Isaac Guerendo-RB-Louisville 2024 NFL Draft

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by ninerFate:
Not great to hear, but we'll see how things play out on the field.

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/180562-scot-mccloughan-49ers-another/

Who McCloughan wasn't as crazy about: RB Isaac Guerendo

.... "I'd be surprised if he makes the team."

McCloughan picked Glen Coffee in top of rd 3, so don't trust his eval
He may be drunk again ... ie "I'd be surprised if he makes the team." ...he's guaranteed to make the team

He also drafted Frank Gore. I think it's a bit much saying he's not gonna make the roster. Maybe he was saying it from an evaluation perspective that he didn't think he would make a final roster, not accounting on when he would get taken.

I do agree that it was a bad pick and I don't see it with this kid at all…then toss in the trade up

That's why the play the games. They are bound to hit on one of these RBs at some point lol

Originally posted by Silky:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by titan:
McCloughan sees this kid as gym muscle. All show no go. He is a big dude maybe if he doesn't work at the HB position he can make a career at the FB position.
He could make a nice career here with SF. I think Juice is the kind of dude that would help.

If the plan is FB that's f**king horrible. Folks gotta realize Juice is one of one as far as playing fullback goes.

once he's done the FB position isn't gonna be what we think it is with him.

I am curious as to why you think they can't develop another's player. Juice was a TE in college that converted to FB in the prison. Why couldn't the 49ers do the same or take an actual college fullback? I do think its interesting that they haven't tried (on record) to groom another player, but I'd really like to know why this isn't possible.

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Lmaoo!! Prison… Harvard… close enough. Looks like he's been rehabilitated!

Prison Mike!!

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by ninerFate:
Not great to hear, but we'll see how things play out on the field.

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/180562-scot-mccloughan-49ers-another/

Who McCloughan wasn't as crazy about: RB Isaac Guerendo

.... "I'd be surprised if he makes the team."

McCloughan picked Glen Coffee in top of rd 3, so don't trust his eval
He may be drunk again ... ie "I'd be surprised if he makes the team." ...he's guaranteed to make the team

He also drafted Frank Gore. I think it's a bit much saying he's not gonna make the roster. Maybe he was saying it from an evaluation perspective that he didn't think he would make a final roster, not accounting on when he would get taken.

I do agree that it was a bad pick and I don't see it with this kid at all…then toss in the trade up

That's why the play the games. They are bound to hit on one of these RBs at some point lol

McCloughan is a highly regarded scout, he knows what he is talking about. I just hope the kid can do what he needs to do to prove him wrong but we will see.
Funny thing is Kyle was joking about picking a RB in the third round and then went ahead and drafted a RB in the 4th.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by maxsmart:

Originally posted by ninerFate:
Not great to hear, but we'll see how things play out on the field.

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/180562-scot-mccloughan-49ers-another/

Who McCloughan wasn't as crazy about: RB Isaac Guerendo

.... "I'd be surprised if he makes the team."

McCloughan picked Glen Coffee in top of rd 3, so don't trust his eval
He may be drunk again ... ie "I'd be surprised if he makes the team." ...he's guaranteed to make the team

He also drafted Frank Gore. I think it's a bit much saying he's not gonna make the roster. Maybe he was saying it from an evaluation perspective that he didn't think he would make a final roster, not accounting on when he would get taken.

I do agree that it was a bad pick and I don't see it with this kid at all…then toss in the trade up

That's why the play the games. They are bound to hit on one of these RBs at some point lol

McCloughan is a highly regarded scout, he knows what he is talking about. I just hope the kid can do what he needs to do to prove him wrong but we will see.
Funny thing is Kyle was joking about picking a RB in the third round and then went ahead and drafted a RB in the 4th.

I was under the impression that RBs are one of the easiest positions to evaluate. Considering how well this team has done with WR our misses with *drafted* RBs is baffling, especially with Turner chiming in. Is it pure bad luck or a systematic flaw in the evaluation?

I have no idea how good this guy will be in Kyle's system. I'll wait untilI see him play. That's pretty much how I feel with every player they drafted. When you drat that late you aren't likely to get a sure fire winner. Even the top 15 picks don't always work out. Evaluating young players that are coming from a completely different style of offense and who may not be completely developed physically is always hard. They may have played on a team like OSU that had great talent surrounding them or a team that had average talent. Maybe they layed atough schedule. Maybe it was loaded with cupcakes.

The only thing I know for sure about the draft is half don't make it. Sometimes more. If a team has most of their draft picks starting in year one they were a bad team the previous year.

Originally posted by ninerFate:
I was under the impression that RBs are one of the easiest positions to evaluate. Considering how well this team has done with WR our misses with *drafted* RBs is baffling, especially with Turner chiming in. Is it pure bad luck or a systematic flaw in the evaluation?

Has to be a systematic flaw. The guys they draft like TDP and Trey Sermon were just laughably poor prospects. RB is so devalued that I would rather they spend in FA and just draft other positions. Like why didn't they trade for DeAndre swift?

Originally posted by Willisfn4life:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by titan:
McCloughan sees this kid as gym muscle. All show no go. He is a big dude maybe if he doesn't work at the HB position he can make a career at the FB position.
He could make a nice career here with SF. I think Juice is the kind of dude that would help.

If the plan is FB that's f**king horrible. Folks gotta realize Juice is one of one as far as playing fullback goes.

once he's done the FB position isn't gonna be what we think it is with him.

