49ers sign QB Josh Dobbs

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by floridaMan:

He's moved to a new team 10 times since 2017. I don't know what people were expecting.

Question: Who has a better chance at being QB2 on another team, Dobbs or Allen?

Dobbs would have the better chance to walk into a situation off the street and bake a cake from scratch but here in this system it appears that BA has had a couple years to be able to regurgitate the whole menu

Just give Dobbs time and if he grasps this system his talent will eventually win out

Respectfully, that don't answer my question.

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by evil:
The decision for the number 2 job isn't solely based off of what we as fans can glean from watching preseason games.

The team has had the opportunity to see both guys in mincamps, OTAs, TC, practices and off the field in both the film and meeting rooms that none of us are privvy to.

Originally posted by floridaMan:

He's moved to a new team 10 times since 2017. I don't know what people were expecting.

Question: Who has a better chance at being QB2 on another team, Dobbs or Allen?

I don't think anyone would be knocking down the door to sign either for more than vet minimum. It's not like they are Darnold. Cincy may like BA though.

but other than flipping a coin, I'd go with BA, the guy who hasn't been on 10 teams 7-8 years.

edit - and this isn't a knock on Dobbs, he seems like an ok dude.

The Kyle Shanahan fandom is ridiculous. The number of ppl justifying this BS decision is comical.

Cant wait until this clown gets fired. Was listening to one of Grant's podcasts. Glad to hear that there's whispers that front mgmt is all in and if Shanahan doesn't deliver he ends up on the hot seat.

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Respectfully, that don't answer my question.

Your question asks for pure speculation.

This isn't speculation: He was a free agent and was acquired for ~ 2 million dollars and put into a competition to be QB2. There isn't a large market for him as a player and if you think he gets released and simply signs with another team as QB2 after missing training camp/preseason with that team, you're being unrealistic. It would take injuries for him to be put in that position… not unlike his experience last year (where he didn't play well).

Originally posted by floridaMan:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by evil:
The decision for the number 2 job isn't solely based off of what we as fans can glean from watching preseason games.

The team has had the opportunity to see both guys in mincamps, OTAs, TC, practices and off the field in both the film and meeting rooms that none of us are privvy to.

Originally posted by floridaMan:

He's moved to a new team 10 times since 2017. I don't know what people were expecting.

Question: Who has a better chance at being QB2 on another team, Dobbs or Allen?

I don't think anyone would be knocking down the door to sign either for more than vet minimum. It's not like they are Darnold. Cincy may like BA though.

but other than flipping a coin, I'd go with BA, the guy who hasn't been on 10 teams 7-8 years.

edit - and this isn't a knock on Dobbs, he seems like an ok dude.

Again, that don't answer my question. I'm not asking about who'd be beating down the door for whom. I asked who has a better chance at being QB2 on another team, Dobbs or Allen? that's it, that's all.

Originally posted by DrEll:
The Kyle Shanahan fandom is ridiculous. The number of ppl justifying this BS decision is comical.

Cant wait until this clown gets fired. Was listening to one of Grant's podcasts. Glad to hear that there's whispers that front mgmt is all in and if Shanahan doesn't deliver he ends up on the hot seat.

It's preseason, you shouldn't put too much weight into it.

also, is there any thread that doesn't trigger you?

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by floridaMan:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by evil:
The decision for the number 2 job isn't solely based off of what we as fans can glean from watching preseason games.

The team has had the opportunity to see both guys in mincamps, OTAs, TC, practices and off the field in both the film and meeting rooms that none of us are privvy to.

Originally posted by floridaMan:

He's moved to a new team 10 times since 2017. I don't know what people were expecting.

Question: Who has a better chance at being QB2 on another team, Dobbs or Allen?

I don't think anyone would be knocking down the door to sign either for more than vet minimum. It's not like they are Darnold. Cincy may like BA though.

but other than flipping a coin, I'd go with BA, the guy who hasn't been on 10 teams 7-8 years.

edit - and this isn't a knock on Dobbs, he seems like an ok dude.

Again, that don't answer my question. I'm not asking about who'd be beating down the door for whom. I asked who has a better chance at being QB2 on another team, Dobbs or Allen? that's it, that's all.

I said BA in my reply.

Originally posted by DrEll:
The Kyle Shanahan fandom is ridiculous. The number of ppl justifying this BS decision is comical.

Cant wait until this clown gets fired. Was listening to one of Grant's podcasts. Glad to hear that there's whispers that front mgmt is all in and if Shanahan doesn't deliver he ends up on the hot seat.

