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Isaac Guerendo-RB-Louisville 2024 NFL Draft

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May 4, 2024 at 11:27 AM
Originally posted by maxsmart:
6.1 yards per carry
4.3 40
good blocker
good receiver (was A WR, still learning the RB)
Tough
Smart (4.0 student in mechanical engineering)
Improving with high upside
160 yards 7 yds/carry in his last bowl game against USC

What film do you have showing he's a good receiver? Clearly he wasn't good enough and became a RB. All I've seen from him is screens…his running style is yuck to me. Super upright. Not great contact balance. I don't think he has great vision.
May 4, 2024 at 11:31 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by maxsmart:
6.1 yards per carry
4.3 40
good blocker
good receiver (was A WR, still learning the RB)
Tough
Smart (4.0 student in mechanical engineering)
Improving with high upside
160 yards 7 yds/carry in his last bowl game against USC

What film do you have showing he's a good receiver? Clearly he wasn't good enough and became a RB. All I've seen from him is screens…his running style is yuck to me. Super upright. Not great contact balance. I don't think he has great vision.

Vision! That's the word I was trying to remember when I wrote my last post in here. Lol I don't get a great feeling about his vision when watching his film. I think vision is one of, if not the most, Important skills for a RB.

we will see. I'd love for him to work out, I feel like schrader will be better than him.
May 4, 2024 at 12:05 PM
Not great to hear, but we'll see how things play out on the field.

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/180562-scot-mccloughan-49ers-another/

Who McCloughan wasn't as crazy about: RB Isaac Guerendo

The 49ers drafted running back Isaac Guerendo out of Louisville. The former Cardinal averaged 6.1 yards per carry in 2023 (4.1 yards after contact), and ran a blazing 4.33 in the 40. He scored 11 touchdowns and is a good receiver out of the backfield. Guerendo is a home run threat who can score from anywhere on the field. What's not to like about him?

McCloughan admits he doesn't pay much attention to combine numbers and such, choosing instead to focus on film. And he didn't see much on film from Guerendo that blew him away. The former GM said, "He had a good year. But (he's) nothing special. Unless he can return kicks and play special teams, I'd be surprised if he makes the team."

Wait, did he say he'd be surprised if Guerendo, a fourth-round pick, makes the team? That would certainly align with Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch's history of drafting running backs. The 49ers have drafted three other running backs in the first four rounds since 2017—Joe Williams, Trey Sermon, and Ty Davis-Price. None of the three worked out.

Despite Guerendo's speed, McCloughan still seemed unimpressed when discussing the running back with Barrows. "He did that in a T-shirt and shorts, buddy, a T-shirt and shorts," he said. "I can understand why he went where he went because of how he worked out. But as you're well aware, I don't deal with that (stuff). That's not how I draft at all."
May 4, 2024 at 12:06 PM
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Not a fan of wasting draft picks on Rbs, especially when you have the best In the league on the team.

I'm not a fan of continually missing on taking a RB in the 3 or fourth. I mean we are going on 8 straight years of making horrific offensive third round selections (we've missed on every third rounder except Warner so far).

this guy has great measurable but I question his spacial awareness, patience etc.

the white guy we picked up as an UDFA looks like he may be a steal. Slow 40 but seems to be a much more natural back. We've been great at selecting backs in the UDFA market. I'm not sure why we keep insisting on taking them in the third, especially when we are horrific at it.

Clearly, Kyle's mo at this point since Peters is gone now.
[ Edited by ninerFate on May 4, 2024 at 12:07 PM ]
May 4, 2024 at 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by ninerFate:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Not a fan of wasting draft picks on Rbs, especially when you have the best In the league on the team.

I'm not a fan of continually missing on taking a RB in the 3 or fourth. I mean we are going on 8 straight years of making horrific offensive third round selections (we've missed on every third rounder except Warner so far).

this guy has great measurable but I question his spacial awareness, patience etc.

the white guy we picked up as an UDFA looks like he may be a steal. Slow 40 but seems to be a much more natural back. We've been great at selecting backs in the UDFA market. I'm not sure why we keep insisting on taking them in the third, especially when we are horrific at it.

Clearly, Kyle's mo at this point since Peters is gone now.

The good news is we eventually will hit on one, may be this guy or one the next 20
May 4, 2024 at 11:50 PM
He will move up the depth chart based on pass blocking and pass catching alone. The reason Kyle doesn't put Mason on the field is he doesn't trust him in pass blocking and he is not much of a pass catcher. Kyle wants to run the same offense when CMC is not on the field. When Mason comes in the game you know it's a run play.
May 5, 2024 at 2:43 AM
Originally posted by ninerFate:
Not great to hear, but we'll see how things play out on the field.

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/180562-scot-mccloughan-49ers-another/

Who McCloughan wasn't as crazy about: RB Isaac Guerendo

.... "I'd be surprised if he makes the team."

