SWB Ricky Pearsall-WR-Florida; 31st Pick 2024 Draft - NO politics

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by mcwoot:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Oilcan:
This pick is going to haunt us for a while. We passed on some really good offensive lineman.

We didn't pass on the good ones. They got picked before we had a chance. Solid reports said the FO wanted Rosengarten but the Ravens took him just ahead of us. Piersall hasn't really had a chance to learn and fit into the system. It will take a full offseason and TC for him to begin to show up.

There were quality lineman available at the pick in the first round just not tackles.

I liked Cooper Dejean or DVondre Sweat. I know a lot of people were high on JPJ or Frazier And we could have likely had them with a trade down to boot.

All quality options that made way more sense than a WR unless you planned on moving on from Aiyuk.

Though the FO never mentioned it, that was certainly in play at the time of the draft. Multiple sources said the BA situation was different than Deebo or Kittle's. It was clear Aiyuk was willing to leave if he could find a place he liked, and ample suitors were interested. Hence, they drafted a guy who was a precise route runner similar to Aiyuk. Of course, we know of his injury problems during TC and missed critical time to learn the system, none of which could have been predicted. (I was hoping for an OL but in reviewing the choices available against the team OL needs, I believe Piersall was the best value in that slot...but that is a conversation long gone.)

The snow in Buffalo negated his quickness in route running and made the lack of targets understandable. Last night was a game for the strong, vertical players, not quick, shifty ones. Buffalo had multiple options in that type of player, the 49ers did not.

The decision to move on from Aiyuk should've been made when they selected Pearsall.

We will never know but I believe the plan was to move on from Deebo with Piersall and BA being the top WRs. This season with opponents playing a lot of man, Deebo's inability to beat coverage has suggested that plan may prove to be the best. Time will tell.

If that was the plan why did they restructure Deebo?

Pearsall may end up being a fine player but he added nowhere near the value that multiple other players at more pressing positions would have to this team this year.

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by mcwoot:

Ricky Pearsall's last 3 games:

• 63 routes ran
• 3 targets
• 0 catches
• 0 yards pic.twitter.com/FDEgX85hWn

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) December 2, 2024

can't throw the ball to himself

Particularly when he's never open.

Except film shows otherwise

Please, prove me wrong.

Film already has. But carry on. Youve already classified him as a bust, so not like you would concede anything anyways .

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by mcwoot:

Ricky Pearsall's last 3 games:

• 63 routes ran
• 3 targets
• 0 catches
• 0 yards pic.twitter.com/FDEgX85hWn

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) December 2, 2024

can't throw the ball to himself

Particularly when he's never open.

Except film shows otherwise

Please, prove me wrong.

Film already has. But carry on. Youve already classified him as a bust, so not like you would concede anything anyways .

gotta love these guys who make foolish statements and ask others to prove them wrong lol

Originally posted by mcwoot:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Oilcan:
This pick is going to haunt us for a while. We passed on some really good offensive lineman.

We didn't pass on the good ones. They got picked before we had a chance. Solid reports said the FO wanted Rosengarten but the Ravens took him just ahead of us. Piersall hasn't really had a chance to learn and fit into the system. It will take a full offseason and TC for him to begin to show up.

There were quality lineman available at the pick in the first round just not tackles.

I liked Cooper Dejean or DVondre Sweat. I know a lot of people were high on JPJ or Frazier And we could have likely had them with a trade down to boot.

If you only knew how much.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by mcwoot:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Oilcan:
This pick is going to haunt us for a while. We passed on some really good offensive lineman.

We didn't pass on the good ones. They got picked before we had a chance. Solid reports said the FO wanted Rosengarten but the Ravens took him just ahead of us. Piersall hasn't really had a chance to learn and fit into the system. It will take a full offseason and TC for him to begin to show up.

There were quality lineman available at the pick in the first round just not tackles.

I liked Cooper Dejean or DVondre Sweat. I know a lot of people were high on JPJ or Frazier And we could have likely had them with a trade down to boot.

All quality options that made way more sense than a WR unless you planned on moving on from Aiyuk.

Though the FO never mentioned it, that was certainly in play at the time of the draft. Multiple sources said the BA situation was different than Deebo or Kittle's. It was clear Aiyuk was willing to leave if he could find a place he liked, and ample suitors were interested. Hence, they drafted a guy who was a precise route runner similar to Aiyuk. Of course, we know of his injury problems during TC and missed critical time to learn the system, none of which could have been predicted. (I was hoping for an OL but in reviewing the choices available against the team OL needs, I believe Piersall was the best value in that slot...but that is a conversation long gone.)

