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  • Kolohe
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Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by BP13:
The thing is, Kyle can do whatever he wants, it's his team, and he's been very successful. We also don't know what goes on behind the scenes and in the meeting room. Having said that, it is interesting that lately, two veterans, Dobbs and Snead have essentially said that the 49ers do not promote based on merit. I think Kyle does a great job. I also thought Dobbs won the backup job, but that's why I'm sitting at home, and why Kyle is coaching in superbowls. He can do whatever he wants, it's not a democracy on the football field.

Honestly, don't know why people are getting so worked up at the #2 or #3 QB on the depth chart. Not only is Dobbs the highest paid QB on the team (Lmfao at that) but things can change on the dime in a game or in the next week. But with that said, I hope we never have to see both Allen or Dobbs, I'm actually gonna be really upset if I do. You don't want to lose your starting QB at any time.

Things can change on a dime ? Have you watched Kyle Shanahan over the past 7-8 years ? He's stubborn as f**k. If Purdy goes down, you know he'll ride Allen for at least 3-4 weeks before he's essentially forced to go with the best backup option. It's been his M.O. since he arrived here. He has some screws loose.

How the hell do you think Brock Purdy started, because he just deserved it or was it because of injuries to two starting QB's, that's my point.

Stop talking about Kyle Shanahan like he f**ked your mom, sister and wife.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by BP13:
The thing is, Kyle can do whatever he wants, it's his team, and he's been very successful. We also don't know what goes on behind the scenes and in the meeting room. Having said that, it is interesting that lately, two veterans, Dobbs and Snead have essentially said that the 49ers do not promote based on merit. I think Kyle does a great job. I also thought Dobbs won the backup job, but that's why I'm sitting at home, and why Kyle is coaching in superbowls. He can do whatever he wants, it's not a democracy on the football field.

Honestly, don't know why people are getting so worked up at the #2 or #3 QB on the depth chart. Not only is Dobbs the highest paid QB on the team (Lmfao at that) but things can change on the dime in a game or in the next week. But with that said, I hope we never have to see both Allen or Dobbs, I'm actually gonna be really upset if I do. You don't want to lose your starting QB at any time.

Things can change on a dime ? Have you watched Kyle Shanahan over the past 7-8 years ? He's stubborn as f**k. If Purdy goes down, you know he'll ride Allen for at least 3-4 weeks before he's essentially forced to go with the best backup option. It's been his M.O. since he arrived here. He has some screws loose.

How the hell do you think Brock Purdy started, because he just deserved it or was it because of injuries to two starting QB's, that's my point.

Stop talking about Kyle Shanahan like he f**ked your mom, sister and wife.

There will be fans that question Shanahan until this team wins a SB. Even then some will say the margin of victory was too small. That'a just the way fans are.
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by BP13:
The thing is, Kyle can do whatever he wants, it's his team, and he's been very successful. We also don't know what goes on behind the scenes and in the meeting room. Having said that, it is interesting that lately, two veterans, Dobbs and Snead have essentially said that the 49ers do not promote based on merit. I think Kyle does a great job. I also thought Dobbs won the backup job, but that's why I'm sitting at home, and why Kyle is coaching in superbowls. He can do whatever he wants, it's not a democracy on the football field.

Honestly, don't know why people are getting so worked up at the #2 or #3 QB on the depth chart. Not only is Dobbs the highest paid QB on the team (Lmfao at that) but things can change on the dime in a game or in the next week. But with that said, I hope we never have to see both Allen or Dobbs, I'm actually gonna be really upset if I do. You don't want to lose your starting QB at any time.

Things can change on a dime ? Have you watched Kyle Shanahan over the past 7-8 years ? He's stubborn as f**k. If Purdy goes down, you know he'll ride Allen for at least 3-4 weeks before he's essentially forced to go with the best backup option. It's been his M.O. since he arrived here. He has some screws loose.

How the hell do you think Brock Purdy started, because he just deserved it or was it because of injuries to two starting QB's, that's my point.

Stop talking about Kyle Shanahan like he f**ked your mom, sister and wife.

There will be fans that question Shanahan until this team wins a SB. Even then some will say the margin of victory was too small. That'a just the way fans are.