McCloughan picked Glen Coffee in top of rd 3, so don't trust his eval
He may be drunk again ... ie "I'd be surprised if he makes the team." ...he's guaranteed to make the team
[ Edited by maxsmart on May 5, 2024 at 2:43 AM ]
May 5, 2024 at 4:21 AM
Originally posted by JTB1974:
He will move up the depth chart based on pass blocking and pass catching alone. The reason Kyle doesn't put Mason on the field is he doesn't trust him in pass blocking and he is not much of a pass catcher. Kyle wants to run the same offense when CMC is not on the field. When Mason comes in the game you know it's a run play.

And yet Mason averages 6 yards a carry 🤦‍♂️. If I'm deep in the 4th quarter with a lead I'm gonna use 1 drive to force your team to stop Mason.
May 5, 2024 at 5:14 AM
Originally posted by maxsmart:
Originally posted by ninerFate:
Not great to hear, but we'll see how things play out on the field.

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/180562-scot-mccloughan-49ers-another/

Who McCloughan wasn't as crazy about: RB Isaac Guerendo

.... "I'd be surprised if he makes the team."

McCloughan picked Glen Coffee in top of rd 3, so don't trust his eval
He may be drunk again ... ie "I'd be surprised if he makes the team." ...he's guaranteed to make the team

He also drafted Frank Gore. I think it's a bit much saying he's not gonna make the roster. Maybe he was saying it from an evaluation perspective that he didn't think he would make a final roster, not accounting on when he would get taken.

I do agree that it was a bad pick and I don't see it with this kid at all…then toss in the trade up
[ Edited by NYniner85 on May 5, 2024 at 5:26 AM ]
May 5, 2024 at 5:54 AM
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McCloughan sees this kid as gym muscle. All show no go. He is a big dude maybe if he doesn't work at the HB position he can make a career at the FB position.
He could make a nice career here with SF. I think Juice is the kind of dude that would help.

May 5, 2024 at 6:52 AM
Originally posted by titan:
McCloughan sees this kid as gym muscle. All show no go. He is a big dude maybe if he doesn't work at the HB position he can make a career at the FB position.
He could make a nice career here with SF. I think Juice is the kind of dude that would help.

If the plan is FB that's f**king horrible. Folks gotta realize Juice is one of one as far as playing fullback goes.

once he's done the FB position isn't gonna be what we think it is with him.
May 5, 2024 at 7:48 AM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by titan:
McCloughan sees this kid as gym muscle. All show no go. He is a big dude maybe if he doesn't work at the HB position he can make a career at the FB position.
He could make a nice career here with SF. I think Juice is the kind of dude that would help.

If the plan is FB that's f**king horrible. Folks gotta realize Juice is one of one as far as playing fullback goes.

once he's done the FB position isn't gonna be what we think it is with him.

I am curious as to why you think they can't develop another's player. Juice was a TE in college that converted to FB in the prison. Why couldn't the 49ers do the same or take an actual college fullback? I do think its interesting that they haven't tried (on record) to groom another player, but I'd really like to know why this isn't possible.
May 5, 2024 at 8:09 AM
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by titan:
McCloughan sees this kid as gym muscle. All show no go. He is a big dude maybe if he doesn't work at the HB position he can make a career at the FB position.
He could make a nice career here with SF. I think Juice is the kind of dude that would help.

If the plan is FB that's f**king horrible. Folks gotta realize Juice is one of one as far as playing fullback goes.

once he's done the FB position isn't gonna be what we think it is with him.

I am curious as to why you think they can't develop another's player. Juice was a TE in college that converted to FB in the prison. Why couldn't the 49ers do the same or take an actual college fullback? I do think its interesting that they haven't tried (on record) to groom another player, but I'd really like to know why this isn't possible.

😳
May 5, 2024 at 8:43 AM
Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by titan:
McCloughan sees this kid as gym muscle. All show no go. He is a big dude maybe if he doesn't work at the HB position he can make a career at the FB position.
He could make a nice career here with SF. I think Juice is the kind of dude that would help.

If the plan is FB that's f**king horrible. Folks gotta realize Juice is one of one as far as playing fullback goes.

once he's done the FB position isn't gonna be what we think it is with him.

I am curious as to why you think they can't develop another's player. Juice was a TE in college that converted to FB in the prison. Why couldn't the 49ers do the same or take an actual college fullback? I do think its interesting that they haven't tried (on record) to groom another player, but I'd really like to know why this isn't possible.

😳

Lmaoo!! Prison… Harvard… close enough. Looks like he's been rehabilitated!
May 5, 2024 at 9:50 AM
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by titan:
McCloughan sees this kid as gym muscle. All show no go. He is a big dude maybe if he doesn't work at the HB position he can make a career at the FB position.
He could make a nice career here with SF. I think Juice is the kind of dude that would help.

If the plan is FB that's f**king horrible. Folks gotta realize Juice is one of one as far as playing fullback goes.

once he's done the FB position isn't gonna be what we think it is with him.

I am curious as to why you think they can't develop another's player. Juice was a TE in college that converted to FB in the prison. Why couldn't the 49ers do the same or take an actual college fullback? I do think its interesting that they haven't tried (on record) to groom another player, but I'd really like to know why this isn't possible.

????

Lmaoo!! Prison… Harvard… close enough. Looks like he's been rehabilitated!

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