Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by Giedi:
I've read statistics where after prison, the rate of repeat offenders or doing worse crime is between (best case scenario) 60% to worst case scenario - 80+%.
When a person is that steeped in negativity, there's only a small chance he can get out of it. A lot of gangs form because the members of the gang, their home situation is so abusive that being in a gang is actually (in a sense) less abusive and is actuslly a step up in the level of *family* structure than their own biological family.
Yeah, I mean I get all of that. But lots of people come from broken homes and don't commit crimes nor join gangs. I don't have a lot of sympathy for those who do crimes such as this one. Should they get help/treatment/counseling? Yes. But they can get it in prison and after they leave.
So are you saying, lighter sentence or none at all for this guy, because he could have a broken home life? Or because he could be a repeat offender? Or be subject to gangs? We know nothing about this guy so far. I really think he gets about 4 yrs plus one yr probation, will not be able to own a firearm ever, mandatory classes or counseling.
I'm ancient. So I know enough to know, in my life, that people can't change other people. Only he (the perpetrator of the crime) can change himself. Its his choice. Not you, me, or the prison guards. We can only be an example.
Prison - in a way - protects society from harm from these people steeped in negativity, and unfortunately it keeps these negative people with other negative people and now its hard for them to change even if they want to, becuase of the prison association makes them even more negative.
Its a tough problem that nobody has really solved since the beginning of the human race.
Well, the Roman's did two millennia ago, but you've got to be pretty brutal. They didn't have no stinkin prisons. They either fined you, exiled you, sold you into slavery, or executed you.
You got a problem with that? Yeah. Me too. But they thought it worked just fine.