49ers DC Nick Sorensen

Saw his interview, dude just looks like he making excuses, sad to hear, " well it's Mahomes going Mahomes things " no friggin fire, like stop him!? Dude is just saying they great and nothing he could do, get me a dc with a backbone

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Productivity check so far:

Total defense - #14
Rush yards per play - #10
Rush TD allowed - #30
Passing yards per play - #14
Passer rating allowed - #4
PPG - #14
Third down defense - #27
Fourth down defense - #16
Takeaways - tied #4
Sacks - tied #14
Penalties - tied #5
Red zone defense - #22

These stats seem very accurate for what I've seen. We do pretty well in a lot of areas, but we struggle mightily in pressure spots when we need a stop. Third and fourth down and red zone issues are the most glaring, where we're bottom half to bottom third of the league.

It could be that that's where Sorensen's inexperience + having lots of injuries and several rookies play, along with a couple inferior players out there with Brown & Campbell, is causing us from being as good as we could be. Those two guys are getting exposed a lot in key situations.

I don't think Nick is a bad DC at this point. He's doing pretty well considering what he's been given to work with, and I have to be fair in understanding that he's learning too, like Ryans had to.

Those 3rd/4th down plays every team is looking for Campbell or Yiadom.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Productivity check so far:

Total defense - #14
Rush yards per play - #10
Rush TD allowed - #30
Passing yards per play - #14
Passer rating allowed - #4
PPG - #14
Third down defense - #27
Fourth down defense - #16
Takeaways - tied #4
Sacks - tied #14
Penalties - tied #5
Red zone defense - #22

These stats seem very accurate for what I've seen. We do pretty well in a lot of areas, but we struggle mightily in pressure spots when we need a stop. Third and fourth down and red zone issues are the most glaring, where we're bottom half to bottom third of the league.

It could be that that's where Sorensen's inexperience + having lots of injuries and several rookies play, along with a couple inferior players out there with Brown & Campbell, is causing us from being as good as we could be. Those two guys are getting exposed a lot in key situations.

I don't think Nick is a bad DC at this point. He's doing pretty well considering what he's been given to work with, and I have to be fair in understanding that he's learning too, like Ryans had to.

We are weak up the middle and would be a disaster if not for Warner making up for the weakness' in front of him and behind him tbh. They need way better play at DT and a real FS.

I think a healthy Greenlaw would be a huge boost, but then I ask can Sorensen scheme that and get the most out of it? I think maybe with experience, but you can only scheme so much because if they can't dominate the trenches we will always be suspect.

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
Saw his interview, dude just looks like he making excuses, sad to hear, " well it's Mahomes going Mahomes things " no friggin fire, like stop him!? Dude is just saying they great and nothing he could do, get me a dc with a backbone

Yeah that's p***y s**t. When Mahomes scrambles like that…f**king hit him!

letting him tip toe down the sidelines like that is b******t…if he's not giving himself up, you rock him so hard he s**ts himself. Mahomes runs around like he's a RB you can't touch. IMO if he does something like that early in the game, you let him know if he's gonna do that and not declare himself down/out, nail him. I don't care about the 15 yard penalty, set the MFing tone. We need Dre back. We need our tone setter back.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Productivity check so far:

Total defense - #14
Rush yards per play - #10
Rush TD allowed - #30
Passing yards per play - #14
Passer rating allowed - #4
PPG - #14
Third down defense - #27
Fourth down defense - #16
Takeaways - tied #4
Sacks - tied #14
Penalties - tied #5
Red zone defense - #22

These stats seem very accurate for what I've seen. We do pretty well in a lot of areas, but we struggle mightily in pressure spots when we need a stop. Third and fourth down and red zone issues are the most glaring, where we're bottom half to bottom third of the league.

It could be that that's where Sorensen's inexperience + having lots of injuries and several rookies play, along with a couple inferior players out there with Brown & Campbell, is causing us from being as good as we could be. Those two guys are getting exposed a lot in key situations.

I don't think Nick is a bad DC at this point. He's doing pretty well considering what he's been given to work with, and I have to be fair in understanding that he's learning too, like Ryans had to.

We are weak up the middle and would be a disaster if not for Warner making up for the weakness' in front of him and behind him tbh. They need way better play at DT and a real FS.

