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Originally posted by bmvanthiel:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Dude that's not how it works lol. Again look at the GTD $$ NOT the make believe cap space fluff.
you'd think people would get it after we go over it every single free agency
You'd have a better point if we weren't comparing 2 year deals. These are all 2 year deals where the structure isn't going to vary all that much.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by pd24:
Hunter and get some fat guys with the minimum and another big DE for the 4.5 million
Hunter for $48 of his $51M GTD. Show me how much GTD cash all those guys got combined. That's what matters….stop looking at what if numbers and dividing them by the years. That's not how it works
Originally posted by bmvanthiel:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by pd24:
Hunter and get some fat guys with the minimum and another big DE for the 4.5 million
Hunter for $48 of his $51M GTD. Show me how much GTD cash all those guys got combined. That's what matters….stop looking at what if numbers and dividing them by the years. That's not how it works
Why is guareenteed money so huge on a 2 yr deal? You're not stuck with it long term. 2 years is an awesome contract to do with guarantees.
"Floyd, 31, joins the 49ers on a two-year, $20 million deal that can be worth up to $24 million with $12 million in guaranteed money over the first year of the contract."
So Floyd does reasonably well and we keep him for 2 years and pay him 24 mil. The gap with hunter is not that huge now. Elliot, Odum, and Gross-Matos are still going to make decent money given their amount, even if it's backloaded. And if we cut these guys after 1 year, there will be some amount of dead cap.
Originally posted by bmvanthiel:
Why is guareenteed money so huge on a 2 yr deal? You're not stuck with it long term. 2 years is an awesome contract to do with guarantees.
"Floyd, 31, joins the 49ers on a two-year, $20 million deal that can be worth up to $24 million with $12 million in guaranteed money over the first year of the contract."
So Floyd does reasonably well and we keep him for 2 years and pay him 24 mil. The gap with hunter is not that huge now. Elliot, Odum, and Gross-Matos are still going to make decent money given their amount, even if it's backloaded. And if we cut these guys after 1 year, there will be some amount of dead cap.
Originally posted by bud49:
All this is based on Kris Kocurek working his magic on these type of DL.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by bmvanthiel:
Why is guareenteed money so huge on a 2 yr deal? You're not stuck with it long term. 2 years is an awesome contract to do with guarantees.
"Floyd, 31, joins the 49ers on a two-year, $20 million deal that can be worth up to $24 million with $12 million in guaranteed money over the first year of the contract."
So Floyd does reasonably well and we keep him for 2 years and pay him 24 mil. The gap with hunter is not that huge now. Elliot, Odum, and Gross-Matos are still going to make decent money given their amount, even if it's backloaded. And if we cut these guys after 1 year, there will be some amount of dead cap.
Well we're likely planning on dishing out a premier WR/QB contract within that two year window for one.
a 20+ million dollar gap in guaranteed money is pretty substantial.
Originally posted by bmvanthiel:
I don't understand these low tier players that get a good chunk of cash.
Example: Elliot 5mil/yr, Odom 5 mil, Gross-Matos 9 mil.
19 mil there where you could actually get a stud
Originally posted by joeknows:
Originally posted by bmvanthiel:
I don't understand these low tier players that get a good chunk of cash.
Example: Elliot 5mil/yr, Odom 5 mil, Gross-Matos 9 mil.
19 mil there where you could actually get a stud
That would be a hell of a stud, that can play DT, Safety, and Edge!
Originally posted by bmvanthiel:
Originally posted by joeknows:
Originally posted by bmvanthiel:
I don't understand these low tier players that get a good chunk of cash.
Example: Elliot 5mil/yr, Odom 5 mil, Gross-Matos 9 mil.
19 mil there where you could actually get a stud
That would be a hell of a stud, that can play DT, Safety, and Edge!
Wouldnt have to. You fill in those backup and rotational roles with draft picks who make 1 mil a year
Originally posted by bmvanthiel:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by pd24:
Hunter and get some fat guys with the minimum and another big DE for the 4.5 million
Hunter for $48 of his $51M GTD. Show me how much GTD cash all those guys got combined. That's what matters….stop looking at what if numbers and dividing them by the years. That's not how it works
Why is guareenteed money so huge on a 2 yr deal? You're not stuck with it long term. 2 years is an awesome contract to do with guarantees.
"Floyd, 31, joins the 49ers on a two-year, $20 million deal that can be worth up to $24 million with $12 million in guaranteed money over the first year of the contract."
So Floyd does reasonably well and we keep him for 2 years and pay him 24 mil. The gap with hunter is not that huge now. Elliot, Odum, and Gross-Matos are still going to make decent money given their amount, even if it's backloaded. And if we cut these guys after 1 year, there will be some amount of dead cap.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by bmvanthiel:
Originally posted by joeknows:
Originally posted by bmvanthiel:
I don't understand these low tier players that get a good chunk of cash.
Example: Elliot 5mil/yr, Odom 5 mil, Gross-Matos 9 mil.
19 mil there where you could actually get a stud
That would be a hell of a stud, that can play DT, Safety, and Edge!
Wouldnt have to. You fill in those backup and rotational roles with draft picks who make 1 mil a year
We sometimes spend too much time trying to figure out how they are able to sign certain players. I let the front office worry about that. That's their job.
