Malik Mustapha-S-Wake Forest

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
So is he more of a strong safety or free or both?

Strong safety

I think the 'strong' and 'free' safety labels are outdated. It made sense when the league-wide trend was the Pete Caroll Cover3, but the current schemes don't pigeon hole safeties into these two buckets - a safety must be able to do both, get into a run fit and also operate in open space. Every team will call Cover3 during gameday, and so you'll get one safety in the box and one as the middle deep safety. But they need to be interchangeable so that when it's not Cover3, neither are a noticeable liability.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
So is he more of a strong safety or free or both?

Strong safety

I think the 'strong' and 'free' safety labels are outdated. It made sense when the league-wide trend was the Pete Caroll Cover3, but the current schemes don't pigeon hole safeties into these two buckets - a safety must be able to do both, get into a run fit and also operate in open space. Every team will call Cover3 during gameday, and so you'll get one safety in the box and one as the middle deep safety. But they need to be interchangeable so that when it's not Cover3, neither are a noticeable liability.

An example is Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor. It's obvious which was the strong safety. If Kam was playing in today's schemes, he would get roasted playing Quarters. SEA never played Quarters during the peak LoBoom days.

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
So is he more of a strong safety or free or both?

Strong safety

I think the 'strong' and 'free' safety labels are outdated. It made sense when the league-wide trend was the Pete Caroll Cover3, but the current schemes don't pigeon hole safeties into these two buckets - a safety must be able to do both, get into a run fit and also operate in open space. Every team will call Cover3 during gameday, and so you'll get one safety in the box and one as the middle deep safety. But they need to be interchangeable so that when it's not Cover3, neither are a noticeable liability.

An example is Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor. It's obvious which was the strong safety. If Kam was playing in today's schemes, he would get roasted playing Quarters. SEA never played Quarters during the peak LoBoom days.

What is going to happen if it is Mustapha and Ji'yur/Huff in a two high look and Mahomies has time to chuck it with both Brown and Worthy running ahead of their covers on go routes? Well I guess most teams would be in trouble in this situation

It just looks like his strength is defending closer to the LOS.

Originally posted by thl408:
Agree. He seems better closer to the LoS, but I hope he isn't labeled as a box safety because he better not be a liability in open space. Otherwise he will never be a complete safety that can be trusted in all situations. Perhaps it's my own antiquated definition of a 'box safety' - I automatically think that a box safety means the player is a liability in coverage versus WRs.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by thl408:
Agree. He seems better closer to the LoS, but I hope he isn't labeled as a box safety because he better not be a liability in open space. Otherwise he will never be a complete safety that can be trusted in all situations. Perhaps it's my own antiquated definition of a 'box safety' - I automatically think that a box safety means the player is a liability in coverage versus WRs.

I would call him a SS. He's got some coverage ability and can move. For sure his best traits are tackling and stuff closer to the LOS vs being that sideline to sideline guy. Wonder if Lynch saw some of himself in this kid.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
So is he more of a strong safety or free or both?

Strong safety

I think the 'strong' and 'free' safety labels are outdated. It made sense when the league-wide trend was the Pete Caroll Cover3, but the current schemes don't pigeon hole safeties into these two buckets - a safety must be able to do both, get into a run fit and also operate in open space. Every team will call Cover3 during gameday, and so you'll get one safety in the box and one as the middle deep safety. But they need to be interchangeable so that when it's not Cover3, neither are a noticeable liability.

An example is Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor. It's obvious which was the strong safety. If Kam was playing in today's schemes, he would get roasted playing Quarters. SEA never played Quarters during the peak LoBoom days.

What is going to happen if it is Mustapha and Ji'yur/Huff in a two high look and Mahomies has time to chuck it with both Brown and Worthy running ahead of their covers on go routes? Well I guess most teams would be in trouble in this situation

It just looks like his strength is defending closer to the LOS.

Agree. He seems better closer to the LoS, but I hope he isn't labeled as a box safety because he better not be a liability in open space. Otherwise he will never be a complete safety that can be trusted in all situations. Perhaps it's my own antiquated definition of a 'box safety' - I automatically think that a box safety means the player is a liability in coverage versus WRs.

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
So is he more of a strong safety or free or both?

Strong safety

I think the 'strong' and 'free' safety labels are outdated. It made sense when the league-wide trend was the Pete Caroll Cover3, but the current schemes don't pigeon hole safeties into these two buckets - a safety must be able to do both, get into a run fit and also operate in open space. Every team will call Cover3 during gameday, and so you'll get one safety in the box and one as the middle deep safety. But they need to be interchangeable so that when it's not Cover3, neither are a noticeable liability.

An example is Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor. It's obvious which was the strong safety. If Kam was playing in today's schemes, he would get roasted playing Quarters. SEA never played Quarters during the peak LoBoom days.

What is going to happen if it is Mustapha and Ji'yur/Huff in a two high look and Mahomies has time to chuck it with both Brown and Worthy running ahead of their covers on go routes? Well I guess most teams would be in trouble in this situation

It just looks like his strength is defending closer to the LOS.

Agree. He seems better closer to the LoS, but I hope he isn't labeled as a box safety because he better not be a liability in open space. Otherwise he will never be a complete safety that can be trusted in all situations. Perhaps it's my own antiquated definition of a 'box safety' - I automatically think that a box safety means the player is a liability in coverage versus WRs.

That's what it means for me.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by lamontb:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
So is he more of a strong safety or free or both?

Strong safety

I think the 'strong' and 'free' safety labels are outdated. It made sense when the league-wide trend was the Pete Caroll Cover3, but the current schemes don't pigeon hole safeties into these two buckets - a safety must be able to do both, get into a run fit and also operate in open space. Every team will call Cover3 during gameday, and so you'll get one safety in the box and one as the middle deep safety. But they need to be interchangeable so that when it's not Cover3, neither are a noticeable liability.

An example is Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor. It's obvious which was the strong safety. If Kam was playing in today's schemes, he would get roasted playing Quarters. SEA never played Quarters during the peak LoBoom days.

What is going to happen if it is Mustapha and Ji'yur/Huff in a two high look and Mahomies has time to chuck it with both Brown and Worthy running ahead of their covers on go routes? Well I guess most teams would be in trouble in this situation

It just looks like his strength is defending closer to the LOS.

Agree. He seems better closer to the LoS, but I hope he isn't labeled as a box safety because he better not be a liability in open space. Otherwise he will never be a complete safety that can be trusted in all situations. Perhaps it's my own antiquated definition of a 'box safety' - I automatically think that a box safety means the player is a liability in coverage versus WRs.

That's what it means for me.

Kam Chancellor comes to mind anyone remember that guy

Originally posted by pd24:

He was huge though. Like 6'3"

Originally posted by NYniner85:

#49ers rookie S Malik Mustapha was destined to be a Niner 💫 pic.twitter.com/O4XljDYmEZ

— OurSF49ers (@OurSf49ers) April 29, 2024

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Sweet name

Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Sweet name