I think a healthy Greenlaw would be a huge boost, but then I ask can Sorensen scheme that and get the most out of it? I think maybe with experience, but you can only scheme so much because if they can't dominate the trenches we will always be suspect.

I think Collins has been good but isn't always very disciplined in his pass rush lanes. Elliott shows good hustle, and Kalia is a good penetrator and seems to play smart. I don't know how Davis does against the doubles, I would need to see tape, but I know Givens gets owned bad on duo blocks.

I definitely want to see what Anderson does with more snaps. Guy just looks like he gets it. He gets his hands up to knock down passes, he eats space and holds against double teams. He is learning to use his hands well. In college he showed he needed to work on consistency with pad level, so that's something to watch.

I actually think the DTs aren't doing as bad as some think. They're not great but the LBs keep missing tackles on plays that should be stopped for loss or short gains.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Productivity check so far:

Total defense - #14
Rush yards per play - #10
Rush TD allowed - #30
Passing yards per play - #14
Passer rating allowed - #4
PPG - #14
Third down defense - #27
Fourth down defense - #16
Takeaways - tied #4
Sacks - tied #14
Penalties - tied #5
Red zone defense - #22

These stats seem very accurate for what I've seen. We do pretty well in a lot of areas, but we struggle mightily in pressure spots when we need a stop. Third and fourth down and red zone issues are the most glaring, where we're bottom half to bottom third of the league.

It could be that that's where Sorensen's inexperience + having lots of injuries and several rookies play, along with a couple inferior players out there with Brown & Campbell, is causing us from being as good as we could be. Those two guys are getting exposed a lot in key situations.

I don't think Nick is a bad DC at this point. He's doing pretty well considering what he's been given to work with, and I have to be fair in understanding that he's learning too, like Ryans had to.

We are weak up the middle and would be a disaster if not for Warner making up for the weakness' in front of him and behind him tbh. They need way better play at DT and a real FS.

I think a healthy Greenlaw would be a huge boost, but then I ask can Sorensen scheme that and get the most out of it? I think maybe with experience, but you can only scheme so much because if they can't dominate the trenches we will always be suspect.

I think Collins has been good but isn't always very disciplined in his pass rush lanes. Elliott shows good hustle, and Kalia is a good penetrator and seems to play smart. I don't know how Davis does against the doubles, I would need to see tape, but I know Givens gets owned bad on duo blocks.

I definitely want to see what Anderson does with more snaps. Guy just looks like he gets it. He gets his hands up to knock down passes, he eats space and holds against double teams. He is learning to use his hands well. In college he showed he needed to work on consistency with pad level, so that's something to watch.

I actually think the DTs aren't doing as bad as some think. They're not great but the LBs keep missing tackles on plays that should be stopped for loss or short gains.

The entire teams effort minus a few players has not been the same tbh. If someone can eat up those double teams to free the LB's etc (We 100% need Greenlaw back to sure up the tackling) then we are only weak at safety.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Productivity check so far:

Total defense - #14
Rush yards per play - #10
Rush TD allowed - #30
Passing yards per play - #14
Passer rating allowed - #4
PPG - #14
Third down defense - #27
Fourth down defense - #16
Takeaways - tied #4
Sacks - tied #14
Penalties - tied #5
Red zone defense - #22

These stats seem very accurate for what I've seen. We do pretty well in a lot of areas, but we struggle mightily in pressure spots when we need a stop. Third and fourth down and red zone issues are the most glaring, where we're bottom half to bottom third of the league.

It could be that that's where Sorensen's inexperience + having lots of injuries and several rookies play, along with a couple inferior players out there with Brown & Campbell, is causing us from being as good as we could be. Those two guys are getting exposed a lot in key situations.

I don't think Nick is a bad DC at this point. He's doing pretty well considering what he's been given to work with, and I have to be fair in understanding that he's learning too, like Ryans had to.

We are weak up the middle and would be a disaster if not for Warner making up for the weakness' in front of him and behind him tbh. They need way better play at DT and a real FS.

I think a healthy Greenlaw would be a huge boost, but then I ask can Sorensen scheme that and get the most out of it? I think maybe with experience, but you can only scheme so much because if they can't dominate the trenches we will always be suspect.

I think Collins has been good but isn't always very disciplined in his pass rush lanes. Elliott shows good hustle, and Kalia is a good penetrator and seems to play smart. I don't know how Davis does against the doubles, I would need to see tape, but I know Givens gets owned bad on duo blocks.

