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Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
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Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Why are folks crying and b**ching about Staley as is he's the HC? He's just a guy that brings new ideas and a different perspective on d to work with a rookie DC for f**ks sake relax people

Crying is all some posters know how to do.

Seriously. Just wait when the draft comes and all the crying comes because people aren't satisfied with pick 31, not a pick in the top 5 but pick 31

Haha they were crying about our high 4th round-valued kicker to no end.

30 years without a trophy despite 8 golden opportunities, to the point of being a joke around the rest of the NFL. I say most fans have the right to complain. Especially the ones who've never seen the Niners win any of their titles

Ya we are definitely the joke of the NFL. So f**king stupid lmao

Yeah pretty much. York 49ers are in the same category as the 70s Vikings,80s Bengals, early 90s Bills, & 2000s Eagles nobody cares about the teams that finish in second, unless it's to joke about them


Our coaches get poached every year just for s**ts and giggles I guess.

For someone who made fake countdowns for the previous QB, you sure love to stick your chest out for that silver medal

We should go resign him. We would be better off losing more games apparently.

Lol funny you didn't think that when we were winning and you waking up every single morning at 3 am hypocritically complaining/whining about winning because the lack of air yards and nothing else... Winning didn't matter then, did it 3 am? When you woke up and whined about winning.

We was winning. I was furious. much better off losing apparently
I know you were. But now winning is good for you. Getting to the SB mean something now. Before you were furious. Flat out hypocrisy and double standards from you. I've been calling you out in being bitter after wins since I started here and noticed how "furious" you always were. Suddenly winning matters though now that it's suits your flat out hypocritical double standards.

You didn't give a s* about winning or getting to the SB with different personnel. Now you're in you're high horse.

I suggest you take it easy.
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
And people still make fun of the Bills for going 0-4 in the Super Bowl over 30 years ago.

This statement must be a joke. Can't be anything else. Been a diehard Niners and NFL fan since I can remember being very young in the mid-70s…not once have a heard a fellow NFL fan that actually watched those Bills teams play, actually watched each of those Bills' Super Bowls "make fun of" the Bills for going 0-4 in those SBs. If anything, what's remembered, what's thought of, is the incredible accomplishment to get to four SBs in a row. Can you imagine that happening in current times (salary cap makes it almost impossible). Sucks for their franchise they couldn't get it done one of those games but those Bills team were close and had some incredible talent.

For the record, have seen and vividly remember each of the five Niners' SB wins…but I'm in NO WAY complacent with them just making three since and losing each. I'm pissed, especially this last one where they had the game right there for the taking.

Will look forward to seeing hopefully this team again next year being formidable with its franchise QB in place, overall talent, coaching, and front office support - hopefully this team will get over the hump.

With all the tough playoff losses this franchise has had over the years, it's still one SB win away from tying for the most and they now have the most playoff wins in the SB era.

Would I prefer a winning franchise that up to this day under Lynch & Shanahan continue to field a top team that has as good a chance as any team to win a SB each year? Yes, yes I would - all day, every day, and twice on Sundays.
Amazing thread title change
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Chargers' Brandon Staley is polarizing, but his defensive game planning is elite

https://theathletic.com/4069648/2023/01/10/brandon-staley-chargers-defense/?source=user_shared_articleChargers%E2%80%99BrandonStaleyispolarizing,buthisdefensivegameplanningiselite

Just seeing who the author is tells me this will be a good read. Ted Nguyen is literally the only member of the local media who truly knows ball.


In Week 2, when the Chargers' defense was healthy, they held the Chiefs to only 20 points, their third-lowest points per drive average of the season (1.82) and Patrick Mahomes' second-lowest yards per attempt average of the season (6.71). The Chargers played man coverage at the second-highest rate (46.3 percent) of any Chiefs opponent this season, according to TruMedia, and Staley mixed up his coverages effectively to keep Mahomes out of rhythm. The Chargers also confused Kansas City's offensive line in key moments, resulting in quick pressures.


Finally. This is helpful. Becoming the Bills of the 90's is not.
Those Bills teams are actually more famous and memorable because they lost four straight. If they even won even one of those they would rarely be discussed.
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
And people still make fun of the Bills for going 0-4 in the Super Bowl over 30 years ago.