Questioning is one thing, blaming him for every little thing is another story.
Purdy 1
Dobbs 2
Mordy 3
Allen 4

This makes sense to me idk
  • DrEll
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by BP13:
The thing is, Kyle can do whatever he wants, it's his team, and he's been very successful. We also don't know what goes on behind the scenes and in the meeting room. Having said that, it is interesting that lately, two veterans, Dobbs and Snead have essentially said that the 49ers do not promote based on merit. I think Kyle does a great job. I also thought Dobbs won the backup job, but that's why I'm sitting at home, and why Kyle is coaching in superbowls. He can do whatever he wants, it's not a democracy on the football field.

Honestly, don't know why people are getting so worked up at the #2 or #3 QB on the depth chart. Not only is Dobbs the highest paid QB on the team (Lmfao at that) but things can change on the dime in a game or in the next week. But with that said, I hope we never have to see both Allen or Dobbs, I'm actually gonna be really upset if I do. You don't want to lose your starting QB at any time.

Things can change on a dime ? Have you watched Kyle Shanahan over the past 7-8 years ? He's stubborn as f**k. If Purdy goes down, you know he'll ride Allen for at least 3-4 weeks before he's essentially forced to go with the best backup option. It's been his M.O. since he arrived here. He has some screws loose.

How the hell do you think Brock Purdy started, because he just deserved it or was it because of injuries to two starting QB's, that's my point.

Stop talking about Kyle Shanahan like he f**ked your mom, sister and wife.

There will be fans that question Shanahan until this team wins a SB. Even then some will say the margin of victory was too small. That'a just the way fans are.

And then there will be some that will consider him the greatest since Bill Walsh despite an 0-2.5 SB record and countless choke jobs when it counted most.

It's the "aww shucks, maybe next year" crowd. Hopefully Jed is more like his uncle and doesn't fall for this fluff…
He's simply not a Kyle type QB. Heck, he was calling/pointing at the Mike LB and seems to be changing protection at the line, in the preseason 😅.
Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
Has Kyle ever liked a minority QB? Ever?

Are you retarded?
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Get ready to learn GB buddy
Originally posted by JMC52:
Get ready to learn GB buddy

Not helping GB unless they give a 2nd...and maybe something late round as well. Tbh, I would just keep Dobbs. If Purdy gets hurt we will need him once Brandon Allen shows he's a pumpkin.
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by JMC52:
Get ready to learn GB buddy

Not helping GB unless they give a 2nd...and maybe something late round as well. Tbh, I would just keep Dobbs. If Purdy gets hurt we will need him once Brandon Allen shows he's a pumpkin.

a 2nd lol
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Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by JMC52:
Get ready to learn GB buddy

Not helping GB unless they give a 2nd...and maybe something late round as well. Tbh, I would just keep Dobbs. If Purdy gets hurt we will need him once Brandon Allen shows he's a pumpkin.

Yep. Dobbs is an upgrade over Allen. Keep him. Trade Allen for a bag of peanuts if they offer…
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Originally posted by Zachary:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by JMC52:
Get ready to learn GB buddy

Not helping GB unless they give a 2nd...and maybe something late round as well. Tbh, I would just keep Dobbs. If Purdy gets hurt we will need him once Brandon Allen shows he's a pumpkin.

a 2nd lol

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
See, now we're not being adult about this. Let me refine the question: given the tape over the last 2 seasons, who do YOU think would have a better chance at being picked up for QB2 on another team, Dobbs or Allen?

This is not complicated!

My idea of a solid backup QB is someone who can seamlessly transition into the role of starter and be expected to execute the basic structure of the offense. I'm not looking for splashy athletic plays that occasionally yield solid results but can't be planned around without altering the offense in the middle of a season.

Dobbs makes some sense as a backup to players like Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Kyler Murray, Jalen Hurts. I can easily see BA being a better option in systems similar to ours.

That said, they both aren't good and like nearly every other team we'll be in big trouble if we lose our starter for significant time.

See, this brings me back to wondering why was Dobbs brought in in the first place. If Dobbs don't fit the system, and Shanny "trusts" Allen more due to his tenure in the system why not just let the man go so he can be at least QB2 on another team. I challenge anyone to convince me that Dobbs wouldn't land a QB2 roll much faster than Allen would on the open market. In fact, the 49ers are the only team that Allen would be QB2 on. Over the past few years Allen has shown the league absolutely nothing that would push a team to pick him up from our PS. Unless Shanny protects Dobbs he's not lasting on the PS, which is why he isn't.

