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Dec 2, 2024 at 2:16 PM
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
He was a luxury pick in a time when we had bigger needs on the OL and DL.

Poor asset management. Pick would have been understandable if they shipped out Aiyuk and/or they ship out Deebo this off-season.

But he needs to be better. And I will no longer use the gun shot as an excuse. That was 3 months ago.

I think they picked him because they were looking aheand to next season when they would have to move on from Deebo or Aiyuk. Then Aiyuk got injured so now they probably don't have the option of trading him so Deeo is probably gone. You can't start calling Pearsalll a bust since it's been a crazy season for the whole team. Since his training camp was interupted he missed out on a lot. Camp is where rookies really learn
So they used their first 1st round pick in what three years on a player for next year as opposed to a guy that could contribute this year very interesting.

No it was a pick for what they expected to need in 2025. That's one year not 3. I'm sure if they felt there was an O lineman sitting there that could help them immeditely they might have taken him. When you draft #31 overall it's about the same as a high 2nd rounder so I don't get too hung up on the fact that it was their first round pick. He may have been able to contribute more if he hadn't lost all that time after getting shot. We'll never know for sure but I'm positive Kyle didn't know he would get shot.
There were multiple lineman that could've immediately helped them among other positions as opposed to taking a player that barring injuries would be no higher than 4th on the depth chart this season.

Does ignoring obvious needs this year in favor of possible needs next year seem wise to you?

I mean either we were all in for this season or we weren't. Some of the FO moves indicated we were, and the other moves indicated we weren't. So we end up half-assed.
Dec 2, 2024 at 2:19 PM
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by mcwoot:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Oilcan:
This pick is going to haunt us for a while. We passed on some really good offensive lineman.
We didn't pass on the good ones. They got picked before we had a chance. Solid reports said the FO wanted Rosengarten but the Ravens took him just ahead of us. Piersall hasn't really had a chance to learn and fit into the system. It will take a full offseason and TC for him to begin to show up.
There were quality lineman available at the pick in the first round just not tackles.

I liked Cooper Dejean or DVondre Sweat. I know a lot of people were high on JPJ or Frazier And we could have likely had them with a trade down to boot.
All quality options that made way more sense than a WR unless you planned on moving on from Aiyuk.

Though the FO never mentioned it, that was certainly in play at the time of the draft. Multiple sources said the BA situation was different than Deebo or Kittle's. It was clear Aiyuk was willing to leave if he could find a place he liked, and ample suitors were interested. Hence, they drafted a guy who was a precise route runner similar to Aiyuk. Of course, we know of his injury problems during TC and missed critical time to learn the system, none of which could have been predicted. (I was hoping for an OL but in reviewing the choices available against the team OL needs, I believe Piersall was the best value in that slot...but that is a conversation long gone.)

The snow in Buffalo negated his quickness in route running and made the lack of targets understandable. Last night was a game for the strong, vertical players, not quick, shifty ones. Buffalo had multiple options in that type of player, the 49ers did not.

Shakira was the leading receiver for Buffalo. He lists at 6' 190 and is the definition of quick and shifty.
Dec 2, 2024 at 2:22 PM
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Oilcan:
This pick is going to haunt us for a while. We passed on some really good offensive lineman.
We didn't pass on the good ones. They got picked before we had a chance. Solid reports said the FO wanted Rosengarten but the Ravens took him just ahead of us. Piersall hasn't really had a chance to learn and fit into the system. It will take a full offseason and TC for him to begin to show up.

I agree it's too early to tell if Pearsall is a bust but he certainly hasn't helped.
Dec 2, 2024 at 2:42 PM
[ Edited by mcwoot on Dec 2, 2024 at 2:43 PM ]
Dec 2, 2024 at 2:48 PM
Originally posted by mcwoot:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Schulzy:
He was a luxury pick in a time when we had bigger needs on the OL and DL.

Poor asset management. Pick would have been understandable if they shipped out Aiyuk and/or they ship out Deebo this off-season.

But he needs to be better. And I will no longer use the gun shot as an excuse. That was 3 months ago.

I think they picked him because they were looking aheand to next season when they would have to move on from Deebo or Aiyuk. Then Aiyuk got injured so now they probably don't have the option of trading him so Deeo is probably gone. You can't start calling Pearsalll a bust since it's been a crazy season for the whole team. Since his training camp was interupted he missed out on a lot. Camp is where rookies really learn
So they used their first 1st round pick in what three years on a player for next year as opposed to a guy that could contribute this year very interesting.

No it was a pick for what they expected to need in 2025. That's one year not 3. I'm sure if they felt there was an O lineman sitting there that could help them immeditely they might have taken him. When you draft #31 overall it's about the same as a high 2nd rounder so I don't get too hung up on the fact that it was their first round pick. He may have been able to contribute more if he hadn't lost all that time after getting shot. We'll never know for sure but I'm positive Kyle didn't know he would get shot.
There were multiple lineman that could've immediately helped them among other positions as opposed to taking a player that barring injuries would be no higher than 4th on the depth chart this season.

Does ignoring obvious needs this year in favor of possible needs next year seem wise to you?

I mean either we were all in for this season or we weren't. Some of the FO moves indicated we were, and the other moves indicated we weren't. So we end up half-assed.
Half-assed describes it perfectly.
Dec 2, 2024 at 3:27 PM
Originally posted by mcwoot:
can't throw the ball to himself
Dec 2, 2024 at 3:28 PM
He fell over when it was passed to him.
Dec 2, 2024 at 4:08 PM
  • Koldo
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by mcwoot:
can't throw the ball to himself

Particularly when he's never open.
Dec 2, 2024 at 4:13 PM
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by mcwoot:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Oilcan:
This pick is going to haunt us for a while. We passed on some really good offensive lineman.
We didn't pass on the good ones. They got picked before we had a chance. Solid reports said the FO wanted Rosengarten but the Ravens took him just ahead of us. Piersall hasn't really had a chance to learn and fit into the system. It will take a full offseason and TC for him to begin to show up.
There were quality lineman available at the pick in the first round just not tackles.

