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Renardo Green-CB-FSU 2nd round-2024 NFL Draft
Apr 27, 2024 at 1:31 PM
- GoreGoreGore
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No idea how this guy wasn't a at least a 2nd round pick. Athletic, though, can play both man and zone. What he did vs LSU was damn impressive, I would be shocked if he's not a starter at some point this season.
Apr 27, 2024 at 1:36 PM
- tankle104
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Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
No idea how this guy wasn't a at least a 2nd round pick. Athletic, though, can play both man and zone. What he did vs LSU was damn impressive, I would be shocked if he's not a starter at some point this season.
it'll be interesting if they leave demo as slot or push him back to the outside and put green or Luter in the slot.
Apr 27, 2024 at 1:37 PM
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Originally posted by glorydayz:
Is he a press man CB or a nickel?
"I thought he was the best press cornerback in the draft."
— Eric Galko (@EricGalko) April 27, 2024
-@LRiddickESPN on new #49ers CB Renardo Green pic.twitter.com/dflNbwYwu0
The 49ers add to their secondary with Renardo Green 🌉
— The 33rd Team (@The33rdTeamFB) April 27, 2024
His scouting report from @gregcosell 📕
STRENGTHS:
- Good sized corner who showed the needed patience and transition to effectively play mirror-match press man coverage.
- There were press man snaps in which he was… https://t.co/jEpuhFcD6k pic.twitter.com/FzN0n61FWL
Green plays with an aggressive, tenacious mindset and approach that, at times, looked like L'Jarius Sneed, a fourth round pick in the 2020 draft out of Louisiana Tech who has developed into one of the better corners in the NFL."
Apr 27, 2024 at 2:16 PM
- Dirtydonedirtcheap69
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Originally posted by evil:
Originally posted by Dirtydonedirtcheap69:
If we helped the chiefs, that means it was a bad decision. That should be obvious.
We didn't help them. If we wanted that kid we would have stuck but we didn't, we moved back one in that round to move up in another round.
We helped ourselves later on by letting KC get whoever they liked while we still got the kid we liked.
It's not complicated.
I agree it's not complicated. You don't help the team you can't beat. What's so confusing about that?
Apr 27, 2024 at 2:21 PM
- GoreGoreGore
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
No idea how this guy wasn't a at least a 2nd round pick. Athletic, though, can play both man and zone. What he did vs LSU was damn impressive, I would be shocked if he's not a starter at some point this season.
it'll be interesting if they leave demo as slot or push him back to the outside and put green or Luter in the slot.
The good thing with Demo is we know he can play outside with no issues at all.
Green is definitely more of an outside corner, specializes in press coverage so I don't see him being a Nickel CB.
Apr 27, 2024 at 9:59 PM
- pillageDatazz
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With all the touchy grab ass moves he executes exceptionally well, Richard Sherman must be drooling all over this dude
Apr 28, 2024 at 8:03 AM
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I like this pick quite a bit, looking forward to seeing what he gunna do
Apr 28, 2024 at 8:30 AM
- eastcoast49ersfan
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Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
No idea how this guy wasn't a at least a 2nd round pick. Athletic, though, can play both man and zone. What he did vs LSU was damn impressive, I would be shocked if he's not a starter at some point this season.
Not that big (6'0 186) or fast (4.49) and older (23) so physically more mature than other prospects, only one interception in college (lots of pass breakups his senior year though so he has ball skills). He was a consensus late 3rd-early 4th round pick. Maybe other teams liked him too but there were a lot of decent corners available in the 3rd-4th rounds.
Apr 28, 2024 at 8:33 AM
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Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
Not that big (6'0 186) or fast (4.49) and older (23) so physically more mature than other prospects, only one interception in college (lots of pass breakups his senior year though so he has ball skills). He was a consensus late 3rd-early 4th round pick. Maybe other teams liked him too but there were a lot of decent corners available in the 3rd-4th rounds.
Zierlein is a big fan. Of all the draftniks he's the one that is most consistently right IMO.
Time will tell.
[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Apr 28, 2024 at 8:33 AM ]
Apr 28, 2024 at 4:18 PM
- Oilcan
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Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
No idea how this guy wasn't a at least a 2nd round pick. Athletic, though, can play both man and zone. What he did vs LSU was damn impressive, I would be shocked if he's not a starter at some point this season.
Not that big (6'0 186) or fast (4.49) and older (23) so physically more mature than other prospects, only one interception in college (lots of pass breakups his senior year though so he has ball skills). He was a consensus late 3rd-early 4th round pick. Maybe other teams liked him too but there were a lot of decent corners available in the 3rd-4th rounds.
