SWB Ricky Pearsall-WR-Florida; 31st Pick 2024 Draft - NO politics

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Maybe he's good. But what are we going to do with all these WR's? While we have other actual needs.

I think this is in the realm of time equals money.....

I think we could all agree time in a system matters...at some level...to some degree....it is not just how fast you can run, you have to know where you are suppose to be in the offense.

I Think this is a bit like TEs last year, why draft 2? Well they have to hedge against the health of the current TEs, but they know the salary cap framework they have in place will mean there is an issue next year.

I would guess, they feel the 49ers are in a position from a talent stand point, they can take players before they need them....develop them....and plug them in later when they need them. They probably slated that position at a price point that does not allow the team to keep the dudes they have, and they feel XYZ player with a year of development would be a better option then drafting XYZ player in next years draft when we actually need a new TE.

I would suspect the WRs are the same this year, only so much money can be paid for WRs, and they feel the WR room has to be reset for money issues in the near future, so maybe it is best to get those guys in the building now and develop them for when we dont have 3 super bad ass WRs just walking into the locker room every day.

So again, maybe they feel RP is worth more then other teams feel is he worth, or maybe they feel RP with a year of development will be better then a late first round WR next year.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Maybe he's good. But what are we going to do with all these WR's? While we have other actual needs.

Don't reach for needs…draft good players.

Seems like maybe they learned a lesson from last year with 9 total picks and only 2 really contributing on the field. Although Moody, I mean he didn't even have to beat anybody out because Gonzalez had a major injury.. So IDK you can even count that. The rest did little to nothing. Don't care if they were late round or not. We had plenty of injuries that afforded opportunities to step up and they still rode the bench/inactive list and/or were terrible in the chances they did get. Bell - drops, muffs, fumbles. Willis got blown up as a blocker and had a memorable untimely penalty negating a big play.

Do you really think we will have 7-9 rookies be huge contributors on a stacked veteran team? If that happened, then we either sucked ass or had a ton of injuries.

it's been one year… let's see how they look this year. Brown should be a stud, moody had a solid rookie year and made a record kick in the Super Bowl (for a minute lol), Luter & Latu were hurt but hopefully make a big jump. We should see winters and Graham duke it out for greenlaw spot but they showed promise last year. Hopefully the second TE makes a big leap too and bulls up.

you're being way too quick to judge. Historically - If you get 2 solid players out of a draft, it's a good draft. Look at how many teams get 2 solid players, get some context to what you're saying.

I got one question for you guys. If he turns out to he another Julian Edleman, is this a bad pick, yes or no?

Originally posted by goldlame2013:
I got one question for you guys. If he turns out to he another Julian Edleman, is this a bad pick, yes or no?

If he turns out to be 75% of edelman, especially playoff Jules, I'll be thrilled.

the odds of him having crazy stats in this offense, with all the talent, is unlikely. He needs to be reliable, consistent, and good on third downs. I think he will get 400-500 yards and 6 touchdowns or so his rookie year. He will most likely be our punt/kick returner this year too.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by goldlame2013:
I got one question for you guys. If he turns out to he another Julian Edleman, is this a bad pick, yes or no?

If he turns out to be 75% of edelman, especially playoff Jules, I'll be thrilled.

the odds of him having crazy stats in this offense, with all the talent, is unlikely. He needs to be reliable, consistent, and good on third downs. I think he will get 400-500 yards and 6 touchdowns or so his rookie year. He will most likely be our punt/kick returner this year too.

And that's point. Pearson wasn't drafted to replace Deebo or Aiyuk, he was drafted to compliment them both because the offense got stale and predictable. That's what happened in the Superbowl. It's time for the offense to evolve.

Originally posted by tankle104:
If he turns out to be 75% of edelman, especially playoff Jules, I'll be thrilled.

the odds of him having crazy stats in this offense, with all the talent, is unlikely. He needs to be reliable, consistent, and good on third downs. I think he will get 400-500 yards and 6 touchdowns or so his rookie year. He will most likely be our punt/kick returner this year too.

I'd be shocked if he got nearly that much playing time this year outside injury

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Maybe he's good. But what are we going to do with all these WR's? While we have other actual needs.

Don't reach for needs…draft good players.

Seems like maybe they learned a lesson from last year with 9 total picks and only 2 really contributing on the field. Although Moody, I mean he didn't even have to beat anybody out because Gonzalez had a major injury.. So IDK you can even count that. The rest did little to nothing. Don't care if they were late round or not. We had plenty of injuries that afforded opportunities to step up and they still rode the bench/inactive list and/or were terrible in the chances they did get. Bell - drops, muffs, fumbles. Willis got blown up as a blocker and had a memorable untimely penalty negating a big play.

Do you really think we will have 7-9 rookies be huge contributors on a stacked veteran team? If that happened, then we either sucked ass or had a ton of injuries.

it's been one year… let's see how they look this year. Brown should be a stud, moody had a solid rookie year and made a record kick in the Super Bowl (for a minute lol), Luter & Latu were hurt but hopefully make a big jump. We should see winters and Graham duke it out for greenlaw spot but they showed promise last year. Hopefully the second TE makes a big leap too and bulls up.

you're being way too quick to judge. Historically - If you get 2 solid players out of a draft, it's a good draft. Look at how many teams get 2 solid players, get some context to what you're saying.

Tank, I think you misunderstand. I am saying I think we made a point for quality over quantity this year. We traded up twice in this draft.

