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Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
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Attempted murder would be one

Makes no sense.

I'm so glad Ricky didn't lose his life to this young dumbass kid. No one would care as the focus would simply shift to revenge. How would this help Ricky though? Ricky is the victim here. So if Ricky said let him walk should the DA still charge the kid?

Do you think parents should get the sentence when minors commit a violent crime?

Lol. Do you just have dumb takes on purpose to every topic? I find it hard to believe you can be so dense

Ever heard of group think?
[ Edited by glorydayz on Sep 4, 2024 at 12:13 PM ]
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
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Makes no sense.

I'm so glad Ricky didn't lose his life to this young dumbass kid. No one would care as the focus would simply shift to revenge. How would this help Ricky though? Ricky is the victim here. So if Ricky said let him walk should the DA still charge the kid?

Do you think parents should get the sentence when minors commit a violent crime?

Lol. Do you just have dumb takes on purpose to every topic? I find it hard to believe you can be so dense

Ever heard of group think?
Ever heard of common sense?
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
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What is an adult crime?

Attempted murder would be one

Makes no sense.

I'm so glad Ricky didn't lose his life to this young dumbass kid. No one would care as the focus would simply shift to revenge. How would this help Ricky though? Ricky is the victim here. So if Ricky said let him walk should the DA still charge the kid?

Do you think parents should get the sentence when minors commit a violent crime?

You keep throwing the word revenge. Who mentioned revenge? I think you're confusing justice for revenge
Originally posted by Alfienator:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
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Attempted murder would be one

Makes no sense.

I'm so glad Ricky didn't lose his life to this young dumbass kid. No one would care as the focus would simply shift to revenge. How would this help Ricky though? Ricky is the victim here. So if Ricky said let him walk should the DA still charge the kid?

Do you think parents should get the sentence when minors commit a violent crime?

You keep throwing the word revenge. Who mentioned revenge? I think you're confusing justice for revenge

Part of justice means PUNISHMENT (it's not about revenge) and KEEPING this person AWAY from society (he is a grave danger). That's what he's missing. If there is no punishment what is to prevent people from committing crimes all day long?
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Alfienator:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
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Makes no sense.

I'm so glad Ricky didn't lose his life to this young dumbass kid. No one would care as the focus would simply shift to revenge. How would this help Ricky though? Ricky is the victim here. So if Ricky said let him walk should the DA still charge the kid?

Do you think parents should get the sentence when minors commit a violent crime?

You keep throwing the word revenge. Who mentioned revenge? I think you're confusing justice for revenge

Part of justice means PUNISHMENT (it's not about revenge) and KEEPING this person AWAY from society (he is a grave danger). That's what he's missing. If there is no punishment what is to prevent people from committing crimes all day long?

Keeping a person away from society is a short term fix. Making someone is prepared to re-enter society is the long term answer.
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Alfienator:
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You keep throwing the word revenge. Who mentioned revenge? I think you're confusing justice for revenge

Part of justice means PUNISHMENT (it's not about revenge) and KEEPING this person AWAY from society (he is a grave danger). That's what he's missing. If there is no punishment what is to prevent people from committing crimes all day long?

Keeping a person away from society is a short term fix. Making someone is prepared to re-enter society is the long term answer.

So the serial killer who killed 25 people and put them in shallow graves along the river bank should be let out? Because it's a "short term fix?"

[ Edited by SanDiego49er on Sep 4, 2024 at 12:38 PM ]
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
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Part of justice means PUNISHMENT (it's not about revenge) and KEEPING this person AWAY from society (he is a grave danger). That's what he's missing. If there is no punishment what is to prevent people from committing crimes all day long?

Keeping a person away from society is a short term fix. Making someone is prepared to re-enter society is the long term answer.

So the serial killer who killed 25 people and put them in shallow graves along the river bank should be let out? Because it's a "short term fix?"


Ted Bundy would have loved to re-enter society. LOL
Originally posted by Wrathman:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
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Keeping a person away from society is a short term fix. Making someone is prepared to re-enter society is the long term answer.

So the serial killer who killed 25 people and put them in shallow graves along the river bank should be let out? Because it's a "short term fix?"


Ted Bundy would have loved to re-enter society. LOL

The Green River killer too.
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Alfienator:
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You keep throwing the word revenge. Who mentioned revenge? I think you're confusing justice for revenge

Part of justice means PUNISHMENT (it's not about revenge) and KEEPING this person AWAY from society (he is a grave danger). That's what he's missing. If there is no punishment what is to prevent people from committing crimes all day long?

Keeping a person away from society is a short term fix. Making someone is prepared to re-enter society is the long term answer.

Put a bullet in him and be done with it. Then bill the family for the cost of the bullet
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
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Part of justice means PUNISHMENT (it's not about revenge) and KEEPING this person AWAY from society (he is a grave danger). That's what he's missing. If there is no punishment what is to prevent people from committing crimes all day long?