I liked Cooper Dejean or DVondre Sweat. I know a lot of people were high on JPJ or Frazier And we could have likely had them with a trade down to boot.
All quality options that made way more sense than a WR unless you planned on moving on from Aiyuk.

Though the FO never mentioned it, that was certainly in play at the time of the draft. Multiple sources said the BA situation was different than Deebo or Kittle's. It was clear Aiyuk was willing to leave if he could find a place he liked, and ample suitors were interested. Hence, they drafted a guy who was a precise route runner similar to Aiyuk. Of course, we know of his injury problems during TC and missed critical time to learn the system, none of which could have been predicted. (I was hoping for an OL but in reviewing the choices available against the team OL needs, I believe Piersall was the best value in that slot...but that is a conversation long gone.)

The snow in Buffalo negated his quickness in route running and made the lack of targets understandable. Last night was a game for the strong, vertical players, not quick, shifty ones. Buffalo had multiple options in that type of player, the 49ers did not.
The decision to move on from Aiyuk should've been made when they selected Pearsall.
Dec 2, 2024 at 4:16 PM
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by mcwoot:
can't throw the ball to himself

Particularly when he's never open.
yeah never... like you would be truthful in here
Dec 2, 2024 at 5:04 PM
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by mcwoot:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Oilcan:
This pick is going to haunt us for a while. We passed on some really good offensive lineman.
We didn't pass on the good ones. They got picked before we had a chance. Solid reports said the FO wanted Rosengarten but the Ravens took him just ahead of us. Piersall hasn't really had a chance to learn and fit into the system. It will take a full offseason and TC for him to begin to show up.
There were quality lineman available at the pick in the first round just not tackles.

I liked Cooper Dejean or DVondre Sweat. I know a lot of people were high on JPJ or Frazier And we could have likely had them with a trade down to boot.
All quality options that made way more sense than a WR unless you planned on moving on from Aiyuk.

Though the FO never mentioned it, that was certainly in play at the time of the draft. Multiple sources said the BA situation was different than Deebo or Kittle's. It was clear Aiyuk was willing to leave if he could find a place he liked, and ample suitors were interested. Hence, they drafted a guy who was a precise route runner similar to Aiyuk. Of course, we know of his injury problems during TC and missed critical time to learn the system, none of which could have been predicted. (I was hoping for an OL but in reviewing the choices available against the team OL needs, I believe Piersall was the best value in that slot...but that is a conversation long gone.)

The snow in Buffalo negated his quickness in route running and made the lack of targets understandable. Last night was a game for the strong, vertical players, not quick, shifty ones. Buffalo had multiple options in that type of player, the 49ers did not.
The decision to move on from Aiyuk should've been made when they selected Pearsall.

We will never know but I believe the plan was to move on from Deebo with Piersall and BA being the top WRs. This season with opponents playing a lot of man, Deebo's inability to beat coverage has suggested that plan may prove to be the best. Time will tell.
Dec 2, 2024 at 5:05 PM
Originally posted by HONEYBADGER:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by mcwoot:
Originally posted by DaleGribble:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by Oilcan:
This pick is going to haunt us for a while. We passed on some really good offensive lineman.
We didn't pass on the good ones. They got picked before we had a chance. Solid reports said the FO wanted Rosengarten but the Ravens took him just ahead of us. Piersall hasn't really had a chance to learn and fit into the system. It will take a full offseason and TC for him to begin to show up.
There were quality lineman available at the pick in the first round just not tackles.

I liked Cooper Dejean or DVondre Sweat. I know a lot of people were high on JPJ or Frazier And we could have likely had them with a trade down to boot.
All quality options that made way more sense than a WR unless you planned on moving on from Aiyuk.

Though the FO never mentioned it, that was certainly in play at the time of the draft. Multiple sources said the BA situation was different than Deebo or Kittle's. It was clear Aiyuk was willing to leave if he could find a place he liked, and ample suitors were interested. Hence, they drafted a guy who was a precise route runner similar to Aiyuk. Of course, we know of his injury problems during TC and missed critical time to learn the system, none of which could have been predicted. (I was hoping for an OL but in reviewing the choices available against the team OL needs, I believe Piersall was the best value in that slot...but that is a conversation long gone.)

The snow in Buffalo negated his quickness in route running and made the lack of targets understandable. Last night was a game for the strong, vertical players, not quick, shifty ones. Buffalo had multiple options in that type of player, the 49ers did not.

Shakira was the leading receiver for Buffalo. He lists at 6' 190 and is the definition of quick and shifty.

I would bet he wasn't wearing molded cleats. Makes a ton of difference.
Dec 2, 2024 at 5:06 PM
Originally posted by mcwoot:

Ya.....this needs to stop. DEEBO NEEDS TO RIDE THE BENCH. Jennings and Pearsall.
Dec 2, 2024 at 5:10 PM
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by mcwoot:
can't throw the ball to himself

Particularly when he's never open.

Except film shows otherwise
Dec 2, 2024 at 5:16 PM
  • Koldo
  • Veteran
  • Posts: 4,809
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by mcwoot:
can't throw the ball to himself

Particularly when he's never open.

Except film shows otherwise

Please, prove me wrong.
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