The snow in Buffalo negated his quickness in route running and made the lack of targets understandable. Last night was a game for the strong, vertical players, not quick, shifty ones. Buffalo had multiple options in that type of player, the 49ers did not.

The decision to move on from Aiyuk should've been made when they selected Pearsall.

We will never know but I believe the plan was to move on from Deebo with Piersall and BA being the top WRs. This season with opponents playing a lot of man, Deebo's inability to beat coverage has suggested that plan may prove to be the best. Time will tell.

If that was the plan why did they restructure Deebo?

Pearsall may end up being a fine player but he added nowhere near the value that multiple other players at more pressing positions would have to this team this year.

Restructure was an insurance plan that created future flexibility.

As to value at that pick, I disagree that there was better value at a position of need. There was need but not value.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by mcwoot:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Oilcan:
This pick is going to haunt us for a while. We passed on some really good offensive lineman.

We didn't pass on the good ones. They got picked before we had a chance. Solid reports said the FO wanted Rosengarten but the Ravens took him just ahead of us. Piersall hasn't really had a chance to learn and fit into the system. It will take a full offseason and TC for him to begin to show up.

There were quality lineman available at the pick in the first round just not tackles.

I liked Cooper Dejean or DVondre Sweat. I know a lot of people were high on JPJ or Frazier And we could have likely had them with a trade down to boot.

All quality options that made way more sense than a WR unless you planned on moving on from Aiyuk.

Though the FO never mentioned it, that was certainly in play at the time of the draft. Multiple sources said the BA situation was different than Deebo or Kittle's. It was clear Aiyuk was willing to leave if he could find a place he liked, and ample suitors were interested. Hence, they drafted a guy who was a precise route runner similar to Aiyuk. Of course, we know of his injury problems during TC and missed critical time to learn the system, none of which could have been predicted. (I was hoping for an OL but in reviewing the choices available against the team OL needs, I believe Piersall was the best value in that slot...but that is a conversation long gone.)

The snow in Buffalo negated his quickness in route running and made the lack of targets understandable. Last night was a game for the strong, vertical players, not quick, shifty ones. Buffalo had multiple options in that type of player, the 49ers did not.

The decision to move on from Aiyuk should've been made when they selected Pearsall.

We will never know but I believe the plan was to move on from Deebo with Piersall and BA being the top WRs. This season with opponents playing a lot of man, Deebo's inability to beat coverage has suggested that plan may prove to be the best. Time will tell.

If that was the plan why did they restructure Deebo?

Pearsall may end up being a fine player but he added nowhere near the value that multiple other players at more pressing positions would have to this team this year.

Restructure was an insurance plan that created future flexibility.

As to value at that pick, I disagree that there was better value at a position of need. There was need but not value.

The restructure made it more costly to move on from him.

I'd consider a day one starting caliber C or DB much more valuable than a 4th WR.

Hope he dances less and starts putting in the work and take it more seriously during practice.

Pearsall does not like to mix it up during blocks I noticed.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by mcwoot:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Oilcan:
This pick is going to haunt us for a while. We passed on some really good offensive lineman.

We didn't pass on the good ones. They got picked before we had a chance. Solid reports said the FO wanted Rosengarten but the Ravens took him just ahead of us. Piersall hasn't really had a chance to learn and fit into the system. It will take a full offseason and TC for him to begin to show up.

There were quality lineman available at the pick in the first round just not tackles.

I liked Cooper Dejean or DVondre Sweat. I know a lot of people were high on JPJ or Frazier And we could have likely had them with a trade down to boot.

All quality options that made way more sense than a WR unless you planned on moving on from Aiyuk.

Though the FO never mentioned it, that was certainly in play at the time of the draft. Multiple sources said the BA situation was different than Deebo or Kittle's. It was clear Aiyuk was willing to leave if he could find a place he liked, and ample suitors were interested. Hence, they drafted a guy who was a precise route runner similar to Aiyuk. Of course, we know of his injury problems during TC and missed critical time to learn the system, none of which could have been predicted. (I was hoping for an OL but in reviewing the choices available against the team OL needs, I believe Piersall was the best value in that slot...but that is a conversation long gone.)

The snow in Buffalo negated his quickness in route running and made the lack of targets understandable. Last night was a game for the strong, vertical players, not quick, shifty ones. Buffalo had multiple options in that type of player, the 49ers did not.

The decision to move on from Aiyuk should've been made when they selected Pearsall.

We will never know but I believe the plan was to move on from Deebo with Piersall and BA being the top WRs. This season with opponents playing a lot of man, Deebo's inability to beat coverage has suggested that plan may prove to be the best. Time will tell.

If that was the plan why did they restructure Deebo?

Pearsall may end up being a fine player but he added nowhere near the value that multiple other players at more pressing positions would have to this team this year.