This statement must be a joke. Can't be anything else. Been a diehard Niners and NFL fan since I can remember being very young in the mid-70s…not once have a heard a fellow NFL fan that actually watched those Bills teams play, actually watched each of those Bills' Super Bowls "make fun of" the Bills for going 0-4 in those SBs. If anything, what's remembered, what's thought of, is the incredible accomplishment to get to four SBs in a row. Can you imagine that happening in current times (salary cap makes it almost impossible). Sucks for their franchise they couldn't get it done one of those games but those Bills team were close and had some incredible talent.

For the record, have seen and vividly remember each of the five Niners' SB wins…but I'm in NO WAY complacent with them just making three since and losing each. I'm pissed, especially this last one where they had the game right there for the taking.

Will look forward to seeing hopefully this team again next year being formidable with its franchise QB in place, overall talent, coaching, and front office support - hopefully this team will get over the hump.

With all the tough playoff losses this franchise has had over the years, it's still one SB win away from tying for the most and they now have the most playoff wins in the SB era.

Would I prefer a winning franchise that up to this day under Lynch & Shanahan continue to field a top team that has as good a chance as any team to win a SB each year? Yes, yes I would - all day, every day, and twice on Sundays.



Anyone that would rather see us be bad than be a contender is no real fan.
Yall must live around some really nice ppl. Here in DC the Billis are constantly clowned as losers
Staley hire reminds me of the Chris Foerster hire a few years back.

People tend to forget Foerster was first brought on in that vague game-planning assistant role before positions open and he became the offensive line/run game coordinator over time.

So my read in all of this is Shanahan thought highly enough of Staley to want him as part of the brain trust but wasn't quite comfortable handing the job to another outsider and wanted to go with a known quantity like Sorensen that he thought highly of as well.

Staley's on staff which gives him time to learn the players and adjust to what Kyle wants on defense and the outsider becomes an insider. So if Sorensen is the next superstar DC and becomes an HC in a couple of years or if he's a flop you then have Staley groomed and ready to step in. Or Staley gets a job elsewhere but even then you still don't lose anything.
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Those Bills teams are actually more famous and memorable because they lost four straight. If they even won even one of those they would rarely be discussed.

Those Bills teams were really good. I think they could win a SB today. They had one of the best QBs of his era (Jim Kelly), a great RB (Thurman Thomas), one of the greatest edge rushers of all time (Bruce Smith) and a solid team from top to bottom. It was their misfortune to be great during the era when the NFC had super teams like the Niners, Giants and Cowboys.

One of the best games i ever attended was the 1992 game between the Bills and 49ers. It was a total shootout between Kelly and Young with the Bills winning 34-31. I think there was only one punt and that happened late in the game. Something like 1000 yards between the 2 teams. That was far more rare than it is in today's offense/pass happy era.
[ Edited by CatchMaster80 on Mar 4, 2024 at 8:38 AM ]
I totally missed the hirings this weekend lol

I said Staley would be a good edition, and I kind of like it better that he's not our DC yet.

Let him learn our culture and then Kyle can pick his brain.

If he's actually good, he will stay... if not, he's gone. Win-win.
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
And people still make fun of the Bills for going 0-4 in the Super Bowl over 30 years ago.

This statement must be a joke. Can't be anything else. Been a diehard Niners and NFL fan since I can remember being very young in the mid-70s…not once have a heard a fellow NFL fan that actually watched those Bills teams play, actually watched each of those Bills' Super Bowls "make fun of" the Bills for going 0-4 in those SBs. If anything, what's remembered, what's thought of, is the incredible accomplishment to get to four SBs in a row. Can you imagine that happening in current times (salary cap makes it almost impossible). Sucks for their franchise they couldn't get it done one of those games but those Bills team were close and had some incredible talent.

For the record, have seen and vividly remember each of the five Niners' SB wins…but I'm in NO WAY complacent with them just making three since and losing each. I'm pissed, especially this last one where they had the game right there for the taking.

Will look forward to seeing hopefully this team again next year being formidable with its franchise QB in place, overall talent, coaching, and front office support - hopefully this team will get over the hump.