Additionally, I feel like 1/8 is not good enough. Again I'm not really counting special teams because of no competition and with what we invested we really forced our own hand ultimately. Even if you did, 2/9 still isn't good enough either for a year one contribution, and I don't mean anything crazy, just something more positive than negative at least to generate some hopefulness. 9 picks is enough to expect a hit on 2 non specialists. All three of our top WR missed time last year. Our LB2/3 both missed time.

Outside of 2022, where Purdy was the only good pick, we've done consistently better than that.

2021 - Thomas, Lenoir, Hufanga, and Mitchell all contributed year one. You could argue Lance too. 4/8 or 5/8

2020 - Kinlaw, Aiyuk, Woerner - 3/5

2019 - Bosa, Samuel, Greenlaw - 3/7 (or 4/8 if you count Wish)

2018 - every pick except Street and Julian Taylor contributed year one.

I guess I'm just saying, I am a little dissapointed that despite opportunities due to injury, none of these guys stepped up. The round picked isn't an excuse to me when you look at our past five drafts and see who contributed year one. Just my opinion.

I realize they could still improve and pan out, that's why I'm saying I'm not being too quick to judge. I'm only strictly comparing year one contribution. The fact is, despite chances, guys unfortunately didn't make the most of them. Hopefully they do better the next time.

I think Kyle realized that he only had one WR that could win route's on his own and so he went and got 2 more. Because when we face teams who have an elite #1 corner like we did in the SB, our #1 WR will probally be shut down for the most part and that's not a slight on Aiyuk, It's what lockdown corners do. They shut down, even the best receivers. So it's up to our #2 and #3 receivers to be that #1 in that game and in this game it was suppose to be Deebo and he failed. It actually turned out to be more Jennings that came through but there is a ceiling to Jennings game and you don't want to depend on him to be your #1 receiver.

Now those games where Aiyuk is facing elite corners, Pearsall might go off with 10 catches for 120+ yards. Because that team might not have that great of a #2 corner. Most teams don't.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
I think Kyle realized that he only had one WR that could win route's on his own and so he went and got 2 more. Because when we face teams who have an elite #1 corner like we did in the SB, our #1 WR will probally be shut down for the most part and that's not a slight on Aiyuk, It's what lockdown corners do. They shut down, even the best receivers. So it's up to our #2 and #3 receivers to be that #1 in that game and in this game it was suppose to be Deebo and he failed. It actually turned out to be more Jennings that came through but there is a ceiling to Jennings game and you don't want to depend on him to be your #1 receiver.

Now those games where Aiyuk is facing elite corners, Pearsall might go off with 10 catches for 120+ yards. Because that team might not have that great of a #2 corner. Most teams don't.

Exactly.

Originally posted by goldlame2013:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by goldlame2013:
I got one question for you guys. If he turns out to he another Julian Edleman, is this a bad pick, yes or no?

If he turns out to be 75% of edelman, especially playoff Jules, I'll be thrilled.

the odds of him having crazy stats in this offense, with all the talent, is unlikely. He needs to be reliable, consistent, and good on third downs. I think he will get 400-500 yards and 6 touchdowns or so his rookie year. He will most likely be our punt/kick returner this year too.

And that's point. Pearson wasn't drafted to replace Deebo or Aiyuk, he was drafted to compliment them both because the offense got stale and predictable. That's what happened in the Superbowl. It's time for the offense to evolve.

I disagree it was old and stale. We just needed guys that could separate and get open quickly in the playoffs. We got 3 guys (drafted two) that can do that. Deebo is Deebo and he has other skill sets that most other receivers don't.

Originally posted by goldlame2013:
And that's point. Pearson wasn't drafted to replace Deebo or Aiyuk, he was drafted to compliment them both because the offense got stale and predictable. That's what happened in the Superbowl. It's time for the offense to evolve.

Disagree. Maybe not immediately but he's going to have to replace Deebo or Aiyuck. A season or 2 down the road. That's football for you.

This kid looks very legit. We have a dude who I think can be a bonified man-beater in Kyle's offense both on the inside and outside with Aiyuk. A dude like this helps our pass protection by allowing Brock the ability to get the ball out faster.

Originally posted by RasSuar:
This kid looks very legit. We have a dude who I think can be a bonified man-beater in Kyle's offense both on the inside and outside with Aiyuk. A dude like this helps our pass protection by allowing Brock the ability to get the ball out faster.

He's tough as nails too, will run block without question, and he is very athletic (but who isn't in the NFL). But this is what a 42 inch vert looks like on the court:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
I think Kyle realized that he only had one WR that could win route's on his own and so he went and got 2 more. Because when we face teams who have an elite #1 corner like we did in the SB, our #1 WR will probally be shut down for the most part and that's not a slight on Aiyuk, It's what lockdown corners do. They shut down, even the best receivers. So it's up to our #2 and #3 receivers to be that #1 in that game and in this game it was suppose to be Deebo and he failed. It actually turned out to be more Jennings that came through but there is a ceiling to Jennings game and you don't want to depend on him to be your #1 receiver.

Now those games where Aiyuk is facing elite corners, Pearsall might go off with 10 catches for 120+ yards. Because that team might not have that great of a #2 corner. Most teams don't.

I agree with this, but then I ask myself who gets benched on the 3rd downs for Pearsall? Kittle? Jennings? Deebo? Obviously he will mix and match, but when we do play the better defenses your 100% right. I am curious how this evolves.