Keeping a person away from society is a short term fix. Making someone is prepared to re-enter society is the long term answer.

Put a bullet in him and be done with it. Then bill the family for the cost of the bullet

KGB style
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
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Part of justice means PUNISHMENT (it's not about revenge) and KEEPING this person AWAY from society (he is a grave danger). That's what he's missing. If there is no punishment what is to prevent people from committing crimes all day long?

Keeping a person away from society is a short term fix. Making someone is prepared to re-enter society is the long term answer.

So the serial killer who killed 25 people and put them in shallow graves along the river bank should be let out? Because it's a "short term fix?"


If thats what the folks who get paid to make those decisions feel should happen, not my profession so I don't know. But you seem to be the professional here.

I don't know too many serial killers that have been allowed to do that though, do you?
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Alfienator:
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You keep throwing the word revenge. Who mentioned revenge? I think you're confusing justice for revenge

Part of justice means PUNISHMENT (it's not about revenge) and KEEPING this person AWAY from society (he is a grave danger). That's what he's missing. If there is no punishment what is to prevent people from committing crimes all day long?

Keeping a person away from society is a short term fix. Making someone is prepared to re-enter society is the long term answer.

That is a naive fallacy

If history has shown us anything, you can seldom fix dangerous people.....

There are cases when people kill in perceived self defense, or as a mob...that go on to be mostly peaceful... but genreally speaking the risk to society is not worth it....you can't fix murder.

Here is the Recidivism rate nation wide for violent crime

• 62% of male releasees had been returned to prison, compared to 47% of females;

• 63% of Blacks had been reincarcerated compared to 59% of Whites and 60% of Hispanics;

• 30.7% had returned to prison a year after release, 48.6% by year three and 60.7% by year ten.

California does not even report 10 year trends, but in a state that has a "don't care" about muggins, theft approach....they have 45% return to prison with-in 3 years on all criminals...not just the violent like the Fed report shows.....So that is anyone that has gone to jail.

I am in my 50s, and there has ALWAYS been games played with those numbers to make it appear like there is LESS crime then there is, and there has always been bad batches of people that do not care to follow societies rules.....you can't fix that.....no one can.

Even Iceland, a VERY tiny country that is statistically proven to be the safest country on earth has a 29% Recidivism rate after one year.

You can go country by country across the entire WORLD.....no one can fix people that do not give a damn about their fellow man. The numbers world wide are remarkably similar.... You can't work it out of the in Russia, you can't beat it out of them in Asia, and you can't educate it out of them in the west.....what has proven to work....is kill them, or lock them up until they are super old. hitting 70-80 years old is the only thing that really fixes stupid and evil. When they stand a real chance of being beaten to death trying to rob and hurt others..they tend to chill out a bit.
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Makes no sense.

I'm so glad Ricky didn't lose his life to this young dumbass kid. No one would care as the focus would simply shift to revenge. How would this help Ricky though? Ricky is the victim here. So if Ricky said let him walk should the DA still charge the kid?


I don't think such choices should be left to the victims.
90 percent of the posters on this site need to get a life.
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
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Part of justice means PUNISHMENT (it's not about revenge) and KEEPING this person AWAY from society (he is a grave danger). That's what he's missing. If there is no punishment what is to prevent people from committing crimes all day long?

Keeping a person away from society is a short term fix. Making someone is prepared to re-enter society is the long term answer.

That is a naive fallacy

If history has shown us anything, you can seldom fix dangerous people.....

There are cases when people kill in perceived self defense, or as a mob...that go on to be mostly peaceful... but genreally speaking the risk to society is not worth it....you can't fix murder.

Here is the Recidivism rate nation wide for violent crime

• 62% of male releasees had been returned to prison, compared to 47% of females;

• 63% of Blacks had been reincarcerated compared to 59% of Whites and 60% of Hispanics;

• 30.7% had returned to prison a year after release, 48.6% by year three and 60.7% by year ten.

California does not even report 10 year trends, but in a state that has a "don't care" about muggins, theft approach....they have 45% return to prison with-in 3 years on all criminals...not just the violent like the Fed report shows.....So that is anyone that has gone to jail.

I am in my 50s, and there has ALWAYS been games played with those numbers to make it appear like there is LESS crime then there is, and there has always been bad batches of people that do not care to follow societies rules.....you can't fix that.....no one can.

Even Iceland, a VERY tiny country that is statistically proven to be the safest country on earth has a 29% Recidivism rate after one year.

You can go country by country across the entire WORLD.....no one can fix people that do not give a damn about their fellow man. The numbers world wide are remarkably similar.... You can't work it out of the in Russia, you can't beat it out of them in Asia, and you can't educate it out of them in the west.....what has proven to work....is kill them, or lock them up until they are super old. hitting 70-80 years old is the only thing that really fixes stupid and evil. When they stand a real chance of being beaten to death trying to rob and hurt others..they tend to chill out a bit.















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