With all the tough playoff losses this franchise has had over the years, it's still one SB win away from tying for the most and they now have the most playoff wins in the SB era.

Would I prefer a winning franchise that up to this day under Lynch & Shanahan continue to field a top team that has as good a chance as any team to win a SB each year? Yes, yes I would - all day, every day, and twice on Sundays.



Anyone that would rather see us be bad than be a contender is no real fan.

I absolutely agree with you and Lott about rather seeing us be a contender than a bad team, in spite of the heartbreak. 100% agreed. However, I dont agree with Lott saying that the Bills are not made fun of for 0-4. They absolutely are. To this day.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I absolutely agree with you and Lott about rather seeing us be a contender than a bad team, in spite of the heartbreak. 100% agreed. However, I dont agree with Lott saying that the Bills are not made fun of for 0-4. They absolutely are. To this day.

You and I must be hanging around a different type of football fan all these years. Did you ever see those Bills teams play during those seasons and in those four SBs? If so, you then remember the talent they put on the field on both sides of the ball. Not something you'd make fun of just because they didn't get over the hump. I just feel bad for their fans that had to go through the four straight years of being so close.

Maybe it's just a generational thing in "making fun" of a franchise that did something pretty remarkable in making four SBs in a row. Making fun of a franchise that put together top talent that made them very tough to beat for many years in a row beyond four. I'm not at all a Bills fan, but I have nothing but respect for those Bills teams and for their franchise in continuing to put a very good team on the field during these current years w/ QB Allen.
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
And people still make fun of the Bills for going 0-4 in the Super Bowl over 30 years ago.

This statement must be a joke. Can't be anything else. Been a diehard Niners and NFL fan since I can remember being very young in the mid-70s…not once have a heard a fellow NFL fan that actually watched those Bills teams play, actually watched each of those Bills' Super Bowls "make fun of" the Bills for going 0-4 in those SBs. If anything, what's remembered, what's thought of, is the incredible accomplishment to get to four SBs in a row. Can you imagine that happening in current times (salary cap makes it almost impossible). Sucks for their franchise they couldn't get it done one of those games but those Bills team were close and had some incredible talent.

For the record, have seen and vividly remember each of the five Niners' SB wins…but I'm in NO WAY complacent with them just making three since and losing each. I'm pissed, especially this last one where they had the game right there for the taking.

Will look forward to seeing hopefully this team again next year being formidable with its franchise QB in place, overall talent, coaching, and front office support - hopefully this team will get over the hump.

With all the tough playoff losses this franchise has had over the years, it's still one SB win away from tying for the most and they now have the most playoff wins in the SB era.

Would I prefer a winning franchise that up to this day under Lynch & Shanahan continue to field a top team that has as good a chance as any team to win a SB each year? Yes, yes I would - all day, every day, and twice on Sundays.



Anyone that would rather see us be bad than be a contender is no real fan.

Pathetic to rather lose!
I did say I wouldn't mind Staley as an assistant to be groomed and eventually take the DC position, so I cant be mad. That being said I wanted a bigger name to take the DC role so the inexperience of Sorensen has me a little worried but Demeco and Saleh had inexperience so I hope it works out. Regards to giving up 63 to the Raiders I was just concerned the defense gave up all 63 points which wasnt the case. The back up QB played trash so it makes the pill easier to swallow.

I heard somewhere that Sorensen and Kyle came up with the defensive gameplan in the superbowl, if so I can see why Sorensen was the hire bc the gameplan was legit until Wilks changed everything to man and no pressure blitzes in crunchtime. It seemed like once Mahommes saw man coverage he had his mind made up to scramble.

All in all the Staley hire I feel good about bc I envision him affecting both sides of the ball in a good way. Like if he was assisting in the superbowl, he would have brought light to the chiefs adjusting to playing more man during the 3, 3 and outs and Kyle could have adjusted quicker bc he was more effective in the 4th quarter. I hope Staley is able to sprinkle in the Fangio defensive scheme which will take time for the team to get used to, so the title of assistant head coach excites me. IMO we need more assistants hires bc our team gets poached every year and ruins the continuity.
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[ Edited by WestCoastForever on Mar 4, 2024 at 10:36 AM ]
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