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Knee injuries in preseason are never a good sign for a player's availability and durability long term.
  • okdkid
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Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Knee injuries in preseason are never a good sign for a player's availability and durability long term.

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Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Niners99:
I remember back in the day when like maybe 2-3 guys per year would suffer season ending injuries, but otherwise everyone toughed it out. Now everyone gets hurt constantly and has to sit out 3 weeks for a hangnail.

Hearing older players like Aaron Rodgers talk about how hard the training camps used to be, and how comfortable they are now gives me little hope for the future of the game. The game is soft now. All these NFLPA regulations that require no contact and extra time off. Sports in general has babied athletes, fretting over how much money they have invested in them and player safety PR, yet they're getting hurt more than ever before.

Those guardian helmets actually being used in games now is insane.

Health and fitness training has changed the game as much as anything. Fifty years ago, kids would have to go down to the local gym and lift weights by themselves, then grab a burger on the way home. Now, even high schools have weight rooms that the pros of the 70's would envy. The size and fitness of guys now had made for much more violent collisions and injury potential. If today's players practiced as much with pads as they did even in the 90s, roster size would have to be increased to 60+ to have enough players to last the season.

That still doesn't account for all the non-contact stuff. The modern NFL player would file a lawsuit against the league if they had to do two-a-days in camp. Football used to be like military boot camp. They built up a callous. Players now don't spend enough time conditioning their muscles for contact because everyone is afraid of sustaining injuries outside the actual games that matter.

The league is definitely faster and benefits from modern training and nutrition, but they have also changed the rules dramatically so you are barely allowed to hit anymore. How is it that in a league where they have made almost every way to make contact illegal, that players get hurt the most often? Guys used to be encouraged to end opposing players' seasons, because that was the mindset, yet they got injured less.

A year ago or so, I read a doctor talking about how players were developing muscles that were stronger than their ligaments could handle.
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Knee injuries in preseason are never a good sign for a player's availability and durability long term.

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Originally posted by Viperboy:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Knee injuries in preseason are never a good sign for a player's availability and durability long term.

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RonnieBott
Originally posted by Bloodless:
Originally posted by zeppfan1:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Well that is some good news.

Lol, Kyle got you guys fooled like a guy giving away free candy in a Wal Mart parking lot….

Have you not already learned not to believe a single thing he says when it comes to injured players?

My guess is Floyd is out vs the Jets. Kyle will ride the good news bandwagon while Floyd doesn't practice, then right at the end Floyd will sit out with an unrelated issue.

Happens every time.
Originally posted by Patton:
Lol, Kyle got you guys fooled like a guy giving away free candy in a Wal Mart parking lot….

Have you not already learned not to believe a single thing he says when it comes to injured players?

My guess is Floyd is out vs the Jets. Kyle will ride the good news bandwagon while Floyd doesn't practice, then right at the end Floyd will sit out with an unrelated issue.

Happens every time.

lol so why didn't he say YGM was day-to-day as well?

Man you love making s**t up
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Patton:
Lol, Kyle got you guys fooled like a guy giving away free candy in a Wal Mart parking lot….

Have you not already learned not to believe a single thing he says when it comes to injured players?

My guess is Floyd is out vs the Jets. Kyle will ride the good news bandwagon while Floyd doesn't practice, then right at the end Floyd will sit out with an unrelated issue.

Happens every time.

lol so why didn't he say YGM was day-to-day as well?

Man you love making s**t up

We shall see👍
  • Giedi
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Originally posted by Niners99:
That still doesn't account for all the non-contact stuff. The modern NFL player would file a lawsuit against the league if they had to do two-a-days in camp. Football used to be like military boot camp. They built up a callous. Players now don't spend enough time conditioning their muscles for contact because everyone is afraid of sustaining injuries outside the actual games that matter.

The league is definitely faster and benefits from modern training and nutrition, but they have also changed the rules dramatically so you are barely allowed to hit anymore. How is it that in a league where they have made almost every way to make contact illegal, that players get hurt the most often? Guys used to be encouraged to end opposing players' seasons, because that was the mindset, yet they got injured less.

The biggest factor in these training camp and rules changes, i think is the CTE issue. Until science and technology finds a fix for permanent brain concussion injury - its a legitimate health issue for all NFL players. There have been many *deaths* and violent acts associated with CTE so its not a non-issue.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Niners99:
That still doesn't account for all the non-contact stuff. The modern NFL player would file a lawsuit against the league if they had to do two-a-days in camp. Football used to be like military boot camp. They built up a callous. Players now don't spend enough time conditioning their muscles for contact because everyone is afraid of sustaining injuries outside the actual games that matter.

The league is definitely faster and benefits from modern training and nutrition, but they have also changed the rules dramatically so you are barely allowed to hit anymore. How is it that in a league where they have made almost every way to make contact illegal, that players get hurt the most often? Guys used to be encouraged to end opposing players' seasons, because that was the mindset, yet they got injured less.

The biggest factor in these training camp and rules changes, i think is the CTE issue. Until science and technology finds a fix for permanent brain concussion injury - its a legitimate health issue for all NFL players. There have been many *deaths* and violent acts associated with CTE so its not a non-issue.

It's a pretty tricky tech fix too - we want to continuously strike a container holding fragile and complex material using the full body weight and momentum of the strongest people on Earth, but without causing lasting damage to said contents - Go!
Originally posted by Patton:
Lol, Kyle got you guys fooled like a guy giving away free candy in a Wal Mart parking lot….

Have you not already learned not to believe a single thing he says when it comes to injured players?

My guess is Floyd is out vs the Jets. Kyle will ride the good news bandwagon while Floyd doesn't practice, then right at the end Floyd will sit out with an unrelated issue.

Happens every time.

Yeah okay

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Patton:
Lol, Kyle got you guys fooled like a guy giving away free candy in a Wal Mart parking lot….

Have you not already learned not to believe a single thing he says when it comes to injured players?

My guess is Floyd is out vs the Jets. Kyle will ride the good news bandwagon while Floyd doesn't practice, then right at the end Floyd will sit out with an unrelated issue.

Happens every time.

Yeah okay

  • da209
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Patton:
Lol, Kyle got you guys fooled like a guy giving away free candy in a Wal Mart parking lot….

Have you not already learned not to believe a single thing he says when it comes to injured players?

My guess is Floyd is out vs the Jets. Kyle will ride the good news bandwagon while Floyd doesn't practice, then right at the end Floyd will sit out with an unrelated issue.

Happens every time.

Yeah okay


Great news. hopefully he didn't rush back
Some good news. Great
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