What's comical is getting this upset over QB2 and QB3 when we're screwed if either of them has to take the field for any meaningful snaps.

But that's not what it's about is it? Your post pretty much spells it out clearly. Even glass isn't that transparent.

Man, get a grip. My one year old cries less than you for more valid reasons.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
Respectfully, that don't answer my question.

Your question asks for pure speculation.

This isn't speculation: He was a free agent and was acquired for ~ 2 million dollars and put into a competition to be QB2. There isn't a large market for him as a player and if you think he gets released and simply signs with another team as QB2 after missing training camp/preseason with that team, you're being unrealistic. It would take injuries for him to be put in that position… not unlike his experience last year (where he didn't play well).

See, now we're not being adult about this. Let me refine the question: given the tape over the last 2 seasons, who do YOU think would have a better chance at being picked up for QB2 on another team, Dobbs or Allen?

This is not complicated!

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
You can't be serious! Trey Lance was traded.

It was my understanding he was rightfully jaded by losing out to both Brock and then a two time loser in Sam Darnold . Trey was amenable to leaving due to him being QB3 and not QB2. So now he's been traded to a new team new system and now he's yet again QB3. I'm of the w opinion he would've been better off staying here in that role and working his way up just as Brock did aside from the fact that Trey clearly needed a ton more game reps after having only played one year of college ball as QB

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
See, now we're not being adult about this. Let me refine the question: given the tape over the last 2 seasons, who do YOU think would have a better chance at being picked up for QB2 on another team, Dobbs or Allen?

This is not complicated!

My idea of a solid backup QB is someone who can seamlessly transition into the role of starter and be expected to execute the basic structure of the offense. I'm not looking for splashy athletic plays that occasionally yield solid results but can't be planned around without altering the offense in the middle of a season.

Dobbs makes some sense as a backup to players like Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Kyler Murray, Jalen Hurts. I can easily see BA being a better option in systems similar to ours.

That said, they both aren't good and like nearly every other team we'll be in big trouble if we lose our starter for significant time.

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
It was my understanding he was rightfully jaded by losing out to both Brock and then a two time loser in Sam Darnold . Trey was amenable to leaving due to him being QB3 and not QB2. So now he's been traded to a new team new system and now he's yet again QB3. I'm of the w opinion he would've been better off staying here in that role and working his way up just as Brock did aside from the fact that Trey clearly needed a ton more game reps after having only played one year of college ball as QB

Buddy we wanted to trade him, lol. He'd be here if we wanted him here.

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by DrEll:
The Kyle Shanahan fandom is ridiculous. The number of ppl justifying this BS decision is comical.

Cant wait until this clown gets fired. Was listening to one of Grant's podcasts. Glad to hear that there's whispers that front mgmt is all in and if Shanahan doesn't deliver he ends up on the hot seat.

What's comical is getting this upset over QB2 and QB3 when we're screwed if either of them has to take the field for any meaningful snaps.

But that's not what it's about is it? Your post pretty much spells it out clearly. Even glass isn't that transparent.

Man, get a grip. My one year old cries less than you for more valid reasons.

Right, because as we all know this team never loses their starting QB for prolonged periods in any given season. Or have we forgotten that we were practically relegated to QB 4 CMC vs Philly a couple years back.

it never ceases to amaze me the lengths some of you will go to defend Shanahan. The fan club alone is already stating that Allen is better than Dobbs and would be the chosen number 2 on any team when we know that would never be the case.

Can't wait until this dope ends up on the hot seat after he fails miserably AGAIN this season.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Your question asks for pure speculation.

This isn't speculation: He was a free agent and was acquired for ~ 2 million dollars and put into a competition to be QB2. There isn't a large market for him as a player and if you think he gets released and simply signs with another team as QB2 after missing training camp/preseason with that team, you're being unrealistic. It would take injuries for him to be put in that position… not unlike his experience last year (where he didn't play well).

I'm willing to wager he didn't play well beyond the first couple of games due to the fact he's not been settled in for a couple years underneath competent coaching devoid of the revolving doors of most teams constantly changing offensive coordinators. If he sticks here and studies and gets reps he'll stand his best chance

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
I'm willing to wager he didn't play well beyond the first couple of games due to the fact he's not been settled in for a couple years underneath competent coaching devoid of the revolving doors of most teams constantly changing offensive coordinators. If he sticks here and studies and gets reps he'll stand his best chance

I was referring to his play with the Vikings when he was traded. He missed camp and preseason and did not play well with them, so it's wishful thinking to believe he could ask for release and improve his standing elsewhere after missing camp and preseason with another team.