The sights I was looking at had him going between pick 80-90 he usually didn't make it to our third pick. He was ahead of Andru Phillips who WAS picked 6 spots after we took Green. We have really reached for Kickers, Punters and TE's recently, it's not going to kill us to reach a little for a quality CB.
Apr 28, 2024 at 4:32 PM
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Originally posted by Oilcan:
Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
No idea how this guy wasn't a at least a 2nd round pick. Athletic, though, can play both man and zone. What he did vs LSU was damn impressive, I would be shocked if he's not a starter at some point this season.
Not that big (6'0 186) or fast (4.49) and older (23) so physically more mature than other prospects, only one interception in college (lots of pass breakups his senior year though so he has ball skills). He was a consensus late 3rd-early 4th round pick. Maybe other teams liked him too but there were a lot of decent corners available in the 3rd-4th rounds.
The sights I was looking at had him going between pick 80-90 he usually didn't make it to our third pick. He was ahead of Andru Phillips who WAS picked 6 spots after we took Green. We have really reached for Kickers, Punters and TE's recently, it's not going to kill us to reach a little for a quality CB.
What is a reach anyway? I get taking a LS in the first rd but when an analyst says it's a reach, how is that defined and what is the basis? Dont you have to have a comphresive big board accounting for all factors including scheme fit, character, team scouting. The accountability of analysts post draft is zero. In general, a team gets to pick once every 32 times which means you have to reach if you dont think that player will be around when you pick next. The word reach is very loose and opinionated when it comes to the draft.
[ Edited by TD49ers on Apr 28, 2024 at 4:35 PM ]
Apr 28, 2024 at 4:45 PM
- thl408
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Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Oilcan:
Originally posted by eastcoast49ersfan:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
No idea how this guy wasn't a at least a 2nd round pick. Athletic, though, can play both man and zone. What he did vs LSU was damn impressive, I would be shocked if he's not a starter at some point this season.
Not that big (6'0 186) or fast (4.49) and older (23) so physically more mature than other prospects, only one interception in college (lots of pass breakups his senior year though so he has ball skills). He was a consensus late 3rd-early 4th round pick. Maybe other teams liked him too but there were a lot of decent corners available in the 3rd-4th rounds.
The sights I was looking at had him going between pick 80-90 he usually didn't make it to our third pick. He was ahead of Andru Phillips who WAS picked 6 spots after we took Green. We have really reached for Kickers, Punters and TE's recently, it's not going to kill us to reach a little for a quality CB.
What is a reach anyway? I get taking a LS in the first rd but when an analyst says it's a reach, how is that defined and what is the basis? Dont you have to have a comphresive big board accounting for all factors including scheme fit, character, team scouting. The accountability of analysts post draft is zero. In general, a team gets to pick once every 32 times which means you have to reach if you dont think that player will be around when you pick next. The word reach is very loose and opinionated when it comes to the draft.
Good post. There's no way to know if a pick was a reach unless all GMs shared their big board with one another. GMs are also privy to medical records and maybe they've done research on a player's attitude which they add to the film to set the player's value. Draftniks (fans) aren't privy to all of that.
A crazy statement is to say Tom Brady in the 3rd round is a reach. Using hindsight, we know that he was not selected until the 6th round. So if he was selected on day 1 or day 2, that's a reach. So either hindsight, or GMs comparing notes, are the only ways to know whether a pick was a reach.
Apr 28, 2024 at 5:28 PM
- krizay
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Originally posted by TD49ers:
What is a reach anyway? I get taking a LS in the first rd but when an analyst says it's a reach, how is that defined and what is the basis? Dont you have to have a comphresive big board accounting for all factors including scheme fit, character, team scouting. The accountability of analysts post draft is zero. In general, a team gets to pick once every 32 times which means you have to reach if you dont think that player will be around when you pick next. The word reach is very loose and opinionated when it comes to the draft.
Apr 28, 2024 at 6:16 PM
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Originally posted by TD49ers:
What is a reach anyway? I get taking a LS in the first rd but when an analyst says it's a reach, how is that defined and what is the basis? Dont you have to have a comphresive big board accounting for all factors including scheme fit, character, team scouting. The accountability of analysts post draft is zero. In general, a team gets to pick once every 32 times which means you have to reach if you dont think that player will be around when you pick next. The word reach is very loose and opinionated when it comes to the draft.
Reach-when you take a player against all knowing draft gurus like Kiper and Cohn's ranking suggestion cause they know everything there is to know about.
Apr 28, 2024 at 6:48 PM
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Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
No idea how this guy wasn't a at least a 2nd round pick. Athletic, though, can play both man and zone. What he did vs LSU was damn impressive, I would be shocked if he's not a starter at some point this season.
He was a second round pick.