Restructure was an insurance plan that created future flexibility.

As to value at that pick, I disagree that there was better value at a position of need. There was need but not value.

The restructure made it more costly to move on from him.

I'd consider a day one starting caliber C or DB much more valuable than a 4th WR.

The selection of Ricky goes to show how awful this team is at drafting in the 1st round under this regime.

I'd prefer Lynch trades the pick for day two picks going forward.

The smart move would have been to draft a C or OT.

We had a need and there was plenty of value.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
The restructure made it more costly to move on from him.

I'd consider a day one starting caliber C or DB much more valuable than a 4th WR.

Me too, much more valuable than a 4th WR.

Originally posted by PatandBow:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
The restructure made it more costly to move on from him.

I'd consider a day one starting caliber C or DB much more valuable than a 4th WR.

Me too, much more valuable than a 4th WR.

There wasn't a day one starting center available when they drafted. At least not anyone they liked. This year they'll be drafting higher so maybe they will be lucky enough to be able to get a good linemen. They still might pass and address another position of need if they feel there's better quality at D line. RB is a positon of need but not in the early rounds. They need another quality LB since Greenlaw is still a question mark coming back from a serios injury. Their defensive scheme relies a lot on LBs to plug the gaps.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by PatandBow:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
The restructure made it more costly to move on from him.

I'd consider a day one starting caliber C or DB much more valuable than a 4th WR.

Me too, much more valuable than a 4th WR.

There wasn't a day one starting center available when they drafted. At least not anyone they liked. This year they'll be drafting higher so maybe they will be lucky enough to be able to get a good linemen. They still might pass and address another position of need if they feel there's better quality at D line. RB is a positon of need but not in the early rounds. They need another quality LB since Greenlaw is still a question mark coming back from a serios injury. Their defensive scheme relies a lot on LBs to plug the gaps.

JPJ; Frazier

The "not anyone they liked" saved you from that false statement

still a lot of time, but he's on his way to looking like another bust

what a STUPID decision it was to take a WR when this roster had so many glaring holes.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by PatandBow:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
The restructure made it more costly to move on from him.

I'd consider a day one starting caliber C or DB much more valuable than a 4th WR.

Me too, much more valuable than a 4th WR.

There wasn't a day one starting center available when they drafted. At least not anyone they liked. This year they'll be drafting higher so maybe they will be lucky enough to be able to get a good linemen. They still might pass and address another position of need if they feel there's better quality at D line. RB is a positon of need but not in the early rounds. They need another quality LB since Greenlaw is still a question mark coming back from a serios injury. Their defensive scheme relies a lot on LBs to plug the gaps.

JPJ; Frazier

The "not anyone they liked" saved you from that false statement

That's all that counts. It doesn't matter who some draft guru thinks is good. Every guy with a computer can make a mock draft. The team has it's scouts and they have to decide if a player is someone worth drafting. Then Kyle and John need to decide if he fits their plans . Then that player needs to be there when they pick.

If drafting was as easy as some fans seem to think then every team would be a SB contender.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by PatandBow:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:
The restructure made it more costly to move on from him.

I'd consider a day one starting caliber C or DB much more valuable than a 4th WR.

Me too, much more valuable than a 4th WR.

There wasn't a day one starting center available when they drafted. At least not anyone they liked. This year they'll be drafting higher so maybe they will be lucky enough to be able to get a good linemen. They still might pass and address another position of need if they feel there's better quality at D line. RB is a positon of need but not in the early rounds. They need another quality LB since Greenlaw is still a question mark coming back from a serios injury. Their defensive scheme relies a lot on LBs to plug the gaps.

JPJ; Frazier

The "not anyone they liked" saved you from that false statement

That's all that counts. It doesn't matter who some draft guru thinks is good. Every guy with a computer can make a mock draft. The team has it's scouts and they have to decide if a player is someone worth drafting. Then Kyle and John need to decide if he fits their plans . Then that player needs to be there when they pick.

If drafting was as easy as some fans seem to think then every team would be a SB contender.

If their scouts didn't think either JPJ or Frazier were worth drafting they need new scouts & if Kyle & John didn't see the need or the fit maybe they should have less say in these situations going forward.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by mcwoot:

Ricky Pearsall's last 3 games:

• 63 routes ran
• 3 targets
• 0 catches
• 0 yards pic.twitter.com/FDEgX85hWn

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) December 2, 2024

can't throw the ball to himself

Particularly when he's never open.

Except film shows otherwise

Please, prove me wrong.

Film already has. But carry on. Youve already classified him as a bust, so not like you would concede anything anyways .

I wouldn't call your imagination "film".