49ers sign QB Josh Dobbs

This isn't rocket surgery. Kyle likes guys that stay in the pocket and exhaust the play options he's drawn up before they take off. The guy that most reliably does that gets the nod. He does like mobile quarterbacks, but he has stated it's hard to get super athletic people to do that that have spent their whole lives being the best athlete on the field and have a long history of success running with the ball.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
See, now we're not being adult about this. Let me refine the question: given the tape over the last 2 seasons, who do YOU think would have a better chance at being picked up for QB2 on another team, Dobbs or Allen?

This is not complicated!

My idea of a solid backup QB is someone who can seamlessly transition into the role of starter and be expected to execute the basic structure of the offense. I'm not looking for splashy athletic plays that occasionally yield solid results but can't be planned around without altering the offense in the middle of a season.

Dobbs makes some sense as a backup to players like Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Kyler Murray, Jalen Hurts. I can easily see BA being a better option in systems similar to ours.

That said, they both aren't good and like nearly every other team we'll be in big trouble if we lose our starter for significant time.

See, this brings me back to wondering why was Dobbs brought in in the first place. If Dobbs don't fit the system, and Shanny "trusts" Allen more due to his tenure in the system why not just let the man go so he can be at least QB2 on another team. I challenge anyone to convince me that Dobbs wouldn't land a QB2 roll much faster than Allen would on the open market. In fact, the 49ers are the only team that Allen would be QB2 on. Over the past few years Allen has shown the league absolutely nothing that would push a team to pick him up from our PS. Unless Shanny protects Dobbs he's not lasting on the PS, which is why he isn't.

Again, if I were Dobbs, given that he clearly outplayed Allen, I'd demand to be released because Doobs really never had an opportunity at QB2. Doobs is QB3 not due to his play, but due to Shanny's comfort. And THAT being the case Shanny should have never bothered even signing Dobbs in the first place. Since comfort is what won out then he should have made Tanner Mordecai QB3 and been done with it. Putting Dobbs at QB3 essentially wastes a year of Doobs career so Shanny can sooth his comfort, a career that's far more promising that Allen's. Dobbs should demand to be released.

If I'm Dobbs, I stick around for the magic rub of this team. A year in this system and he should smoke Allen. Win QB2 next year, then sign for 10 million or more as a starter for a team without a QB1, a la Sam Darnold.

He's not waiting 2 full seasons, he gone after this season

He's not getting that much if he remains QB3 the entire year. Definitely will be QB2 jobs available, but it won't be nearly as much money on the table.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
See, now we're not being adult about this. Let me refine the question: given the tape over the last 2 seasons, who do YOU think would have a better chance at being picked up for QB2 on another team, Dobbs or Allen?

This is not complicated!

My idea of a solid backup QB is someone who can seamlessly transition into the role of starter and be expected to execute the basic structure of the offense. I'm not looking for splashy athletic plays that occasionally yield solid results but can't be planned around without altering the offense in the middle of a season.

Dobbs makes some sense as a backup to players like Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Kyler Murray, Jalen Hurts. I can easily see BA being a better option in systems similar to ours.

That said, they both aren't good and like nearly every other team we'll be in big trouble if we lose our starter for significant time.

See, this brings me back to wondering why was Dobbs brought in in the first place. If Dobbs don't fit the system, and Shanny "trusts" Allen more due to his tenure in the system why not just let the man go so he can be at least QB2 on another team. I challenge anyone to convince me that Dobbs wouldn't land a QB2 roll much faster than Allen would on the open market. In fact, the 49ers are the only team that Allen would be QB2 on. Over the past few years Allen has shown the league absolutely nothing that would push a team to pick him up from our PS. Unless Shanny protects Dobbs he's not lasting on the PS, which is why he isn't.

Again, if I were Dobbs, given that he clearly outplayed Allen, I'd demand to be released because Doobs really never had an opportunity at QB2. Doobs is QB3 not due to his play, but due to Shanny's comfort. And THAT being the case Shanny should have never bothered even signing Dobbs in the first place. Since comfort is what won out then he should have made Tanner Mordecai QB3 and been done with it. Putting Dobbs at QB3 essentially wastes a year of Doobs career so Shanny can sooth his comfort, a career that's far more promising that Allen's. Dobbs should demand to be released.

