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Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by northoakland510:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
We're just talking man. Currently we have our career backup LT taking all the 1st string reps (who has never been good) and will be forced to pay a 36 yr old Trent whatever he wants. One because he's awesome and two because we never bring in legit competition or have any sort of plan there.

I don't care if Kinsley is gonna be great or not. They at least invested there and know you can't pay everyone massive money when you're paying a QB (among others).

It's frustrating man. Instead of legit investing in one of the most important positions on offensive (OT) they continuously ignore it and instead blow a bunch of picks at freaking RB.

My thoughts also. Not going after the best talent for the o line is getting old. How do you trade with Kansas City and let them take the best tackle on the board?

Kyle believes he can scheme around the crap on the Oline. We shall see this again. Now we can all wait for the trashing by the folks that disagree, and the lack of critical thinking about our team. I do this every off season with the same caca coming back at us.
crap OLs don't make it to Superbowl, let alone 3 NFCCGs in a row.

if there was any critical thinking. you would know the OL wasn't the reason once again we lost.
Big opportunity for Puni to grab that RG position with Burford missing atleast 3 weeks and Felianco missing the last 2 days.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
We've been having this OL argument for years. Kyle is an offensive guy that likes weapons so that's where they put their money. This is another issue tied to the huge contracts some players are asking for. When you pay 5 or 6 guys 20-40 million per year it takes up about 60% of your cap. It doesn't leave much for the other 47 players. O linemen who are usually among the lower paid guys want their money too so they often end up leaving to try out free agency. Then your team is back to square one. No continuity in the line. The O line seems to have way more turnover than it used to.
not that much turnover recently.. but we are not the only team that has turnover at the O Line position.

you need weapons, all the top OLs sat and watched the playoffs/SB

McGlinchey left for more money. He wasn't a great pass blocker (few are any more) but he was a very good run blocker. The let Lakin Tomlinson walk because he wanted more than they were willing to pay. It's not just O linemen. Several players have left for more money elsewhere because the 49ers felt they couldn't afford to pay them. There is no way having 5 or 6 players eating up 60% or ore of the salary cap is good for any team.

The NFL owners have been have discussions about this because they see it getting worse all the time. They're talked about a separate cap for QBs which I've been saying they need for some time. How long will it be before some QB signs for a $100 million per year.
  • Koldo
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

"Oh no…. That's such a bummer….." hahaha I mean I feel for the guy as a man but I think we are better served giving Puni his reps.

Addition by subtraction.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by northoakland510:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
We're just talking man. Currently we have our career backup LT taking all the 1st string reps (who has never been good) and will be forced to pay a 36 yr old Trent whatever he wants. One because he's awesome and two because we never bring in legit competition or have any sort of plan there.

I don't care if Kinsley is gonna be great or not. They at least invested there and know you can't pay everyone massive money when you're paying a QB (among others).

It's frustrating man. Instead of legit investing in one of the most important positions on offensive (OT) they continuously ignore it and instead blow a bunch of picks at freaking RB.

My thoughts also. Not going after the best talent for the o line is getting old. How do you trade with Kansas City and let them take the best tackle on the board?

Kyle believes he can scheme around the crap on the Oline. We shall see this again. Now we can all wait for the trashing by the folks that disagree, and the lack of critical thinking about our team. I do this every off season with the same caca coming back at us.
crap OLs don't make it to Superbowl, let alone 3 NFCCGs in a row.

if there was any critical thinking. you would know the OL wasn't the reason once again we lost.

They made it despite the Oline w TW.
  • Giedi
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Yeah, having Kingsley would have been great. I am comparing the scouting profiles of Kingsley and Dominick, and possibly the ShanaLynch thinking was that Kingsley and Dominick were similar and ShanaLynch were ok with losing out on Kingsley and getting Dominick because (a) they still have Trent Williams (b) right guard was a bigger weakness (c) Dominick could also - possibly - play left tackle should something unforeseen happen to Trent (d) they (more like Chris Foerster) also likes Jalen Moore at left tackle if Trent cant go.

Kingsley vs Puni comparison (just reading from the scouting reports) -- Puni seems a bit faster and more agile than Kingsley, Kingsley is a bit stronger, which helps in the KC gap blocking more. Kyle runs the outside zone more than KC (I think) so a bigger Kingsley is better for KC, and a more agile Puni is better for the 49ers.

One guy is a OT the other is a OG in the NFL

They needed a right guard more than a left tackle, and I wish they would have taken a left tackle too in the draft.
I expect Trent to get his extension prior to Monday's practice. 1st day of pads you want Trent out there.
Where the hell is NC with all this OL is trash news?
Originally posted by tankle104:
LETS GOOO


I SAY go ez on HUFF,... bring him back after week 6..
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by tankle104:
LETS GOOO


I SAY go ez on HUFF,... bring him back after week 6..

I think he will most likely not be starting week 1. I could be wrong but I could see them ease him in. Have him the backup to mustapha and brown. Maybe use him on special teams.

it's good that he can start practicing and get in proper shape, integrate with the guys. If he's good enough to start, great. We just don't know enough yet.
Originally posted by Giedi:
They needed a right guard more than a left tackle, and I wish they would have taken a left tackle too in the draft.

Just invest in OT in general. Colton isn't above competition
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Where the hell is NC with all this OL is trash news?

Originally posted by bassmanr:
Kyle believes he can scheme around the crap on the Oline. We shall see this again. Now we can all wait for the trashing by the folks that disagree, and the lack of critical thinking about our team. I do this every off season with the same caca coming back at us.

Sounds like it's the OL coach more than anything. Prior to Foerster they invest a top 10 pick at OT and spent a s**t ton on a center.
Originally posted by tankle104:

Making Warner and Co look bad, just like his 3rd string rookie year
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