I definitely want to see what Anderson does with more snaps. Guy just looks like he gets it. He gets his hands up to knock down passes, he eats space and holds against double teams. He is learning to use his hands well. In college he showed he needed to work on consistency with pad level, so that's something to watch.

I actually think the DTs aren't doing as bad as some think. They're not great but the LBs keep missing tackles on plays that should be stopped for loss or short gains.

The entire teams effort minus a few players has not been the same tbh. If someone can eat up those double teams to free the LB's etc (We 100% need Greenlaw back to sure up the tackling) then we are only weak at safety.

Getting Anderson on the 53 will help with taking up some beef up front

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Productivity check so far:

Total defense - #14
Rush yards per play - #10
Rush TD allowed - #30
Passing yards per play - #14
Passer rating allowed - #4
PPG - #14
Third down defense - #27
Fourth down defense - #16
Takeaways - tied #4
Sacks - tied #14
Penalties - tied #5
Red zone defense - #22

These stats seem very accurate for what I've seen. We do pretty well in a lot of areas, but we struggle mightily in pressure spots when we need a stop. Third and fourth down and red zone issues are the most glaring, where we're bottom half to bottom third of the league.

It could be that that's where Sorensen's inexperience + having lots of injuries and several rookies play, along with a couple inferior players out there with Brown & Campbell, is causing us from being as good as we could be. Those two guys are getting exposed a lot in key situations.

I don't think Nick is a bad DC at this point. He's doing pretty well considering what he's been given to work with, and I have to be fair in understanding that he's learning too, like Ryans had to.

We are weak up the middle and would be a disaster if not for Warner making up for the weakness' in front of him and behind him tbh. They need way better play at DT and a real FS.

I think a healthy Greenlaw would be a huge boost, but then I ask can Sorensen scheme that and get the most out of it? I think maybe with experience, but you can only scheme so much because if they can't dominate the trenches we will always be suspect.

I think Collins has been good but isn't always very disciplined in his pass rush lanes. Elliott shows good hustle, and Kalia is a good penetrator and seems to play smart. I don't know how Davis does against the doubles, I would need to see tape, but I know Givens gets owned bad on duo blocks.

I definitely want to see what Anderson does with more snaps. Guy just looks like he gets it. He gets his hands up to knock down passes, he eats space and holds against double teams. He is learning to use his hands well. In college he showed he needed to work on consistency with pad level, so that's something to watch.

I actually think the DTs aren't doing as bad as some think. They're not great but the LBs keep missing tackles on plays that should be stopped for loss or short gains.

The entire teams effort minus a few players has not been the same tbh. If someone can eat up those double teams to free the LB's etc (We 100% need Greenlaw back to sure up the tackling) then we are only weak at safety.

Getting Anderson on the 53 will help with taking up some beef up front

That would be a dream if he ended up that good. fingers crossed

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Productivity check so far:

Total defense - #14
Rush yards per play - #10
Rush TD allowed - #30
Passing yards per play - #14
Passer rating allowed - #4
PPG - #14
Third down defense - #27
Fourth down defense - #16
Takeaways - tied #4
Sacks - tied #14
Penalties - tied #5
Red zone defense - #22

These stats seem very accurate for what I've seen. We do pretty well in a lot of areas, but we struggle mightily in pressure spots when we need a stop. Third and fourth down and red zone issues are the most glaring, where we're bottom half to bottom third of the league.

It could be that that's where Sorensen's inexperience + having lots of injuries and several rookies play, along with a couple inferior players out there with Brown & Campbell, is causing us from being as good as we could be. Those two guys are getting exposed a lot in key situations.

I don't think Nick is a bad DC at this point. He's doing pretty well considering what he's been given to work with, and I have to be fair in understanding that he's learning too, like Ryans had to.

Great post BTW. Drove a nice, informative and insightful discussion. Appreciate it OnTheClock.

Hey umm… wanna call a full four quarters of defense pls?

"Prevent" this guy from coming back next season

Fire this f**king clown tonight

Double post

was going to compliment him bc i thought for much of the game we played ok vs the chiefs before falling apart and i thought we looked better for much of the game then just pure ass late

this guy sucks

Players gonna have to step up big time to make our defense look good.

Can't wait to get Saleh back next season