If I'm Dobbs, I stick around for the magic rub of this team. A year in this system and he should smoke Allen. Win QB2 next year, then sign for 10 million or more as a starter for a team without a QB1, a la Sam Darnold.

He's not waiting 2 full seasons, he gone after this season

He's not getting that much if he remains QB3 the entire year. Definitely will be QB2 jobs available, but it won't be nearly as much money on the table.

nobody is going to see that and think any differently (QB3). probably lose more money not being seen for 2 full seasons

I still think it likely just has to do with the week's preparation. Allen likely slides in better for Purdy. But if Purdy misses a start and the week of prep can be around Dobbs, Dobbs could get the start.

Also someone mentioned Allen has game bonuses but Dobbs does not. If true the niners have shown they want to get players game checks when the activated PS squad to not even play.

I'm sure Dobbs came to this team because he thought for sure he would win the backup job. He started games last year.. important ones at that. I'm sure he could have went to a team with a shaky starter, hoping to beat out the starter... or come in sometime in the season if the starter struggled.

But felt with Darnold leaving... he could easily beat out Allen...and be one play away (not that he hopes for this) from having this this offense... this play caller.. .to boost up his career into getting a good contract next year. Or if nothing else, be part of something special and learning a lot along the way.

I think that is why he was open about feeling he was surprised he didn't get the nod for #2.

Originally posted by BOI49er:
This isn't rocket surgery. Kyle likes guys that stay in the pocket and exhaust the play options he's drawn up before they take off. The guy that most reliably does that gets the nod. He does like mobile quarterbacks, but he has stated it's hard to get super athletic people to do that that have spent their whole lives being the best athlete on the field and have a long history of success running with the ball.

But is it astronaut surgery?

Originally posted by JMC52:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
This isn't rocket surgery. Kyle likes guys that stay in the pocket and exhaust the play options he's drawn up before they take off. The guy that most reliably does that gets the nod. He does like mobile quarterbacks, but he has stated it's hard to get super athletic people to do that that have spent their whole lives being the best athlete on the field and have a long history of success running with the ball.

But is it astronaut surgery?

I don't know. Do I look like a brain scientist to you?

It's not difficult. Dobbs has always been a 3 till last year. Allen was a 2. It's always good to bring in good QBs out to compete and challenge Allen.. If they all work out. You trade one.
Neither is a good QB but both are ok as the no 2. Dobbs did better in the games. He did what we hoped Lance would do. Shanny said Allen did better in practice. He is more comfortable being here longer. Dobbs is crazy smart and it takes a bit to be comfortable in this offense. Shanny likes that Allen is similar to Purdy. He doesn't have to change the play calls. He will execute them as designed. Dobbs brings exciting extra stuff. It could be Dobbs will pull ahead the longer he's here but it's likely he prefers Alien. We had to keep 3 to start. We got Modecai to the practice squad now. He can be the 3 in the playoffs and 2 next year.
Love got hurt and Dobbs would. be perfect there. We need a spot for Trent. I would trade Dobbs for a 4th or 5th.

Dobbs could start for many teams, lots of crappy QB play week 1

Originally posted by Predator85:
Dobbs could start for many teams, lots of crappy QB play week 1

Sam Darnold shined once he got away from Kyle.

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by Predator85:
Dobbs could start for many teams, lots of crappy QB play week 1

Sam Darnold shined on e he got away from Kyle.

Yyeah, he really looked good.

Originally posted by Predator85:
Dobbs could start for many teams, lots of crappy QB play week 1

I anticipate by the end of this season, Dobbs will be QB2.

Originally posted by Patton:
Sam Darnold shined on e he got away from Kyle.

Lol

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by Predator85:
Dobbs could start for many teams, lots of crappy QB play week 1

Sam Darnold shined on e he got away from Kyle.

Yup, last year as QB2 for us was a blemish on an otherwise faultless career.

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by Patton:

Originally posted by Predator85:
Dobbs could start for many teams, lots of crappy QB play week 1

Sam Darnold shined on e he got away from Kyle.

Yup, last year as QB2 for us was a blemish on an otherwise faultless career.

Lmao 🤣

I see what you did there 👍🍻