Again, if I were Dobbs, given that he clearly outplayed Allen, I'd demand to be released because Doobs really never had an opportunity at QB2. Doobs is QB3 not due to his play, but due to Shanny's comfort. And THAT being the case Shanny should have never bothered even signing Dobbs in the first place. Since comfort is what won out then he should have made Tanner Mordecai QB3 and been done with it. Putting Dobbs at QB3 essentially wastes a year of Doobs career so Shanny can sooth his comfort, a career that's far more promising that Allen's. Dobbs should demand to be released.
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Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by DrEll:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by BP13:
The thing is, Kyle can do whatever he wants, it's his team, and he's been very successful. We also don't know what goes on behind the scenes and in the meeting room. Having said that, it is interesting that lately, two veterans, Dobbs and Snead have essentially said that the 49ers do not promote based on merit. I think Kyle does a great job. I also thought Dobbs won the backup job, but that's why I'm sitting at home, and why Kyle is coaching in superbowls. He can do whatever he wants, it's not a democracy on the football field.

Honestly, don't know why people are getting so worked up at the #2 or #3 QB on the depth chart. Not only is Dobbs the highest paid QB on the team (Lmfao at that) but things can change on the dime in a game or in the next week. But with that said, I hope we never have to see both Allen or Dobbs, I'm actually gonna be really upset if I do. You don't want to lose your starting QB at any time.

Things can change on a dime ? Have you watched Kyle Shanahan over the past 7-8 years ? He's stubborn as f**k. If Purdy goes down, you know he'll ride Allen for at least 3-4 weeks before he's essentially forced to go with the best backup option. It's been his M.O. since he arrived here. He has some screws loose.

How the hell do you think Brock Purdy started, because he just deserved it or was it because of injuries to two starting QB's, that's my point.

Stop talking about Kyle Shanahan like he f**ked your mom, sister and wife.

There will be fans that question Shanahan until this team wins a SB. Even then some will say the margin of victory was too small. That'a just the way fans are.

And then there will be some that will consider him the greatest since Bill Walsh despite an 0-2.5 SB record and countless choke jobs when it counted most.

It's the "aww shucks, maybe next year" crowd. Hopefully Jed is more like his uncle and doesn't fall for this fluff…

Not Bill Walsh but George Seifert, yes, Shanahan is in line with them.

You want Shanahan fired, tell me who's your candidates to replace him? Lemme guess Bill Belichick is your answer right?
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
See, this brings me back to wondering why was Dobbs brought in in the first place. If Dobbs don't fit the system, and Shanny "trusts" Allen more due to his tenure in the system why not just let the man go so he can be at least QB2 on another team. I challenge anyone to convince me that Dobbs wouldn't land a QB2 roll much faster than Allen would on the open market. In fact, the 49ers are the only team that Allen would be QB2 on. Over the past few years Allen has shown the league absolutely nothing that would push a team to pick him up from our PS. Unless Shanny protects Dobbs he's not lasting on the PS, which is why he isn't.

Again, if I were Dobbs, given that he clearly outplayed Allen, I'd demand to be released because Doobs really never had an opportunity at QB2. Doobs is QB3 not due to his play, but due to Shanny's comfort. And THAT being the case Shanny should have never bothered even signing Dobbs in the first place. Since comfort is what won out then he should have made Tanner Mordecai QB3 and been done with it. Putting Dobbs at QB3 essentially wastes a year of Doobs career so Shanny can sooth his comfort, a career that's far more promising that Allen's. Dobbs should demand to be released.

QB3 demanding to be released! Um, that doesn't happen very often! I don't think that either Dobbs or Allen are good enough to throw their weight around like that. To walk out on a team paying your salary, and hope that another team might pick you up at this stage of the preseason, not too bright. You are sitting there hoping for an injury at the position.

By the way, teams aren't particularly interested in players careers unless they stay with the team.
[ Edited by English on Sep 7, 2024 at 10:16 AM ]
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