I am curious as to why you think they can't develop another's player. Juice was a TE in college that converted to FB in the prison. Why couldn't the 49ers do the same or take an actual college fullback? I do think its interesting that they haven't tried (on record) to groom another player, but I'd really like to know why this isn't possible.

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So that was supposed to be league. How that came out as prison....idk lol.

You guys are being too tough on IG. He's a 4th rd lotto ticket with great upside. He grew up as a wide receiver and only switched to RB in college. It takes time to get a good feel for being a running back, it's hard to see the holes and hit the hole quickly. There is a certain RB vision that is innate, but you can also learn it but it takes reps. And he has improved every year, so his trajectory is up. He is faster and bigger (heavier) than Eric Dickerson, but Dickerson had thousands of carries in high school and college, while IG has only had 230 carries in his entire life. He will get better at hitting the hole and being an RB. At the very least he will be a good 3rd down back because he's a very good blocker and a good receiver, and should also be a good kick returner with the new rules.

Originally posted by maxsmart:

6.1 yards per carry
4.3 40
good blocker
good receiver (was A WR, still learning the RB)
Tough
Smart (4.0 student in mechanical engineering)
Improving with high upside
160 yards 7 yds/carry in his last bowl game against USC

Originally posted by maxsmart:
You guys are being too tough on IG. He's a 4th rd lotto ticket with great upside. He grew up as a wide receiver and only switched to RB in college. It takes time to get a good feel for being a running back, it's hard to see the holes and hit the hole quickly. There is a certain RB vision that is innate, but you can also learn it but it takes reps. And he has improved every year, so his trajectory is up. He is faster and bigger (heavier) than Eric Dickerson, but Dickerson had thousands of carries in high school and college, while IG has only had 230 carries in his entire life. He will get better at hitting the hole and being an RB. At the very least he will be a good 3rd down back because he's a very good blocker and a good receiver, and should also be a good kick returner with the new rules.

Originally posted by maxsmart:
6.1 yards per carry
4.3 40
good blocker
good receiver (was A WR, still learning the RB)
Tough
Smart (4.0 student in mechanical engineering)
Improving with high upside
160 yards 7 yds/carry in his last bowl game against USC

Agreed,I'm excited to see him in the preseason, see how he does, same with Pearsall, Puni, & Cowing, of course Green, who I think will be a starter next year on the outside, hope we do extend Mooney & DMo, add in Green, that's a nice trio.

Also f**k Scot McCloughan, idc what he thinks, I trust the 49ers scouts & FO.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by titan:
McCloughan sees this kid as gym muscle. All show no go. He is a big dude maybe if he doesn't work at the HB position he can make a career at the FB position.
He could make a nice career here with SF. I think Juice is the kind of dude that would help.

If the plan is FB that's f**king horrible. Folks gotta realize Juice is one of one as far as playing fullback goes.

once he's done the FB position isn't gonna be what we think it is with him.

I am curious as to why you think they can't develop another's player. Juice was a TE in college that converted to FB in the prison. Why couldn't the 49ers do the same or take an actual college fullback? I do think its interesting that they haven't tried (on record) to groom another player, but I'd really like to know why this isn't possible.

I think it's more of a yearly thing where we have to hate on at least 1 pick over and over.

Like with the FB thing, no, he's not being put in there to either fulfill playing FB 100% of the time or ride pine.

But if the same guy that can run a 4.3 can also play FB and has experience as a WR, you become just that much more multiple. And this offense is PREDICATED on being multiple.

The truth is, we dont now what will become of the guy's career. We'll find out.

Originally posted by maxsmart:
You guys are being too tough on IG. He's a 4th rd lotto ticket with great upside. He grew up as a wide receiver and only switched to RB in college. It takes time to get a good feel for being a running back, it's hard to see the holes and hit the hole quickly. There is a certain RB vision that is innate, but you can also learn it but it takes reps. And he has improved every year, so his trajectory is up. He is faster and bigger (heavier) than Eric Dickerson, but Dickerson had thousands of carries in high school and college, while IG has only had 230 carries in his entire life. He will get better at hitting the hole and being an RB. At the very least he will be a good 3rd down back because he's a very good blocker and a good receiver, and should also be a good kick returner with the new rules.

Originally posted by maxsmart:
6.1 yards per carry
4.3 40
good blocker
good receiver (was A WR, still learning the RB)
Tough
Smart (4.0 student in mechanical engineering)
Improving with high upside
160 yards 7 yds/carry in his last bowl game against USC

Where did the mechanical engineering stuff come from?
I saw majoring in personal finance

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Where did the mechanical engineering stuff come from?
I saw majoring in personal finance

I think you are right
Larry Kruger said mechanical engineering

Why is being smart a good thing for a RB? I think I prefer them dumb as rocks.

This guy is a physical specimen. Hopefully he's not a piece of glass like Mitchell so he can actually take some work off CMC's legs.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
This guy is a physical specimen. Hopefully he's not a piece of glass like Mitchell so he can actually take some work off CMC's legs.

I've often wondered about why some of these guys that have all the physical tools fail in the NFL. The only thing I can see other than poor team fit is they can't handle the competition. In high school and college the biggest and fastest get by on their physical skills. In the NFL everyone is good and physical ability alone won't cut it. That's where the mental part comes in. Some can't handle the fact that they just can't outrun or out jump everyone. They have to think. They have to perfect their skills. They have to endure pain every week. They have to face the fact that they aren't the biggest, baddest guy on the field. Some can't cope with that.