is a non factor. Just double/chip him. It's that easy. Nobody else can get home. If we would actually disguise some different blitzs/back outs it would keep teams more honest. I honestly can't remember the last slot/safety blitz for a sack that I have seen. We used to run that slot corner blitz with K-wan Williams and safety blitz Huff his rookie year.

And let's start playing 5 down lineman on base down calls. I'm so freakin sick of this trash wide nine base look where teams are ripping off 5-6 yard runs up the middle. What the hell is wrong with Kyle? Teams have been doing this s**t against us this year and all of last year. Where is the adjustment to 5 lineman instead of 4. They are eating our f**king lunch on inside runs. The Gaps are wider than my mom's vagina.

f**k this defensive scheme. It is garbage

Blitzing by itself is useless. Even when they blitz the blitz never gets home and we just get burned in coverage.

The defense has to be more unpredictable. Rotating coverages and executing simulated pressures and more people on the LoS could be a big shot in the arm of this corpse of a defense.

When there is lack of a talent the scheme has to pick up the slack. This scheme is Fangio level passive and is extremely predictable post-snap.

Dropping Bosa and Floyd in coverage have been the most unexpected things all season from the defense.... and none of those plays managed to do what they were designed to do AFAIK.

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Agreed. Bosa has underperformed.

Bosa is just magnified because he's the only guy on the Dline that can get pressure. He's also forced to play over 90% of the snaps because they have nobody else to sub in for him. So when the 4th quarter comes around he has nothing left. Bosa could have 8 pressures and 2 sacks and it would look like he had a bad game because the other 50 snaps or so there is no pressure from the Dline. So people will look at Bosa on those reps and say he is underperforming. He can't do it all by himself. Coaches around the league look at our Dline and say ok they have Nick Bosa and nobody else, Let's just key in on him. Were not going to let him beat us. Bosa is going to be fine. I am worried about everybody else on that Dline because even if Bosa dominates it's not going to matter if nobody else can get pressure.

Bosa's performances have always been magnified though, since he first arrived. Bosa is the most watched defensive player on a down to down bases. IMO he just hasn't been as good since his defensive MVP and prior seasons. Last season teams chipped the hell out of him and he seemed to struggle against it. This year I haven't really seen much of that and he has yet to be dominate. You could be right about him being tired because we don't have the same level to sub him and that is hurting him late in games. But regardless he just simply hasn't gotten the same level of consistent pressure as he did in his earlier seasons. Don't get me wrong he is still a very good player and been by far our best pass rusher but IMO just hasn't been the same game wrecker he used to be.

What a mess. Injuries, free agent departures, questionable scheme, inexperienced defensive coordinator. Other than that we are fine.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
the line is pretty thin going foward..... Steve Wilks laughing it up right now I just know it...

With his track record he has no room to laugh at anyone.

What needs to happen Is Green to take over for Isaac, Put green in the slot and demo on the outside, Then Keep Campbell in On rundowns, but replace him with a three safety lineup where huf Or Mustafa come down In the box to cover tight ends or running backs on passing downs

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Agreed. Bosa has underperformed.

Bosa is just magnified because he's the only guy on the Dline that can get pressure. He's also forced to play over 90% of the snaps because they have nobody else to sub in for him. So when the 4th quarter comes around he has nothing left. Bosa could have 8 pressures and 2 sacks and it would look like he had a bad game because the other 50 snaps or so there is no pressure from the Dline. So people will look at Bosa on those reps and say he is underperforming. He can't do it all by himself. Coaches around the league look at our Dline and say ok they have Nick Bosa and nobody else, Let's just key in on him. Were not going to let him beat us. Bosa is going to be fine. I am worried about everybody else on that Dline because even if Bosa dominates it's not going to matter if nobody else can get pressure.

Bosa's performances have always been magnified though, since he first arrived. Bosa is the most watched defensive player on a down to down bases. IMO he just hasn't been as good since his defensive MVP and prior seasons. Last season teams chipped the hell out of him and he seemed to struggle against it. This year I haven't really seen much of that and he has yet to be dominate. You could be right about him being tired because we don't have the same level to sub him and that is hurting him late in games. But regardless he just simply hasn't gotten the same level of consistent pressure as he did in his earlier seasons. Don't get me wrong he is still a very good player and been by far our best pass rusher but IMO just hasn't been the same game wrecker he used to be.

Wasn't he near the top of the league in pressures last year?

Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Blitzing by itself is useless. Even when they blitz the blitz never gets home and we just get burned in coverage.

The defense has to be more unpredictable. Rotating coverages and executing simulated pressures and more people on the LoS could be a big shot in the arm of this corpse of a defense.

When there is lack of a talent the scheme has to pick up the slack. This scheme is Fangio level passive and is extremely predictable post-snap.

Dropping Bosa and Floyd in coverage have been the most unexpected things all season from the defense.... and none of those plays managed to do what they were designed to do AFAIK.

Exactly what I was about to type up. I don't check the all-22, but the defense looks so vanilla based on the broadcast angle. They seem to just line up and play on most of their snaps. Sorensen is making it easy for opposing QBs.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by JTB1974:

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Agreed. Bosa has underperformed.

Bosa is just magnified because he's the only guy on the Dline that can get pressure. He's also forced to play over 90% of the snaps because they have nobody else to sub in for him. So when the 4th quarter comes around he has nothing left. Bosa could have 8 pressures and 2 sacks and it would look like he had a bad game because the other 50 snaps or so there is no pressure from the Dline. So people will look at Bosa on those reps and say he is underperforming. He can't do it all by himself. Coaches around the league look at our Dline and say ok they have Nick Bosa and nobody else, Let's just key in on him. Were not going to let him beat us. Bosa is going to be fine. I am worried about everybody else on that Dline because even if Bosa dominates it's not going to matter if nobody else can get pressure.

Bosa's performances have always been magnified though, since he first arrived. Bosa is the most watched defensive player on a down to down bases. IMO he just hasn't been as good since his defensive MVP and prior seasons. Last season teams chipped the hell out of him and he seemed to struggle against it. This year I haven't really seen much of that and he has yet to be dominate. You could be right about him being tired because we don't have the same level to sub him and that is hurting him late in games. But regardless he just simply hasn't gotten the same level of consistent pressure as he did in his earlier seasons. Don't get me wrong he is still a very good player and been by far our best pass rusher but IMO just hasn't been the same game wrecker he used to be.

Wasn't he near the top of the league in pressures last year?

Tried looking it up. I did find one twitter post from some random guy who had him at #3 in pressures last season. So maybe. ESPN analytics ranked him #19 in DE pass rush win rate. And fox sports didn't have him in the top 25 in QB hurries. All I could really find. Maybe I am remembering it wrong but to me it just felt like he wasn't as dominate as the previous seasons. Even Bosa himself talked about missing camp last season and how he thought it affected him. So I am not sure even he thought last season was his best. 10.5 sacks ( in his defense he did get held a lot.) Again, I am not saying he didn't have a very good season last year. Just not the same level as previous ones. I don't regret paying him and he is still one of my favorite players but with that contract he needs to be better then he has so far this season.

No need to make excuses for bosa. Absolutely has under performed given his contract. He's still a good player but there is no way any unbiased fan watches and says wow bosa was dominant. I can't remember the last time he had an elite level game. His dpoy probably.

But as many have said, the defensive play calling has been moronic. Zero blitzes and 3rd and long, putting LBs who can't cover in coverage, having no adjustments.

They need to fix it fast, I'm assuming Shanahan sees what everyone else does. It's HIS responsibility to fix this. He's the hc, he hired Sorensen.